Controversial The Great Loki vs The Top Dogs Bet.
- Thread starter Xione
- Start date
Yea he's just an overgrown lizard who got turned into Luffy's pet the moment he transformed.
And in the same chapter that was supposed to be his big reveal, the entire land of Elbaf starts clapping for Loki's owner, with the Greatest hero of the Giants announcing the arrival of Kizaru's inferior the great Monkey D. Luffy. 💀
Also, using a mural about a battle lost 800 years ago for who is more relevant in the current era where the battle will be won... probably not the best idea.
And in the same chapter that was supposed to be his big reveal, the entire land of Elbaf starts clapping for Loki's owner, with the Greatest hero of the Giants announcing the arrival of Kizaru's inferior the great Monkey D. Luffy. 💀
Also, using a mural about a battle lost 800 years ago for who is more relevant in the current era where the battle will be won... probably not the best idea.
Yeah, "Teach's body" is weird, singular. Marco has been around Blackbeard since they were like 10. He doesn't think of him as multiple people. The Marines also call him "Blackbeard" as an individual, as does Shanks.
Teach being like three souls is deader then the souls Shamrocks pet dog Cerberus guards, bro.
Teach being like three souls is deader then the souls Shamrocks pet dog Cerberus guards, bro.
If you're going to slander Loki, try making fun of his canon hair colors or failed romance history, the lizard thing needs work.
Also, the mural is literally part of the entire arc being a setup for Loki as a character. It's not like Oda created it to show off ancient history. I don't even really have a major agenda here, there are characters I like way more then Loki, but I don't understand the deliberate dishonesty.
Also, the mural is literally part of the entire arc being a setup for Loki as a character. It's not like Oda created it to show off ancient history. I don't even really have a major agenda here, there are characters I like way more then Loki, but I don't understand the deliberate dishonesty.
- Loki FC is behaving like Kaido FC clones from wano arc. I called Kaido an overgrown lizard, Loki being the bigger dragon now takes that mantel from Kaido.
- Not sure what this has anything to do with what I said as a reply to relevancy of a character being more than somebody else, because they're on the mural. Again, the mural is about a battle from 800 years ago, Loki's dragon DF being on it does not give him more relevance in the present as its a grander war that will actually be won, aka other factors that were not present back then. Where is the dishonesty in this?
- Not sure what this has anything to do with what I said as a reply to relevancy of a character being more than somebody else, because they're on the mural. Again, the mural is about a battle from 800 years ago, Loki's dragon DF being on it does not give him more relevance in the present as its a grander war that will actually be won, aka other factors that were not present back then. Where is the dishonesty in this?
Because Oda didn't suddenly pull a Tolkien and decide that he wanted to go and explore three different eras, the mural is pretty obviously a foreshadowing what will happen in the future, it's not a coincidence that it was shown to us in the final saga, before we would see a similar situation play out.
This is where the flashback comes into question, Oda specifically ties it to the present. The flashback starts with Rocks D Xebec meeting Imu, the man he dreams of taking down(well actually, it starts out with Harald meeting Ida, but you understand what I mean lol, the extremely plot relevant part), then we see him through the years trying to get Loki's father to eat that Dragon fruit, because it's one of the 2 fruits crucial to his plan to take down Imu. You literally need Loki's power, and we later see that at the end of Rocks's life, he, his crew, Garp, Roger, all tried and failed to do anything to Imu. Because that "overgrown Lizard" fruit is obviously essential to taking down Imu. It's not really an exaggeration to say that almost everything that's happened on Elbaf is about building up Loki, the only character on the alliance side who can reasonably do more then him is ofc Luffy, and in the overall plot, Blackbeard and Imu.
That's why I think it's borderline dishonesty, the mural is pretty obviously Oda's way of telling us that Loki is one of the most important members of the alliance, and the rest of the arc has just been explaining how and why.
This is where the flashback comes into question, Oda specifically ties it to the present. The flashback starts with Rocks D Xebec meeting Imu, the man he dreams of taking down(well actually, it starts out with Harald meeting Ida, but you understand what I mean lol, the extremely plot relevant part), then we see him through the years trying to get Loki's father to eat that Dragon fruit, because it's one of the 2 fruits crucial to his plan to take down Imu. You literally need Loki's power, and we later see that at the end of Rocks's life, he, his crew, Garp, Roger, all tried and failed to do anything to Imu. Because that "overgrown Lizard" fruit is obviously essential to taking down Imu. It's not really an exaggeration to say that almost everything that's happened on Elbaf is about building up Loki, the only character on the alliance side who can reasonably do more then him is ofc Luffy, and in the overall plot, Blackbeard and Imu.
That's why I think it's borderline dishonesty, the mural is pretty obviously Oda's way of telling us that Loki is one of the most important members of the alliance, and the rest of the arc has just been explaining how and why.
Brotha, you're equating me stating "just cause Loki is on the mural doesnt equate to him being more important than a character who isnt on the mural" with "Loki is not relevant at all and the mural doesn't matter".
The latter would be dishonesty, but that isn't the point that im making. Your points would be perfect for the latter, but thats not what im saying. Loki is very important to the story as he possesses a DF that played an important part in the war 800+ years ago. However, that doesn't equate to him being automatically more relevant than characters who arent shown on the mural from a war 800 years ago.
The latter would be dishonesty, but that isn't the point that im making. Your points would be perfect for the latter, but thats not what im saying. Loki is very important to the story as he possesses a DF that played an important part in the war 800+ years ago. However, that doesn't equate to him being automatically more relevant than characters who arent shown on the mural from a war 800 years ago.
