Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

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Sanji can´t hurt Sommers, drop the agenda.
There must be a way for non conquerors and weak characters to stall or down Regen merchants.

Loki used his Df against Harald to damage him first and slowed his Regen making Harald to come to his senses so that he could hold back for Loki's final atttack and previous chapter gyaban didn't counter Goldberg suggestions of (eating, crushing, traping them) the Regen merchants to down them. Gyaban could have said you can't put them down with those means.
I think Sanji will get another Germa science thing or vegapunk science thing that will work against the Regen merchants.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
It was explained in the manga why they lied about those.
No it wasn’t LOL

We were lied to about those things because everything we were told about Loki was wrong. That’s the whole point of his character, people believe incorrect information about him.

Imagine still defending the idea that Lhanks could beat Loki when everything else we were told about Loki was wrong and Saint Shanks got humiliatingly trashed by Loki’s weaker father
 
No it wasn’t LOL

We were lied to about those things because everything we were told about Loki was wrong. That’s the whole point of his character, people believe incorrect information about him.

Imagine still defending the idea that Lhanks could beat Loki when everything else we were told about Loki was wrong and Saint Shanks got humiliatingly trashed by Loki’s weaker father
It was explained in the flashback that Estrid is the reason why the giants blamed everything on Loki, and it was explained that Loki, Jarul, Gaban, and Shanks agreed to keep quiet about the truth of what happened to Harald to protect Harald’s image
 
There must be a way for non conquerors and weak characters to stall or down Regen merchants.

Loki used his Df against Harald to damage him first and slowed his Regen making Harald to come to his senses so that he could hold back for Loki's final atttack and previous chapter gyaban didn't counter Goldberg suggestions of (eating, crushing, traping them) the Regen merchants to down them. Gyaban could have said you can't put them down with those means.
I think Sanji will get another Germa science thing or vegapunk science thing that will work against the Regen merchants.
Sanji has no answer to Swordsman like Sommers, he gets low diffed.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
It was explained in the flashback that Estrid is the reason why the giants blamed everything on Loki, and it was explained that Loki, Jarul, Gaban, and Shanks agreed to keep quiet about the truth of what happened to Harald to protect Harald’s image
And when we get the reason as to why you’re a moron for believing Saint Shanks could beat Loki, you’ll be coping and searching about that too. Lol
 
It was explained in the flashback that Estrid is the reason why the giants blamed everything on Loki, and it was explained that Loki, Jarul, Gaban, and Shanks agreed to keep quiet about the truth of what happened to Harald to protect Harald’s image
Well, what´s your argument? Did we have any reason to think any of those things were false before we saw them actually happen in a flashback? Same thing applies here, we only saw the first half of Loki´s life, we´ll likely see the rest at the end of the arc, and the pattern could continue, that what we heard was a twist of the truth.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Give me one good reason why they would lie about Shanks beating Loki solo if the entire RHPs jumped him lol, or why Loki would chain himself up in seastone cuffs for 6 years
First of all who even witnessed Saint Shanks beating Loki? No one

Second of all when was it even ever said that Saint Shanks beat Loki 1v1? Never, Saint Shanks couldn’t even off guard Loki’s weaker father who was distracted by giants.

You are an idiot for extrapolating ideas that are clearly complete bullshit when we were never told anything even close to what you are suggesting. Lol
 
Whether you love or hate him you gotta admit it's so funny to see people going through mass psychosis over Loki's powerlevel.
They all know it's only upscale Zoro and Mihawk so they hate it that Loki is that strong and even some shanks fans are trying to disagree that shanks beat Loki fair and square. They trying to push shanks talk no jitsu Loki into bdsm chained up for 6 years.
 
First of all who even witnessed Saint Shanks beating Loki? No one

Second of all when was it even ever said that Saint Shanks beat Loki 1v1? Never, Saint Shanks couldn’t even off guard Loki’s weaker father who was distracted by giants.

You are an idiot for extrapolating ideas that are clearly complete bullshit when we were never told anything even close to what you are suggesting. Lol
Lee's been working his way out of the top 10 worst powerscalers on here lately. Good stuff
 
Well, what´s your argument? Did we have any reason to think any of those things were false before we saw them actually happen in a flashback? Same thing applies here, we only saw the first half of Loki´s life, we´ll likely see the rest at the end of the arc, and the pattern could continue, that what we heard was a twist of the truth.
The point of them lying about Loki murdering Harald and harassing Elbaf was because Oda wanted to mislead the readers into believing Loki was a bad person so that they would be surprised when the truth came out (even though everyone and their mom guessed that Loki would actually be good). What would be accomplished by lying about Shanks beating Loki solo? Why would be a valid in-verse or out of verse reason for Oda and the characters to cover up the RHPs jumping Loki or poisoning him or whatever?
 
First of all who even witnessed Saint Shanks beating Loki? No one

Second of all when was it even ever said that Saint Shanks beat Loki 1v1? Never, Saint Shanks couldn’t even off guard Loki’s weaker father who was distracted by giants.

You are an idiot for extrapolating ideas that are clearly complete bullshit when we were never told anything even close to what you are suggesting. Lol
Loki witnessed Saint Shanks beating Loki, and Loki never implied that Shanks cheated or got help. It would also be very out of character for Shanks to just lie about beating Loki fairly
 
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