Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1174: THE STRONGEST BEING IN THIS WORLD

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and @Sir Yasheen

:pepebusi:

Told you guys :shocking:.
At best, it was Oda being ambiguous on purpose because he could have given at least one hint in the chapter, like it usually does and for example did with Killer in 996, that it was only about the mothers. Instead we had nothing, the mothers weren't even the thing (but parents/relatives) and all was a buildup to the big climax of the chapter.

Still, remains what I was saying about titles and their worth.
Oda pratically stopped doing full doublespreads since Dressrosa and only do them for exceptional events. Including this chapter we only have three of them since DR and the last two ones we got had the chapter's title directly related to them
1110 title (Gorosei = Five Elder Stars)
1110 doublespread

1138 title
1138 doublespread

Why would this one be an outlier?
People trying to muddy the water with chapter's title being from a child perspective, as if we haven't seen the kids calling Loki and Nika world destroyers earlier and them and their loved ones just got saved from a gigantic creature that triggered a gigantic lightnign/storm.

If Oda wanted to make it clear the title was about the scene with parents, he'd have the title being a direct quote from something a child like the two previous chapters.



The title is open to interpretation, and might even mean more than one thing so I'm fine with people saying it's a reference to love. What I don't like is the complete refusal of it referencing the chapter's cliffhanger despite it fitting and the haughty attitude people take over it.
And whoever it references I don't intent to take it literally, as full power Imu is obviously going to be stronger than either Loki or Luffy but the fact it makes people actually angry is funny.
 
Oda pratically stopped doing full doublespreads since Dressrosa and only do them for exceptional events. Including this chapter we only have three of them since DR and the last two ones we got had the chapter's title directly related to them
1110 title (Gorosei = Five Elder Stars)
1110 doublespread

1138 title
1138 doublespread

Why would this one be an outlier?
People trying to muddy the water with chapter's title being from a child perspective, as if we haven't seen the kids calling Loki and Nika world destroyers earlier and them and their loved ones just got saved from a gigantic creature that triggered a gigantic lightnign/storm.

If Oda wanted to make it clear the title was about the scene with parents, he'd have the title being a direct quote from something a child like the two previous chapters.



The title is open to interpretation, and might even mean more than one thing so I'm fine with people saying it's a reference to love. What I don't like is the complete refusal of it referencing the chapter's cliffhanger despite it fitting and the haughty attitude people take over it.
And whoever it references I don't intent to take it literally, as full power Imu is obviously going to be stronger than either Loki or Luffy but the fact it makes people actually angry is funny.
It would be hilarious if jarul says Loki and Luffys ancient counterparts where the strongest back in the mural times in the next chapter
 
and @Sir Yasheen

:pepebusi:

Told you guys :shocking:.
At best, it was Oda being ambiguous on purpose because he could have given at least one hint in the chapter, like it usually does and for example did with Killer in 996, that it was only about the mothers. Instead we had nothing, the mothers weren't even the thing (but parents/relatives) and all was a buildup to the big climax of the chapter.

Still, remains what I was saying about titles and their worth.
Loki doubters in shambles :suresure::suresure:
 
¨L¨oki hype is fine and everything, but don´t compare him to King Kuri, who is a legitmate monarch now, to some lowly thuggish giant. King Kuri was born sitting up and has never laid on his back in his life, ¨loki¨ was shamelessly born with an ugly ass face, cursing his mother and nation. He shamelessly laid down with Goofy and his crew, stuffing their face with meat. By feats, ¨L¨oki can´t even touch the invincible, he has no answer to future sight.
 
¨L¨oki hype is fine and everything, but don´t compare him to King Kuri, who is a legitmate monarch now, to some lowly thuggish giant. King Kuri was born sitting up and has never laid on his back in his life, ¨loki¨ was shamelessly born with an ugly ass face, cursing his mother and nation. He shamelessly laid down with Goofy and his crew, stuffing their face with meat. By feats, ¨L¨oki can´t even touch the invincible, he has no answer to future sight.
 
Am I tripping or is ndule only liking the Anti Loki posts 🤣
Not surprised lol.

Loki is another character who destroys the Emperor/pirate only dogma (I mean: Imu wasn't enough lol?), and more so destorys the Lolden agenda, which Ndule is a top supporter because again: agenda of Emperor etc..

Oda pratically stopped doing full doublespreads since Dressrosa and only do them for exceptional events. Including this chapter we only have three of them since DR and the last two ones we got had the chapter's title directly related to them
1110 title (Gorosei = Five Elder Stars)
1110 doublespread

1138 title
1138 doublespread

Why would this one be an outlier?
People trying to muddy the water with chapter's title being from a child perspective, as if we haven't seen the kids calling Loki and Nika world destroyers earlier and them and their loved ones just got saved from a gigantic creature that triggered a gigantic lightnign/storm.

If Oda wanted to make it clear the title was about the scene with parents, he'd have the title being a direct quote from something a child like the two previous chapters.



The title is open to interpretation, and might even mean more than one thing so I'm fine with people saying it's a reference to love. What I don't like is the complete refusal of it referencing the chapter's cliffhanger despite it fitting and the haughty attitude people take over it.
And whoever it references I don't intent to take it literally, as full power Imu is obviously going to be stronger than either Loki or Luffy but the fact it makes people actually angry is funny.
Great post.

This further shows how it should have been clear that the title wasn't "surely" about the mothers/parents, as we have been saying. Now even Sandman had to state out loud.

As said, I too had nothing against the people who said it could be about the mothers: I had an issue with people who said it couldn't be about Loki and Luffy for sure and was clearly only about the mothers. That didn't make any sense narratively and logically for the reasons said and for the other reasons you have just listed.

Outside of this anyway, I am not going to "use" this title, because it's clear it has to be taken lightly; the mere existence of Imu tells us so. However, it was really something to see the internet so worked up on this. Loki really strikes fear lol.
 
Why are you as a Luffy fan doubting Loki? Wouldn’t it be smart to pair them together?
Not doubting when its a inevitability. But Blackbeardturds need a big fat slap of a L, even more so then ZZK Zoro fans. So, I'll take any BB L, even if it upscales enemy agendas.
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Sun god was being clowned by old waban at start of elbaph :willight:
Lizard got his shit ripped apart by Shamrocks pet dog. :gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh:
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Lol, why this fear?

In this chapter is said again that Loki is the destroyer of the two. Maybe yes, maybe no, but could be.
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Cool, but nothing to do with that statement or the present situation in which those who fell weren't even all mothers.
Not fear, just clearing up clown takes.
Luffy is the destroyer. Cope.
 
A massive dragon that change the weather and just saved them and their parents at the end is actually the kind of stuff kids would be in awe if, idk how the title being from the kids point of view would mean the title is not about Loki when it's the opposite.
Could be both tbh.

A double entendre, I believe it's called? Figuratively mother's love is strongest, literally it's the ginormous dragon who just showed up and saved them.

Edit: just now saw your latest response, mb. Think we're on the same page.
 
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