General & Others Is oda hinting there is gonna be different way to bypass HK regen ?

#4
The main thing he's saying is that there will be other ways to defeat them not necessarily counter the regeneration itself

For example, it wouldn't really matter if someone like Aokiji had ACoC or not cause he could just flash freeze them

Regeneration doesn't stop you from being frozen solid because there's nothing to regenerate

The thing this confirms to me is there will likely be unique interactions that make the regeneration negligible. Like Law's Ope Ope fruit (amputation specifically)
 
#6


Giant "there hash to be a way to stop them "
gaban "ha ha yes i agree with that ! "

if coc was the only way then gaban would've them thats the case but since he knows they aint coc users he thinks there is other way to stop them
Could be a possibility and if it's the case then Sanji could be the one who gonna find that. That will be great imo. going for the same CoC route is so outdated but hey Oda loves what's outdated ...
 
#8
Yeah. And I have been saying this from the start.

The Holy Roppo are going to be beaten by... "fodders", as It has always been crystal clear. So, people without CoC, like Usopp or Franky or Belo Betty should be able to beat them.

They are literally the Holy Roppo; they have that use.
 
#9
Yeah. And I have been saying this from the start.

The Holy Roppo are going to be beaten by... "fodders", as It has always been crystal clear. So, people without CoC, like Usopp or Franky or Belo Betty should be able to beat them.

They are literally the Holy Roppo; they have that use.
Idk…sommers might seem like a Fraud but he’s only went against top teirs and he was holding his own a bit against gaban he also completely Low diffed robin and Saul .I also think killingham isn’t a fraud I could be aura scaling but he seems formidable to me.

i think yall need to give killingham some more respect.
 
#10
Yeah. And I have been saying this from the start.

The Holy Roppo are going to be beaten by... "fodders", as It has always been crystal clear. So, people without CoC, like Usopp or Franky or Belo Betty should be able to beat them.

They are literally the Holy Roppo; they have that use.
Gunko beat jimbei easily. They get dominated by top tiers sure but that does not make them weak. They are all high commander level.
 
#12
Idk…sommers might seem like a Fraud but he’s only went against top teirs and he was holding his own a bit against gaban he also completely Low diffed robin and Saul .I also think killingham isn’t a fraud I could be aura scaling but he seems formidable to me.

i think yall need to give killingham some more respect.
Gunko beat jimbei easily. They get dominated by top tiers sure but that does not make them weak. They are all high commander level.
HK were hyped to be Rev's adversary in the manga first thing.

Not to mention, It's clear that those twelve are going to be used as adversaries for the "third tiers" enemies. The strongest (Zoro, Sanji, Sabo and co) are going against the Gorosei + Shamrock and the rest of the mugi against the HK.

That's their role.
Just as the Tobi Roppo did. It's the same for every enemey.

Imu/Kaido--> Luffy

Gorosei/Calamities --> strongest subordinates + allies (Zoro, Sanji, Sabo, etc.)

HK/Tobi Roppo --> other Mugi + Rev's

* Jinbe was only taken by surprise by Gunko's ability. In the long run, my money would be on him hundred times.
 
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#13
HK were hyped to be Rev's adversary in the manga first thing.

Not to mention, It's clear that those twelve are going to be used as adversaries for the "third tiers" enemies. The strongest (Zoro, Sanji, Sabo and co) are going against the Gorosei + Shamrock and the rest of the mugi against the HK.

That's their role.
Just as the Tobi Roppo did. It's the same for every enemey.

Imu/Kaido--> Luffy

Gorosei/Calamities --> strongest subordinates + allies (Zoro, Sanji, Sabo, etc.)

HK/Tobi Roppo --> other Mugi + Rev's

* Jinbe was only taken by surpruse by Gunko's ability. In the long run, my money would be on him hundred times.
I think you’re forgeting that killingham easily summoned hundred of Monsters that are easily dwarfing elbaf mountains,keep in mind this isn’t even the full capability of his devil fruit because the kids are limiting the power and potential of the dream demons.Killingham can also keep summoning them indefinitely.Imagine hundreds of monsters that are easily mountain sized or bigger that can keep getting bigger and stronger.Not only that sommers thorns on the children hasn’t been severed yet something Gaban wasn’t able to stop.add in Gunko and they’re easily destroying a yonko fleet.

keep in mind this is only three holy knights this isn’t even half of their group.Its a reasonable thing dragon was concerned about his team going against them as only he and maybe sabo have coc.The holy knights really are no joke.1on 1 yes any top teir is beating a typical holy knight like sommers.And no excuse for jinbe getting low diffed like that imagine if that was zoro or sanji in that situation they would get slandered endlessly.
 
#14
HK were hyped to be Rev's adversary in the manga first thing.

Not to mention, It's clear that those twelve are going to be used as adversaries for the "third tiers" enemies. The strongest (Zoro, Sanji, Sabo and co) are going against the Gorosei + Shamrock and the rest of the mugi against the HK.

That's their role.
Just as the Tobi Roppo did. It's the same for every enemey.

Imu/Kaido--> Luffy

Gorosei/Calamities --> strongest subordinates + allies (Zoro, Sanji, Sabo, etc.)

HK/Tobi Roppo --> other Mugi + Rev's

* Jinbe was only taken by surprise by Gunko's ability. In the long run, my money would be on him hundred times.
I am not denying most of your takes but gunko > jimbei was shown blatantly. Gunko negged SHs in an instant minus the monster trio. Eos SHs will get stronger but Hks are easily high commander level at least stronger than YC2s.
 
#15
I am not denying most of your takes but gunko > jimbei was shown blatantly. Gunko negged SHs in an instant minus the monster trio. Eos SHs will get stronger but Hks are easily high commander level at least stronger than YC2s.
I'm not against them being YC level, in fact I think Sommers is, but that's it: they are EoS "weaker" mugis and Rev's commanders adversaries.

About Jinbe-Gunko, imho the scene made clear It was Gunko's Power that took Jinbe by surprise. Just as, idk, Mr. 3 did.
 
#16
I'm not against them being YC level, in fact I think Sommers is, but that's it: they are EoS "weaker" mugis and Rev's commanders adversaries.

About Jinbe-Gunko, imho the scene made clear It was Gunko's Power that took Jinbe by surprise. Just as, idk, Mr. 3 did.
Oh cmon don’t excuse Jinbe for that lol
Atleast dorry and broggy have an excuse they fought for 100 years straight.
 
#17
Oh cmon don’t excuse Jinbe for that lol
Atleast dorry and broggy have an excuse they fought for 100 years straight.
Jinbe has held his own even against top tiers for some time (barely, but still). I doubt Gunko could have done that to him if he hadn't been surprised by her powers tbh.

We'll see. Well, not against her but against the other HKs.
 
#18
I'm not against them being YC level, in fact I think Sommers is, but that's it: they are EoS "weaker" mugis and Rev's commanders adversaries.

About Jinbe-Gunko, imho the scene made clear It was Gunko's Power that took Jinbe by surprise. Just as, idk, Mr. 3 did.
It was a direct fight though and not sneak attack. Gunko was faster than even old gaban iirc.
 
#19
It is so stupid to have Conqueror's Haki alone be the weakness.

All this regeneration stuff should be counted by attacking the Seal when it's not in use. Or that unlike a Logia, their regeneration is tied to stamina and will tire out eventually, and it's just Conqueror's Haki speeds it up.
 
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