Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1173: A generation of warriors

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kumae

kumae

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Cozy Sofa said:
Still holds true tough. Clear lance just propells him in a straight line. For all we know he will land on the ground next. His mobility is mediocre even within the strawhats, either 5th or 6th depending on if you rate Robins flying or Zoros explosive speed more.

Luffy
Sanji
Brook
Chopper
Robin/Zoro
Zoro/Robin
Usopp
Nami
Jinbei
Franky
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I love Brooks fighting style. So fast, skilled and eye pleasing. Only issue is his offensive output is dog crap.

Brook = Vega from Street Fighter
Zoro = Sagat from Street Fighter
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Cozy Sofa said:
Sure. There are like 5 tiers within the SHP and mobility is one thing no one should argue is one of Zoros strengths, in fact, I've written it so many times that his relative lack of mobility + his rather normal human body are two of his main weaknesses. Not bad, just mediocre next to monsters.

Tier 1 - Total Freedom
Luffy

Tier 2 - Yonko level mobility
Sanji
Brook

Tier 3 - Good/Decent mobility
Chopper
Robin/Zoro
Zoro/Robin

Tier 4 - Great for normal humans
Usopp
Nami

Tier 5 - Slow, bulky guys
Jinbei
Franky
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You overthinking this too much deal with zoro is that he is an op swordsman and op swordsman excluding King and kaku doesn't have some boost to fly don't know why but lolda I guess
However I wouldn't say that zoro lacking mobility issues has shown many times to keep up with flying opponents with his own abilities not to mention in what we referring to combat or short distances he is super fast even can go faster than Brook or cavendish or dudes who has soru
Only problem with zoro is that he lacks a boost flying power up,that's it
 
Moewu

Moewu

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OykotsTreasure said:
On the cover page...Usopp...what are you doing? Covering his nose in honey to attract a (most likely gigantic) rhinoceros beetle. He's just ASKING for comic hijinks to get set off! Although...Chopper might get to it first? Well, this is one way to get a nose job, I guess. I do like the Winnie the Pooh style honeypot, though.

Giants versus the Demon Army! Heaven or Hell...Let's ROCK!

And it turns out Zoro's plan was...just to jump good. Okay, I'll admit, I MASSIVELY overthought what he'd end up doing. Also, Dorry and Brogy do end up cutting each other, so the people who predicted Zoro would set those two against each other probably deserve half-credit. My read on this situation is that there's still some of the old Dorry and Brogy left in there. So, they chose to cut each other down with their own wills than obey Imu's commands, anymore.

I guess Brook didn't just get up and leave. Looks like he's literally been trying to crawl on his belly over to Gunko. Or should I say...Princess Shuri? (Has Oda been watching the Black Panther movies, lately?) She's looking pretty good for a 80 year old! Apparently, Shuri had a "connection to the Holy Land". That's interesting wording. Brook doesn't say she's a Celestial Dragon. But, she has a connection to the land of Mariejois itself. Kind of similar to the Lunarians? And...uh...Brook's mad at her for killing her father the King. That's a twist! I'll admit, I didn't see that coming. I'm guessing Imu's the one who had Gunko/Shuri do that, possibly as the first act under her contract.

Gunko/Shuri's memories returning are enough to partially break Imu's hold on her. Imu actually seems a little "jealous" of Brook. Or protective of her, it's hard to tell. Imu still seems to be the one in control, mostly. But, maybe not for much longer.

But, the Strawhats mostly managed to all get free! And Sanji's here to help them out! With only Robin stuck in the thorns, you would think that'd set up a fight between Sommers and Sanji to free her. But, umm...we'll see, I guess, given the end of the chapter.

Meanwhile, Sommers is mocking children. He's REALLY earning that bad karma that's going to end up biting him later on, huh? Colon's actually trying to stand up to him. Which is pretty brave, but kind of foolish.

Huh. The Giants fighting Nightmare-Nika is...curious. Oda's probably foreshadowing something here, but I'm not sure what. Maybe Nika really WAS the bad guy, back in the First World?

"Three Generals...Gokoku Sovereignty!" Oooh...nice "upgrade" on the classic move. From the new generation of Giants, to boot! Also, this COULD be a indication that the other 3 Skypiean Gods teamed up to defeat Nika, I guess. We'll see.

And Nightmare-Nika crashes into the boat meant to steal the kids away, after Sommers bops him away. Well...Imu's plan is instantly ruined. Sommers is getting fired...maybe literally. Unless they steal a different boat. I guess the Sunny IS still right around here. Hmm..could the God's Knights end up "kidnapping" the Thousand Sunny?
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Memory-altering devil fruits seem very useful against Imu. Now I wonder what Blackbeard has planned with Pudding. He always plans ahead; zehaha.

Princess Shuri's connection to the Holy Land is very intriguing. I mean it could just be something simple, but there are a few things that came to mind. There is this National Treasure which doflamingo mentioned many years ago. Could she have any connection to that ?



But, I am still wondering why he had to have Law's Devil Fruit for that ? Well, of course, there is the eternal youth operation and I have kept wondering for years, what would you gain from an "eternal life" when you can still get killed by superior opponents ?

