To be fair to Flower having a bad game is all it is. There is frustration there obviously but I think she puts too much pressure onto herself over something like this which is, let's be honest, inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.
I was disappointed she didn't join to dead chat because it shows to me that she's taking it far too personally and in a damaging way amd I wish she would learn not to do that. I think the claiming vig goes hand in hand with her needing to clear herself to relieve some of that pressure she puts on herself but it's just not how the game should work tactically and she's too good of a player overall to not be able to make her points and let them stand as testament to her alignment.
I think the mental process she has is "people suspect me, and if I get lynched from that it means I was shit" and puts too much I guess "ego" within being perceived as shit when 9 times out of 10 the fault lies with the players misreading her when they're wrong. I think she needs to find a way to seperate this "ego" from how her slot is perceived within these games, Crowned Witch to a lesser extent too. Both of these are capable players to me who could be even better if they just let go of what is frankly, silly hysteria.
Prof I would say also falls into this somewhat as well. His reaction tends to be more inward and less explosive but it's still there, and it would be nice to see him turn a corner with this too. What I said to him in the last day was valid - you can't be referencing having some issues when yiu get questioned because that immediately changes the context and prevents your interlocutor from being able to engage with it as it should be, and becomes an entirely more emotional interaction than what anyone should be expected to receive in hobby.
Obviously Prof, I offer my condolences and your grieving process is far bigger than an experience someone has in a game. I wish you well and I hope your family are holding up okay too. It probably isn't good timing on my part to bring this up, but I do so anyway because I trust that you'll take it the way it's intended. I think the reason you step back from Mafia is because of these elements and I think there is enough within the game itself that is tailor made for someone like you with your interests and personality, but because it carries this excess baggage with it for you, it pushes you away. And this baggage is something that doesn't need to be there at all, but it is and I hope you can unload it eventually because I know there is a player in there that loves the game and is, might I add, pretty darn good at it.
That's really all I have to add to this and if it does come across as failing to read the room, for all three of those listed then take this as an apology and feel free to disregard it.
I was disappointed she didn't join to dead chat because it shows to me that she's taking it far too personally and in a damaging way amd I wish she would learn not to do that. I think the claiming vig goes hand in hand with her needing to clear herself to relieve some of that pressure she puts on herself but it's just not how the game should work tactically and she's too good of a player overall to not be able to make her points and let them stand as testament to her alignment.
I think the mental process she has is "people suspect me, and if I get lynched from that it means I was shit" and puts too much I guess "ego" within being perceived as shit when 9 times out of 10 the fault lies with the players misreading her when they're wrong. I think she needs to find a way to seperate this "ego" from how her slot is perceived within these games, Crowned Witch to a lesser extent too. Both of these are capable players to me who could be even better if they just let go of what is frankly, silly hysteria.
Prof I would say also falls into this somewhat as well. His reaction tends to be more inward and less explosive but it's still there, and it would be nice to see him turn a corner with this too. What I said to him in the last day was valid - you can't be referencing having some issues when yiu get questioned because that immediately changes the context and prevents your interlocutor from being able to engage with it as it should be, and becomes an entirely more emotional interaction than what anyone should be expected to receive in hobby.
Obviously Prof, I offer my condolences and your grieving process is far bigger than an experience someone has in a game. I wish you well and I hope your family are holding up okay too. It probably isn't good timing on my part to bring this up, but I do so anyway because I trust that you'll take it the way it's intended. I think the reason you step back from Mafia is because of these elements and I think there is enough within the game itself that is tailor made for someone like you with your interests and personality, but because it carries this excess baggage with it for you, it pushes you away. And this baggage is something that doesn't need to be there at all, but it is and I hope you can unload it eventually because I know there is a player in there that loves the game and is, might I add, pretty darn good at it.
That's really all I have to add to this and if it does come across as failing to read the room, for all three of those listed then take this as an apology and feel free to disregard it.
