Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1175 Spoilers Discussion

[ShishioIsBack]

The gap between Luffy and Zoro will be about the same as the gap between Roger and Rayleigh.

First of all both Rayleigh and Gaban are said to be Roger's equals and Rayleigh even more so

Roger and Rayleigh are more or less equals and Gaban is bare minimum High diff fight based on portrayal for both.

Sanji is less than a low diff for Luffy and has been for 80% of Manga

So Roger's Wings Dynamics literally do not apply.

For Luffy Zoro Sanji

it is either gonna be

1 -> Luffy (Joy Boy+) >> Zoro (Slightly Stronger than Domi-Reversed Xebec) >>>>>>>> Sanji EoS (Slightly stronger than Kizaru)
2 -> 1 -> Luffy (Joy Boy+) = Zoro (Joy Boy+) >>>>>>>> Sanji EoS (Slightly stronger than Kizaru)
2 -> 1 -> Zoro (Joy Boy++) > Luffy (Joy Boy+) >>>>>>>> Sanji EoS (Slightly stronger than Kizaru)

 

[Dragon777]

I just don’t think people should get carried away with the god hype.

I’m willing to bet by the EoS every other character will be called some sort of god. It will be meaningless.

Depends on the God: the big four we previously know (Earth, Sea/Rain, Sun and Forest) + the other two present as prominent figures in the Harley (War God and the Serpent, which I presume is going to be another one) are of a different breed from the rest.

Obviously, not any random hobos called God. I mean, the big pig back in Wano was called the Mountain God lol.

 

[gz89]

@Boiroy Yoru has the spirit of Mihawk's mom (Imu's wife)

 

[Etemenanki]

God of the Blade > Sun god

It's no coincidence that Zoro cuts a sun in the very country Ryuuma and he himself originate from.

The mental gymnastics of the Swordbros always amaze me.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Nah, Wano is the ones who built up the borders for protection. The WG doesn't cover plenty of countries. There was never a proper war between the two, which is why Wano people don't know about the Marines and the such.

There's a reason why we only saw Imu recognize Loki and Rocks. No one else in the GV 6 or the SHP had an ancestor who fought Imu back then, and Loki's ancestor isn't confirmed either.

Reread the fucking manga and focus on section where it is stated "World Government was known as a country of Gold" and World Nobles wanted it and marines and world government tried attacking and they all were scared away by one man who became God of the Blade Ryuma.

Imu is petty enough to take out a random country like Ohara for going against World Government, World Government sent an admiral after fodders cuz a celestial dragon got punched.

This is Ryuma down right saying Fuck you to World Government.
I won't even be surprised if Ryuma killed previous user of Loki's devil fruit in Wano.

 

[Rukusho]

First of all both Rayleigh and Gaban are said to be Roger's equals and Rayleigh even more so

Roger and Rayleigh are more or less equals and Gaban is bare minimum High diff fight based on portrayal for both.

Sanji is less than a low diff for Luffy and has been for 80% of Manga

So Roger's Wings Dynamics literally do not apply.

For Luffy Zoro Sanji

it is either gonna be

1 -> Luffy (Joy Boy+) >> Zoro (Slightly Stronger than Domi-Reversed Xebec) >>>>>>>> Sanji EoS (Slightly stronger than Kizaru)
2 -> 1 -> Luffy (Joy Boy+) = Zoro (Joy Boy+) >>>>>>>> Sanji EoS (Slightly stronger than Kizaru)
2 -> 1 -> Zoro (Joy Boy++) > Luffy (Joy Boy+) >>>>>>>> Sanji EoS (Slightly stronger than Kizaru)

Sanji should be worried about Jinbei

 

[Nagasaki]

sanji has yet t easily defeat a single opponent...

luffy also fight the strongest that scale well above zoro and especially sanjis opponents

5 Kings would not be enough to remotely damage Kaido, a dozen Queens do nothing to Kaido.

With DJ he defeated Jyabura with zero difficulty, and with IJ he brutally assaulted Queen. I said that Sanji and Zoro "play hard to get" with their opponents, but when they decide to win or unlock an ability, they win easily. If Zoro were to have a second fight against King, he would win with zero difficulty.

 

[Worst]

I think Imu cannot physically leave MJ.

hmmm i think he can and he's just " scared " i think it has to do with the will of the D. maybe ?

Cuz he called Xebec Davy Jones
He called Loki Niddhog
And he called Luffy Joy Boy

So it's like he knows those people's wills are still lurking around and could appear at any time and maybe he just wants to avoid direct confrontation ( though he should be able to smoke them all in their current state lol )

 

[Fujishiro]

hmmm i think he can and he's just " scared " i think it has to do with the will of the D. maybe ?