Imagine just hiding somewhere until all your enemies die of old age...nah, I am just kidding.


:Toriyamatroll:


Maybe he just needed the room ability to bypass things in his way ?



The other thing was the giant straw hat that we saw. She is afraid of Sungod Nika. Maybe there could be something. But yeah, it's just speculating. (Which is also fun)

:hope:
 
Cozy Sofa

Cozy Sofa

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kumae said:
You overthinking this too much deal with zoro is that he is an op swordsman and op swordsman excluding King and kaku doesn't have some boost to fly don't know why but lolda I guess
However I wouldn't say that zoro lacking mobility issues has shown many times to keep up with flying opponents with his own abilities not to mention in what we referring to combat or short distances he is super fast even can go faster than Brook or cavendish or dudes who has soru
Only problem with zoro is that he lacks a boost flying power up,that's it
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I'm not downplaying Zoro, far from it, just stating the obvious. Will be interesting to see Shanks, Mihawk, Shamrock, Garling, Shiryu and who else is still out there of the worlds strongest swordsmen.

Law and Fujitora ofc have their DFs for mobility.
 
kumae

kumae

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#248
Cozy Sofa said:
I'm not downplaying Zoro, far from it, just stating the obvious. Will be interesting to see Shanks, Mihawk, Shamrock, Garling, Shiryu and who else is still out there of the worlds strongest swordsmen.

Law and Fujitora ofc have their DFs for mobility.
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I get you but your making it like zoro lacks of mobility is in general when is only on the flying specific area and yes I forgot about law of fujitora because of their DF the other swordsmen you mention can do high jumps not flying just like zoro but back to the topic with zoro to be fair with him Idk what flying ability will suit for him because geppo for his robust body doesn't fit him the only thing I see is that lilith give him those boots
 
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OykotsTreasure

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Moewu said:
Memory-altering devil fruits seem very useful against Imu. Now I wonder what Blackbeard has planned with Pudding. He always plans ahead; zehaha.

Princess Shuri's connection to the Holy Land is very intriguing. I mean it could just be something simple, but there are a few things that came to mind. There is this National Treasure which doflamingo mentioned many years ago. Could she have any connection to that ?



But, I am still wondering why he had to have Law's Devil Fruit for that ? Well, of course, there is the eternal youth operation and I have kept wondering for years, what would you gain from an "eternal life" when you can still get killed by superior opponents ?

Imagine just hiding somewhere until all your enemies die of old age...nah, I am just kidding.


:Toriyamatroll:


Maybe he just needed the room ability to bypass things in his way ?



The other thing was the giant straw hat that we saw. She is afraid of Sungod Nika. Maybe there could be something. But yeah, it's just speculating. (Which is also fun)

:hope:
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I think the common consensus is that the National Treasure of Mariejois is actually Imu themselves. So, Doflamingo's plan would have been to use Law's Op-Op Fruit in order to swap his mind into Imu's body so that he could rule the World.



But, yeah, part of me still wonders if it could have something to do with the Giant Strawhat. Part of me even wonders if that entire frozen room could be part of Joyboy's body, or someone else important like Davy Jones.

If someone important in the past was a Ancient Giant they would be pretty large. And if you combined the Love-Love Fruit's ability to petrify people, with the Op-Op Fruit's ability to cut anything, then you could petrify a Ancient Giant and cut them into hundreds of little cubes and get rid of them that way. Turning their entire body into bricks. All of Mariejois being built upon the grave of Imu's ancient enemy. Thus, explaining why that room is kept frozen like Oar's "prison" on Thriller Bark, if all it has in it is a Giant Strawhat. Which...does not usually need to be kept refrigerated. It makes the straw all soggy!

So, if that was the case, Doflamingo would have needed the Op-Op Fruit to reassemble this super powerful Ancient Giant body back together again so that he could put his mind inside it to make himself more powerful.

Part of me even wonders if you could say the Poneglyphs are other parts of this Ancient Giant body that Lili managed to steal away and hide around the world.

This could even tie into Blackbeard's plan, since he was pretty curious about other Love-Love Fruit Users being able to de-petrify people, for some reason, back when he attacked Boa Hancok. So, Blackbeard may have had a similar plan to Doflamingo, in this scenario.



But, that's all pretty unlikely. The Imu thing is probably more likely what Doflamingo's plan was. My theory was maybe too complicated. But, we'll see. It's not technically impossible yet. But, it's probably a dead theory, and I will mourn it's passing. The Giant Strawhat, at least, is likely pretty important, even though it's only ever showed up once. But, at this point, I'm leaning towards the Giant Strawhat being a very special type of Haki Knot. What is a strawhat, but a VERY complicated series of knots?
 
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Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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qwer8888 said:


The shields are the same, it's Oda's way of showing how much stronger they've become. The power of their attack has grown enormously, which is what Zoro is surprised about in the chapter :doakes_suss:
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I think it’s also odas way of showing us “these two don’t fight with their lives on the line anymore” and kinda goes along with Usopps and Jaruls take that they fight with no pride anymore.
 
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