Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1174: THE STRONGEST BEING IN THIS WORLD

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Look at this dweeb below 😂
I dweeb for saying you don't understand what the panel suppose to show lmao .
The panel is suppose to show the effect of gear 5 and chaos it causing on the island.
The issues is not Oda art the issues is Oda don't want to spend panel and page space on stuff that he should .
The issues with OP for years now is Oda trying to put to much into a chapter which fuck up how his art and panelling looks.
No amount of people helping him or AI going change shit when this is how want to use his page and panel space .

It fucking sucks but that has what OP has been for well over decade now .
Oda panelling get so bad you could not even tell what happen with Zoro chapters ago because he trying put to much in the page.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
I dweeb for saying you don't understand what the panel suppose to show lmao .
The panel is suppose to show the effect of gear 5 and chaos it causing on the island.
The issues is not Oda art the issues is Oda don't want to spend panel and page space on stuff that he should .
The issues with OP for years now is Oda trying to put to much into a chapter which fuck up how his art and panelling looks.
No amount of people helping him or AI going change shit when this is how want to use his page and panel space .

It fucking sucks but that has what OP has been for well over decade now .
You're just explaining the reasoning, I'm talking about the symptoms. You're saying his art sucks ass because so and so reason.

The panel is supposed to show wide scale environmental effects....idk what you're even yapping about when it comes to it showing anything else.
 
Blud drew a cow with wings, painted it black, and thought we wouldn't notice. He got too comfortable drawing Killingham's monsters and gave Loki the same treatment.

Look at this panel:


You can feel how devastating it is, and the sheer scale of the destruction.

What the actual mickey mouse shit is this?

Are we fucking serious right now?

Oda is beyond washed at every facet of making a manga, it's official. There isn't a single thing he does that is passable...we're cooked.
I’m just glad we can all agree that Saint Killingham and Saint Sommers have the best designs in Elbaf @soupongo
 
Obviously im just waffling but it was quite sincere
I have a friend that working in that field and he already showed me stuff where you draw naruto characters in kubos artstyle and stuff like that and its quite convincing like I couldn't tell it's ai, but you need to do know what you doing thats why alot of the ai slop art is bad cause it for mass consumers and tech illiterate people.

That stuff is already kinda in Hollywood movies disney keeps 3d printing and ai voice synthesing old dead actors cause they obviously have way more SOTA tech and budget kinda spooky too
Yeah digital art stuff is kinda inescapable, wish we got flying cars and moonbases first but what can you do lol.

I do traditional (kind of stopped for a while due to time constraint/laziness) pen and pencil stuff so tbh I'm not as affected as professional artists fortunately.

Hope your friend is doing fine in his field with all the AI, I'm in customer support and the top banana of our company is pretty keen on the stuff so I gotta beef up on it too.
 
We'll definitely get Sommers past.
Sommers is probably jealous of the giant children. Sommers probably didn't have loving parents.
Celestial Dragons are selfish and only care about themselves. Celestial Dragons would never sacrifice themselves for their children.

Garling won't save/help Shamrock if he's in danger.
 
What happened to Oda? How was he able to create pre timeskip One Piece? Because most of what you're saying he already had that preskip. I'm starting to doubt he ever did that.

I get he's older and it's a lack of effort + he still cashes out.
preTS also suffered from bloat but at least back then Oda was not trying to gaslight the reader that fodder were strong so they were either dealt in 1 chapter by being punching bags like Zoro vs boroque works. Arcs lasted like 60 chapters tops.

but current Oda is trying to gaslight readers that FODDERS are massive threat to such great lengths that fodder are a focus of the arc or even SAGAS:
-whole postTS saga has been trying hype up fukcing 500 gifters fodders as a massive threat that would allow kaido to conquer the world...like LMAO
-whole cake is impossible to escape because fodder surrounding it
-Elabf is currently being attacked by dream monsters and oda is trying to claim these shits are strong instead of being 1 shot material

I have no idea why this fuckass hack is stretching the manga by bloating it with irrelevent fodder and trying his hardest to die by not finishing the series.

I think it started back in marineford where the sales were at its highest, it gave him the illusion that he did everything right and he's now trying to bloat every arc with fodder to create illusion of war and tension
but the retard failed to understand that people read that arc not because of whitebeard's commander #3548 that can take out hammer out of his chin, but because strong characters are finally being shown fighting and doing shit.
 
preTS also suffered from bloat but at least back then Oda was not trying to gaslight the reader that fodder were strong so they were either dealt in 1 chapter by being punching bags like Zoro vs boroque works. Arcs lasted like 60 chapters tops.

but current Oda is trying to gaslight readers that FODDERS are massive threat to such great lengths that fodder are a focus of the arc or even SAGAS:
-whole postTS saga has been trying hype up fukcing 500 gifters fodders as a massive threat that would allow kaido to conquer the world...like LMAO
-whole cake is impossible to escape because fodder surrounding it
-Elabf is currently being attacked by dream monsters and oda is trying to claim these shits are strong instead of being 1 shot material

I have no idea why this fuckass hack is stretching the manga by bloating it with irrelevent fodder and trying his hardest to die by not finishing the series.

