Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1174: THE STRONGEST BEING IN THIS WORLD

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Well I also said it’s Loda logic law luffy and a volcano all on wano happened and nobody felt it.

I didn’t say the fight I said BG :whitepress:
Has there ever been example of an OP fight that was felt thousands of miles away or something, but not 5kms away lol? If not. you can´t just say it´s a normal logical inconsistency, it just didn´t happen in the manga lmao.
 
It can't be stressed enough that the state and "maintenance" of this forum is doghsit, WG actually needs to be put down. It's so turbofucked in the ass that I regularly spend an order of magnitude more time to successfully do a simple fucking thing here.
we need a bet thread on how long until WG self deletes forever.
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Has there ever been example of an OP fight that was felt thousands of miles away or something, but not 5kms away lol? If not. you can´t just say it´s a normal logical inconsistency, it just didn´t happen in the manga lmao.
I said Bajrang gun in road to laughtale states that it was felt miles away not the fight between kaido and luffy. You acting like i made the shit up. An underwater volcano exploding should cover all of wano with clouds and ash and yet nothing. Again oda logic

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The moments of the parental figures falling alongside the children were very touching. I especially liked Road and Bjorn's moment. Whoever made the connection about the Walrus School students resembling the Straw Hats as kids was spot on. I can see it.

That's the second time Killingham has taken issue with Sommers. They're going to start bickering soon, like Zoro-Sanji-coded opponents do.
 
Yeah, Loki went into a castle with an evil Harald rampaging and trying to kill everyone, until his luck kicked in and ¨Somehow, Harald returned¨

So harald not allow loki to attack him without any defence \counter to kill him ?
It's not like i saying loki luck into this .
Loki did damage and bring him back to his sense but he was already healing back and he was losing his mine again.
Which is why he told him to kill him now without defending or countering .
Those are the facts of the manga.
 
So harald not allow loki to attack him without any defence \counter to kill him ?
It´s irrelevant about how he killed Harald, what´s relevant is the fact that he overpowered Harald into regaining his senses, allowing him to be vulnerable again, which Gaban and Shanks specifically were unable to do, and were genuinely shocked that Loki was able to do, its presented that Loki did an amazing feat.
Loki did damage and bring him back to his sense but he was already healing back and he was losing his mine again.
Which is why he told him to kill him now without defending or countering .
Those are the facts of the manga.
It´s literally irrelevant, if Loki could overpower him once, he could do it again, that was the entire point of him getting the fruit and everything. Like it or not, Loki proved superiority to Harald, while Luffy never proved superiority to Kaido.
 
He perma killed him because harald decide to do nothing and take the hit the man was already healing from the damage.
Are you seriously saying luffy only beat kaido cause he take the hit head on to downplay luffy when kaido was attacking \trying counter back .
Then at the same time hype up loki beating someone who decide to take on a full attack with no defence or even trying to counter .
Let luffy get a free Bajrang Gun hit on any character that not even defending or attacking back and they most likley die lol.
No. Regen comes from imu and not harald. Harald blocking it or not means nothing.

Kaido literally says he will take BG head on. That slow attack is not landing on Kaido if he chose to dodge it. Loki is 3x PK level. Luffy is low yonko level. There is massive power gap between them for now.
 
It´s irrelevant about how he killed Harald, what´s relevant is the fact that he overpowered Harald into regaining his senses, allowing him to be vulnerable again, which Gaban and Shanks specifically were unable to do, and were genuinely shocked that Loki was able to do, its presented that Loki did an amazing feat.

It´s literally irrelevant, if Loki could overpower him once, he could do it again, that was the entire point of him getting the fruit and everything. Like it or not, Loki proved superiority to Harald, while Luffy never proved superiority to Kaido.
It not irrelevant at all.
Because how you wins matter .
If shanks told luffy to hit him with BG without doing anything you think people would say luffy win that fight .
Don't people keep on saying luffy hand help vs kaido.
When the last round was just luffy vs him and he won in G5.

EDIT okay fuck this WG trash trying post on here right now.
 
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It not irrelevant at all.
Because how you wins matter .
Loki already won, with the wincoin being for him that he could return Harald to his senses. It´s what Gaban failed to do, and believed that much of the world would struggle with.

The idea of turning Harald back to his senses was hopeless to him. Do you not understand the specific context here of why Harald let himself be killed, or do you believe it´s because he was stronger then Loki? If not, the fixation of Harald letting himself be killed is just copium.
Don't people keep on saying luffy hand help vs kaido.
When the last round was just luffy vs him and he won in G5.
He did have some help against Kaido yeah. Yamato pointed out he was already getting exhausted, current Luffy is still a bit weaker IMO.
 
Loki already won, with the wincoin being for him that he could return Harald to his senses. It´s what Gaban failed to do, and believed that much of the world would struggle with.

The idea of turning Harald back to his senses was hopeless to him. Do you not understand the specific context here of why Harald let himself be killed, or do you believe it´s because he was stronger then Loki? If not, the fixation of Harald letting himself be killed is just copium.

He did have some help against Kaido yeah. Yamato pointed out he was already getting exhausted, current Luffy is still a bit weaker IMO.
I don't believe it's because harald stronger than loki but i do believe the context is that if loki did not kill him then .
That harald would regen and his mind being taken over again .
With maybe this time they be unable to get him back to his sense and the fight would have become a stamina match up.
Which is why he allow loki the free hit to kill him right away .
If you want to say loki won because he get harald to get back to his senses to get the free hit .
Well i can see that point of view and i think that it is fair way to look at it .

did Goda give a reason why they couldn't just dig a hole in front of children from which they wouldn't come out of?
If you a dig hole they will all still move forward and then would get hit by there own spike while just walking into wall of the hole.
The issue is the still walk forward and if they run into anything that stop them the spike attack person they on .
They not going to be walking in circles in hole they will still be walking forward .
 
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I don't believe it's because harald stronger than loki but i do believe the context is that if loki did not kill him then .
That harald would regen and his mind being taken over again .
With maybe this time they be unable to get him back to his sense and the fight would have become a stamina match up.
Which is why he allow loki the free hit to kill him right away .
If you want to say loki won because he get harald to get back to his senses to get the free hit .
Well i can see that point of view and i think that it is fair way to look at it .
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You´re overthinking it, Oda framed it as a Loki victory, because it´s what happened. Harald was unstoppable against a legitimate top tier in Gaban, with help, he was wondering if anyone in the world could even stop Harald, until Loki stopped him. Would the fight have restarted when Harald lost his senses again? Yes, but Loki would stop him again, as he already proved he could, without it being portrayed as extreme diff. Loki killing a Harald with his senses was just done for emotional and plot reasons, nothing relating to powerscaling, Loki already proved his superiority and shook Gaban and fucking Imu(in a flashback where no one could shake Imu), it´s easily one of the best feats in the manga, and for now, it seems fair to put him above Luffy because of it.
 
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