How many Ls is Luffy gonna suffer before finally taking down Domi Reversi God of War Woki?


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There’s a very real chance Loki will end up being stronger than Kaido but I gotta see a bit more before I’m 100% sure
I am curious though:

- Being stronger pre-DF than Xebec's equal wasn't enough;
- Being stronger than HK Harald (DR Xebec's equal) wasn't enough even thought Gaban literally said Harald was unstoppable for anyone and Imu called him a monster and was flabbergasted that someone could kill him;
- Having a super mythical fruit hyped in any conceivable way (and of which Kaido's looks like a worthless, cheap knockoff) and present in the Harley wasn't enough;
- being now confirmed a literal new God of War wasn't enough

What is going to be then?

At this point even being Imu won't be enough.
 
This is just like the raid, things seem to be going too well but it's not because there's some plan from Oda, he just isn't putting much tension in the manga anymore.

And just like how no one could really beat Kaido in Wano even though his underlings weren't too much of a problem, same in Elbaf, Gunkimu can essentially solo the SHP because no one but Loki is confirmed to be able to even damage him, though probably Luffy will be confirmed as well, but he's still too strong for both of them Imo, and Loki isn't in 100 percent health.

Sommers and Killingham are the strongest GK aside from the figarlands and Gunko, which is why they were sent to replace Shamrock. They're essentially upgraded versions of King and Queen, we already saw how Sommers was a close associate of Garling back in the day, and the only HK who wasn't really just sucking his dick, and we'll probably get similar lore soon about how Killingham was really close to Shamrock, they seem to be around the same age range, and Killingham is maybe the son of the girl HK from GV who we saw with with Garling and Sommers. Oda hasn't had him jobbing yet because he's probably going to be around current Zoro's level, but Oda didn't really hype the GK much because the arc was mostly about Loki, Imu and the flashback, and Oda doesn't really care much about hyping non Luffy opponents anymore, or characters who aren't related to Luffy in general.
 
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When it comes to the Five Elders, while we still don't know if their powers are actual mythical zoan devil fruits or if they were given to them by Imu.

But if they are actual mythical zoan users, I believe Ju Peter's Sandworm will be part of the Dragon-Dragon Fruit.

Some might think he would be classified as part of the worm-worm fruit, but I believe he will be classified as part of the dragon-dragon fruit instead.

Ignoring the sand part in the name, remember that in some mythology there are limbless serpent like dragons with no wings that are called Wyrm.

Ju Peter's Sandworm imo is closest to what we will get of a Wyrm.
:gosecon:
If we assume Gunko is immortal because she has an Abyssal Seal, then that means the Gorosei probably do have Mythical Zoan DFs since Gunko never showed a Yokai transformation
 
Okay so it’s now confirmed. Loki is the first and only DF user in the story to ever use Both Haki and his DF ability while in seastone

is this an inconsistency by Oda or is it a power scaling thing?

Remember that Luffy said that having seastone shackles in Udon was enough to make him unable to use Haki.

Loki summoned lightning with his DF and also Used black lightning Haki while in seastone shackles
 
It has more to do with Oda's mishandling of Kaido than anything else tbh.
Though It's almost uncanny how Oda literally took all what Kaido had PL wise, and I mean literally every characteristic, and gave Loki the far better version of them.

The better dragon now Is the most prominent and clear but I mean, even the "War" thing: Kaido talked about war non stop, even during his introduction.
Loki --> new God of War lol
 
Okay so it’s now confirmed. Loki is the first and only DF user in the story to ever use Both Haki and his DF ability while in seastone

is this an inconsistency by Oda or is it a power scaling thing?

Remember that Luffy said that having seastone shackles in Udon was enough to make him unable to use Haki.

Loki summoned lightning with his DF and also Used black lightning Haki while in seastone shackles
Woki is just that Guy,we already seen him doing a kaido introduction level feat as a 1 day old baby.
 
I am curious though:

- Being stronger pre-DF than Xebec's equal wasn't enough;
- Being stronger than HK Harald (DR Xebec's equal) wasn't enough even thought Gaban literally said Harald was unstoppable for anyone and Imu called him a monster and was flabbergasted that someone could kill him;
- Having a super mythical fruit hyped in any conceivable way (and of which Kaido's looks like a worthless, cheap knockoff) and present in the Harley wasn't enough;
- being now confirmed a literal new God of War wasn't enough

What is going to be then?

At this point even being Imu won't be enough.
He needs to have a title that was not earned by actually beating anyone in particular and a higher bounty from the same people who regard Usopp as a bigger threat than Chopper.

Because those two criteria are suuuuuper relevant on their own you see.
 
This is just like the raid, things seem to be going too well but it's not because there's some plan from Oda, he just isn't putting much tension in the manga anymore.

And just like how no one could really beat Kaido in Wano even though his underlings weren't too much of a problem, same in Elbaf, Gunkimu can essentially solo the SHP because no one but Loki is confirmed to be able to even damage him, though probably Luffy will be confirmed as well, but he's still too strong for both of them Imo, and Loki isn't in 100 percent health.

Sommers and Killingham are the strongest GK aside from the figarlands and Gunko, which is why they were sent to replace Shamrock. They're essentially upgraded versions of King and Queen, we already saw how Sommers was a close associate of Garling back in the day, and the only HK who wasn't really just sucking his dick, and we'll probably get similar lore soon about how Killingham was really close to Shamrock, they seem to be around the same age range, and Killingham is maybe the son of the girl HK from GV who we saw with with Garling and Sommers. Oda hasn't had him jobbing yet because he's probably going to be around current Zoro's level, but Oda didn't really hype the GK much because the arc was mostly about Loki, Imu and the flashback, and Oda doesn't really care much about hyping non Luffy opponents anymore, or characters who aren't related to Luffy in general.
Oda’s refusal to make his villains intimidating in any way is the most baffling thing about modern One Piece
 
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