Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1175 Spoilers Discussion

[Dragon777]

apart from imu and killingham every plot is pretty much resolved.

Spitballing here:

- Imu vs Loki and Luffy;
- Killingham;
- Zoro and Sanji vs Dorry and Brogy;
- Hajurdin and co. and their role;
- we still don't know anything about the Heaven world and Mosa;
- Usopp's role here, suppogin for Oda this is a crucial for him.

Basically we have yet to see ALL the fights and we lack any hints still about Mosa/the Heaven world.
And that Is supposing someone like Kidd doesn't just pop out.

But even when Just the fights are involved, you can look at Onigashima to see how Oda drags things.

I would be amazed if all this was closed in ~20 chapters only. But probably more ~30.

 

[Don Diego]

Nika looks like Luffy

Or Luffy looks like Nika

 

[Blax Blah]

Spitballing here:

- Imu vs Loki and Luffy;
- Killingham;
- Zoro and Sanji vs Dorry and Brogy;
- Hajurdin and co. and their role;
- we still don't know anything about the Heaven world and Mosa;
- Usopp's role here, suppogin for Oda this is a crucial for him.

Basically we have yet to see ALL the fights and we lack any hints still about Mosa/the Heaven world.
And that Is supposing someone like Kidd doesn't just pop out.

But even when Just the fights are involved, you can look at Onigashima to see how Oda drags things.

I would be amazed if all this was closed in ~20 chapters only. But probably more ~30.

30-40-50 chapters imo

 

[Loki D. Terror]

I agree, forest god could be a literal tree from the ancient kingdom where the first devil fruits appeared. King of the ancient kingdom was Davy Jones.

What do you think about loki having earth god DF?

 

[Dragon777]

30-40-50 chapters imo

And there Is also the usual countdown of the arc.

I suppose this time is going to be Erbaf going up in flames, since It was hinted.

 

[Blax Blah]

And there Is also the usual countdown of the arc.

I suppose this time is going to be Erbaf going up in flames, since It was hinted.

I think we often think arcs would be shorter while they're ongoing than they actually end up being

 

[Salah WG]

What do you think about this foreshadowing?

Kaido ---> Nidhogg, War God from 1st World
Oden ---> Davy Jones, 1st World
Orochi ---> Imu's ancestor from 1st World

Imu: That guy(Davy Jones) was never king!
Same thing as Oden was never a Shogun.

Orochi is terrified because he knows how he obtained the throne and he knows that Sccabards might return.
Imu is also terrified, most likely of Nidhogg and thats why he wants Ancient Weapon to secure a victory whenever Nidhogg returns. Rocks also told Imu that he was afraid for a long time.

Nidhogg may not have been working with Imu's ancestor but he might be the reason for downfall of Davy Jones.
Instead of boiling in oil, he was cursed/banished to some place underwater...

Elbaph God does not Reference Kaidou, because Overarching Villains are Outsiders,
Instead, this War between God of War & Nika is simply Elbaph's Version of Kingdom's Internal Conflict,
Way before Elbaph Started, I told you that I'm waiting to see what's gonna be Elbaph's Version of Wapol vs Dalton or Cobra vs Koza or Skypieans vs Shandians or Doffy vs Kyros or Neptune vs Hody ... etc

At first, it was teased with Giants divided on whether They are on Nika's Side or against him, confirming the existence of such Conflict, and now Oda simply Confirmed it & revealed who was leading the Anti-Nika Side,

Spoiler: The Reason For Conflict

However, there doesn't seem to be any kind of Rebel Group in Elbaph, this already suggests that Nika vs God of War happened cuz of Outsiders, They couldn't agree on how to handle other People (Probably Humans),

Is there such Group of Humans who are related to Giants & follow Nika? Yes, it's Buccaneers!
Buccaneers according to Gaban are Hybrids, but They aren't like Colon for example, suggesting They aren't just result of races mixing, but instead some Science Project, which makes sense after seeing Elbaph Animals & how They are directly taken from Strong World Movie,