I think it started back in marineford where the sales were at its highest, it gave him the illusion that he did everything right and he's now trying to bloat every arc with fodder to create illusion of war and tension
but the retard failed to understand that people read that arc not because of whitebeard's commander #3548 that can take out hammer out of his chin, but because strong characters are finally being shown fighting and doing shit.
That's not an One Piece specific issue lol
 
Yeah digital art stuff is kinda inescapable, wish we got flying cars and moonbases first but what can you do lol.

I do traditional (kind of stopped for a while due to time constraint/laziness) pen and pencil stuff so tbh I'm not as affected as professional artists fortunately.

Hope your friend is doing fine in his field with all the AI, I'm in customer support and the top banana of our company is pretty keen on the stuff so I gotta beef up on it too.
Wish you the best
Yeah Im basically forced to deal with that stuff on my job as a district railway manager. The higher ups that have no clue want ai every way and full automation but that shit is impossible in such a field. The reason why stuff like coding, art and so on are the most under pressure is because ai Most common problems, like hallucinating or producing slop and stuff doesn't matter that much you can try it again in a controlled environment or if some doctor automated there appointment through a hotline with AI someone who's voice not getting recognized is at worst a lost customer

Any field with actual risks is I think basically unsolvable in the near future because of legal alone. "Oh yeah the AI hallucinated and collided two trains btw." I don't even know what the fuck would happen there especially in the EU probably mass ban of ai in that field lmao
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
preTS also suffered from bloat but at least back then Oda was not trying to gaslight the reader that fodder were strong so they were either dealt in 1 chapter by being punching bags like Zoro vs boroque works. Arcs lasted like 60 chapters tops.

but current Oda is trying to gaslight readers that FODDERS are massive threat to such great lengths that fodder are a focus of the arc or even SAGAS:
-whole postTS saga has been trying hype up fukcing 500 gifters fodders as a massive threat that would allow kaido to conquer the world...like LMAO
-whole cake is impossible to escape because fodder surrounding it
-Elabf is currently being attacked by dream monsters and oda is trying to claim these shits are strong instead of being 1 shot material

I have no idea why this fuckass hack is stretching the manga by bloating it with irrelevent fodder and trying his hardest to die by not finishing the series.

I think it started back in marineford where the sales were at its highest, it gave him the illusion that he did everything right and he's now trying to bloat every arc with fodder to create illusion of war and tension
but the retard failed to understand that people read that arc not because of whitebeard's commander #3548 that can take out hammer out of his chin, but because strong characters are finally being shown fighting and doing shit.
But even the art fell off a massive cliff. Pacing is objectively worse, which means bloat is objectively worse. The least he could do is atleast draw one good highlight panel in 20 chapters...he can't even give his readers that much.
 
preTS also suffered from bloat but at least back then Oda was not trying to gaslight the reader that fodder were strong so they were either dealt in 1 chapter by being punching bags like Zoro vs boroque works. Arcs lasted like 60 chapters tops.

but current Oda is trying to gaslight readers that FODDERS are massive threat to such great lengths that fodder are a focus of the arc or even SAGAS:
-whole postTS saga has been trying hype up fukcing 500 gifters fodders as a massive threat that would allow kaido to conquer the world...like LMAO
-whole cake is impossible to escape because fodder surrounding it
-Elabf is currently being attacked by dream monsters and oda is trying to claim these shits are strong instead of being 1 shot material

I have no idea why this fuckass hack is stretching the manga by bloating it with irrelevent fodder and trying his hardest to die by not finishing the series.

I think it started back in marineford where the sales were at its highest, it gave him the illusion that he did everything right and he's now trying to bloat every arc with fodder to create illusion of war and tension
but the retard failed to understand that people read that arc not because of whitebeard's commander #3548 that can take out hammer out of his chin, but because strong characters are finally being shown fighting and doing shit.
The whole concept of the new world crew revolves around numbers. It only took 2/500 Gifters to take down Sanji so yes, kaido's crew had what it took to beat any one group
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
I dont know its no top tier dragon design but i dont get why people malding so hard i seen way worse
Nah this is the lowest point for One Piece art.

It's not just the design.

You have to learn how to differentiate between routine scribble panels and impactful panels. This isn't just some run of the mill moment. This is a once a year type of moment, Oda usually still managed to muster something up even if it was lower than preskip standards. This was a new low for sure, the panel leading up to the design reveal is very telling. With the island shaking, lightning and snow.

Oda has nothing left, this is the only thing I would say Current Oda still had which was above average. He knew how to drop the reveal panels, but yea that's gone too now it seems.
 
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