Cuz he called Xebec Davy Jones
He called Loki Niddhog
And he called Luffy Joy Boy

So it's like he knows those people's wills are still lurking around and could appear at any time and maybe he just wants to avoid direct confrontation ( though he should be able to smoke them all in their current state lol )

I doubt it lol.

 

[Crow]

The mental gymnastics of the Swordbros always amaze me.

Naturally. We're are doing actual exercises. We don't rely on plug and play magic power coupons such as DFs

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Sanji should be worried about Jinbei

Whether he should be worried about Jinbei or not, Oda literally has killed Sanji's any hope of being close to Zoro by making Gaban so close to Roger yet Sanji so far from Luffy destroying the Zoro Sanji dynamic in process as previous wings dynamic with captain was a lot different

@ZenZu No leeching for Sanji unfortunately

 

[MegaSpider]

Luffy: "He's from my crew, and his name is Zoro!! Don't you forget that!!"

Luffy just setup a future Zoro vs Sommers fight. Maybe in the final war.

 

[soupongo]

Reread the fucking manga and focus on section where it is stated "World Government was known as a country of Gold" and World Nobles wanted it and marines and world government tried attacking and they all were scared away by one man who became God of the Blade Ryuma.

Imu is petty enough to take out a random country like Ohara for going against World Government, World Government sent an admiral after fodders cuz a celestial dragon got punched.

This is Ryuma down right saying Fuck you to World Government.
I won't even be surprised if Ryuma killed previous user of Loki's devil fruit in Wano.

So if world nobles invaded Wano, why doesn't Oden know about the Marines and asks Whitebeard about a global organization?

Either it wasn't really Cd's and it was a translation error just implying nobles from around the world, or it was only random CD's who poked their noses too far. But if Imu fought Zoro's ancestors, he and the Gorosei would talk to Zoro about it like they did to Rocks, or Loki this chapter, and he would call him Ryuma and stuff. And CD's don't really care much about gold, they want slaves and people to kill.

For now, he doesn't really seem to care about any strawhats ancestory, including Luffy.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Anyways someone talked about focus on Zoro, I am curious to know what focus?

I guess what you can say is that Zoro and Luffy both are getting Tier B focus and Tier A Focus is on Loki but Zoro hasn't really received some stand out treatment either.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Loki aint on the one piece spread lmfaoooo
Whats the excuse now bums

He's joining the crew and replacing Zoro as the first mate. Ask @Naomi

 

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[Nagasaki]

First of all both Rayleigh and Gaban are said to be Roger's equals and Rayleigh even more so

Roger and Rayleigh are more or less equals and Gaban is bare minimum High diff fight based on portrayal for both.

Sanji is less than a low diff for Luffy and has been for 80% of Manga

So Roger's Wings Dynamics literally do not apply.

For Luffy Zoro Sanji

it is either gonna be

1 -> Luffy (Joy Boy+) >> Zoro (Slightly Stronger than Domi-Reversed Xebec) >>>>>>>> Sanji EoS (Slightly stronger than Kizaru)
2 -> 1 -> Luffy (Joy Boy+) = Zoro (Joy Boy+) >>>>>>>> Sanji EoS (Slightly stronger than Kizaru)
2 -> 1 -> Zoro (Joy Boy++) > Luffy (Joy Boy+) >>>>>>>> Sanji EoS (Slightly stronger than Kizaru)

Being as strong as Kizaru is an excellent W for Sanji.

 

[Paragorn]

You the same bum gassing up loki

Well the weakest Zoro possibly can be is Domi-Xebec tier+ since he was still a swordsman

Zoro's absolute floor is strongest swordsman ever
So that is already above Roger + Garp combined

Worst case scenario is 1 EoS Zoro = 2 Pirate King Level characters.

Then Ryuma is actually a Swordsman on whom the word "God" is attached to and it isn't some self proclaimed or forced upon title either.


I am 99% sure Imu is mentally scarred by Ryuma as well hence why World Government stays away from Wano.
But if you wanna be a bitch we can say EoS Zoro = 2 Gol D Rogers

my guy is so beyond goated that he had a base fine grade blade that he turned into an excellent grade and has been renowned since he went on his own journey, so far to the point that Woriah revived his corpse and weapon together.

God of the Blade > Sun god

It's no coincidence that Zoro cuts a sun in the very country Ryuuma and he himself originate from.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Is that squirrel really stronger than Xebec...?

You think the right hand man of the God of War would be any less?