Animals in Strong World Movie ate special plant that made them evolve & have developed brains, but Indigo (Shiki's Scientist) went even further & developed a drug from that plant that would make those Animals evolve even more and "adapt" to their environment!
Now imagine such experiments conducted on Humans? That's literally how Races came to Exist, (Hence Ancient Laboratory in Elbaph)

Fish-Men are just Humans who adapted to the Sea for example, apply same logic to Minks, Dwarves, Lunarians ... etc
This is why WG hunt Buccaneers & don't allow them to exist, because They are living proof that Races were Man-Made, as They are the common link & where all Races History meet,

Probably, Nika was supporting the idea (He was basically like Gaimon who wanted to Protect his Rare Friends), He wanted to fight for all races existence, while God of War rejected it, fearing it's catastrophic potential and believed Humans should remain as They are,

Spoiler: Who Was Villain?

Nika & God of War are actually Reference to Vicki The Viking, where one was basically Strongest Viking (He had an Eye-Patch + Redbeard), while other had weakest body for a Giant, but had a mind full of imagination & intellect (Basically Usopp), the movies How To Train Your Dragon were also inspired from vicki the viking & it had similar idea, Hiccup was a weak viking but very smart, while his father was strongest viking, just replace Dragons with Buccaneers/Other Races,

If Nika is Vicky & this God of War is Halvar from that Cartoon, then Elbaph's Ancient Villain can only be based on Sven The Terrible,
One look at him, and you notice that's who your Kaidou should be, but this Villain didn't visit Elbaph himself, instead it was Laboratory for his Scientist (Just like Caesar), who as I explained above, created Buccaneers/Races,

Why would such a Villain develop that Idea? Because just like Kaidou or Big Mom, They don't want to feel alone, They want others to resemble them, and this Villain wanted Buccaneers because He himself looks like one & is their Alpha,

I do recall I mentioned the existence of such Character before, someone who represents Ultimate Creature, a Buccaneer on Steroids, someone who is basically Kars from JoJo, who have Lineage Factor or DNA of every creature, and I theorized that He will be Introduced in Chapter 1200,

Spoiler: Where WG/Davy Fits?

This Theory actually also answers why Nika is Rubber, because if He was also affected by those experiments & his Body was programmed to adapt, then it was his Fights with Nidhogg that led to his Body becoming Rubber, Oda literally told us this Chapter why Nika is Rubber, and tbh adapting can be seen as chasing your dreams, so not only Races came to exist from Elbaph, but Devil Fruits too originated because of that Alpha Buccaneer Villain & his Scientist (Btw in recent chapter, it was written by Oda as Elbaf, suggesting that it might indeed be reference to Fable, further strengthening this Theory),

Kaidou/Caesar & Shiki/Indigo were always portrayed as Mini Version of Final Villain,
While Imu & Mary Geoise? They are apparently Endgame Version of Dressrosa & Donquixote Pirates,
Davy Clan are apparently New Riku Family, and Davy Jones was it's Kyros (Wasn't He cursed too?)
And similar to Dressrosa, there was an Island of a different Race attached to it (Green Bit) and that's who Kyros recruited, right?
So after Davy Jones Defeat, He went to an Island attached to WG's Territory (Red Line) & that's literally Fish-Men Island & it's indeed in Sea Underworld, so it all fits, (You can even notice how Mansherry is basically Dwarf Version of Shirahoshi among many examples),

What is gonna be Wano of Story? It's where Laugh Tale is located, where Four Poneglyphs lead you,
Laugh Tale is simply where the Treasure is hidden there, it doesn't mean it's not surrounded by a Sky Island or Wano-Like Region,
Roger Pirates probably had their biggest & possibly their most difficult adventure there, They didn't just find One Piece from first minute,

I said it many times, Main Villain of Story cannot be from within this World's Conflict, and the only place that is unreachable by this World is where Laugh Tale is Located, that's only place that you can't just randomly find no matter what, so that's where Final Villain should be,

 

[Paragorn]

Kaido ---> Nidhogg, War God from 1st World

 

[Nogard]

still no raws?

