Luffy has spent more than half of his life actually training and has had the bulk of his growth happen exactly as Rayleigh prescribed. Loki grew up as the prince of the strongest king in arguably the strongest nation. He's actually 64 years old. Both fruits are bullshit but this isn't unearned by any other means.
There is a growing number of Japanese watching spoiler channel on youtube that are made by a Japanese, they are slowly enjoying the spoiler than buying it (maybe).
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