 

[Blazing Lion]

Feel sad for those still pushing the DR Dorry and Broggy vs Zoro and Hilt Diff Victim

 

[SakazOuki]

Thx to @Lance_Dragonite

They think they are THEM

 

[Loki D. Terror]

They think they are THEM

More like indra and asura

 

[Getku]

Spitballing here:

- Imu vs Loki and Luffy;
- Killingham;
- Zoro and Sanji vs Dorry and Brogy;
- Hajurdin and co. and their role;
- we still don't know anything about the Heaven world and Mosa;
- Usopp's role here, suppogin for Oda this is a crucial for him.

Basically we have yet to see ALL the fights and we lack any hints still about Mosa/the Heaven world.
And that Is supposing someone like Kidd doesn't just pop out.

But even when Just the fights are involved, you can look at Onigashima to see how Oda drags things.

I would be amazed if all this was closed in ~20 chapters only. But probably more ~30.

all your headcanon.
why would there be Zoro and sanji vs dorry/broggy?

or usopo role.

as for haijrudidin, imunko and killingham 5 chapter is enough.
after all in 3 chapter domi reversi giant, sommer,kid and strawhat captive problem was solved.

even loki power and introduction happened in same 3 chapter

 

[Vergil]

Feel sad for those still pushing the DR Dorry and Broggy vs Zoro and Hilt Diff Victim

Well Zoro sure as shit ain't fighting Imu with Luffy and Loki

 

[Getku]

Feel sad for those still pushing the DR Dorry and Broggy vs Zoro and Hilt Diff Victim

let them push sanji fans every headcanon got wrecked.

vs sommer
vs dorry/broggy
Gaban team up and Gaban teaching him haki.
sanji conqueror

they are even calling robin normal thorn same as invisible thorn that sommer used on kid, just to give him fake hype

 

[Getku]

Well Zoro sure as shit ain't fighting Imu with Luffy and Loki

we will see.
there's a reason oda united Zoro with Luffy instantly after Luffy came to sun world

 

[matt245]

zoro and imu interaction will make this fandom mad.
zoro to imu- those eyes
imu to zoro- that face and aura.

Luffy making sure that sommers remembers zoro's name when he cry infront of imu and say the names who neg diff bitched him.

Yeah I'm afraid you are too far gone. May you recover from whatever mental illness you are suffering

 

[Dragon777]

all your headcanon.
why would there be Zoro and sanji vs dorry/broggy?

or usopo role.

If by "headcanon" you mean simple reasoning and seeing what happened in the other major arcs, yes.

As it is "all your headcanon" that it won't happen.

as for haijrudidin, imunko and killingham 5 chapter is enough.

LOL.

Have you ever read a final fight of a big arc? That part alone tends to be 1/3 if not 1/2 of the arc. Onigashima in particular was, but WC and DR/WC too.

In Dressrosa Luffy vs Doflamingo began in chapter 752--> the arc ended almost at 800; in WC Luffy vs Kata started in 878 --> the arc ended in chapter 902. I trust I don't have to quote Wano.

even loki power and introduction happened in same 3 chapter

?
Loki had an entire FB about him.

If you mean him being presented and then passing out, that's like saying Kaido's power and introduction was of two chapters back in Kuri.

 

[Soyz]

we will see.
there's a reason oda united Zoro with Luffy instantly after Luffy came to sun world

Pinzoro fight ragnir and loses, realise that mohawk is a fraud and a hammer is stronger then him 🤣 🤣 🤣

 

[Dragon777]

Feel sad for those still pushing the DR Dorry and Broggy vs Zoro and Hilt Diff Victim

You would really prefer an Holy Fodder instead of one of the legendary, 2B giants captain, now power upped and immortal?