One Piece Chapter 1175: NIDHOGG

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On the cover page, we see Sabo and Koala...with a gaggle of koalas. 3 koalas surround Sabo. Could this foreshadow Sabo being linked to Blackbeard via the number 3? Meh, probably not. But, this IS pretty cute!

Sanji's able to free Robin from her thorn prison pretty easily. Almost trivially so! Feet and bondage...is something on Oda's mind? Kind of interesting that the thorn-vines are ALSO weak to fire, just like Yggdrasil. I know fire is a pretty common counter to plants in general, but I wonder if there's more here?

Loki REFUSES to be a school bus! And...fair enough, honestly. Where is he supposed to take the kids? Every village is fighting these Nightmares. And the tree is on fire. And the Underworld Realm is too cold and full of wild animals for the kids. Other than maybe the Heaven/Astral Realm, I'm not sure where Loki was supposed to take them. I guess the kids are saved...or close enough to it, anyway.

We can see that Loki's dragon form has ankle chains around his feet. So, that's kind of a interesting detail. It kind of makes him look a bit like Bowser from Super Mario Bros. Also, he's chewing on that Nightmare Bird pretty eagerly. I have to wonder...does it taste like chicken?

"You guys sure took your sweet time!" Even Zoro is annoyed by how long that God Valley flashback was.

Sommers is mad that everyone's ruining his fun. And he has a..."Rapid Fire Thorn Launcher". Okay, that's a strange plant. Either there are some plants even weirder than the ones Usopp ran into on Boin, or Sommers can just make anything he likes with his plants. Even fuse them with weapons. I'm not sure if this is a existing plant native to this world, or if it's Sommers' own special creation.

And the Giant Kids. Step. UP! Now, THAT'S a nice moment. I feel like it's going to go under-appreciated with everything else going on. But, the Kids shielding their injured parents from Sommers' attack is just a really good moment for them. The future is in good hands!

And Zoro steps up to save the Kids. Good for you, Zoro! Maybe that was a little too easy for him, but still.

Luffy's turn. And he's making a targeting reticle with his hands. I'm a little surprised Luffy bothered with that. But, I guess it's all in the name of fun. Fun...and GIANT PUNCHES! Sommers takes a Giant, Gear 5, Haki-ed up, Lightning-enhanced punch RIGHT in the face! Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. And the Kid's thorns fall off, so I guess that means blowing off Sommer's head counts as "knocking him out". He's got Regeneration, so he won't be down forever, but he should be down for a while. Especially after Loki smooshes him.

Ripley's the first to comment on Luffy's "White Form". I wonder if that's foreshadowing something? Sommers comments that Nika's just a tall tale meant to frighten children. So, that kind of follows up on Gunko's fear of Nika, a bit. The Celestial Dragons know about Nika AND they're told about him as kids. And it's a "scary story". Whether that's because he could take away their power or something else, it's a little unclear right now.

And we get confirmation that Loki's Fruit IS a Mythical Dragon Fruit Model Nidhogg the Thunder Dragon. So, it's not Legos, like I was thinking. Oh well, too bad for me and my theories, I guess. The size of the Dragon is relative to the size of the person who eats the Fruit. That's a interesting detail. The detail about Nidhogg being able to "turn day into night" seems like it could be important later. Feels like it still could hint at a connection to the Nika Fruit, somehow.

And we learn about the "God of War", who's probably the original Elbaph. He was rivals with the "Sun God", and his partner was the Ice Squirrel Ratatoskr. And the Squirrel ended up "possessing" the "War God"'s weapon, Ragnir, after the "War God" died. It's funny that they don't call the "Sun God" by the name Nika, directly. I suppose it could still be a different incarnation. But, I'm going to assume it's Nika, until proven otherwise.

I guess Ragnir's "Niffelheim" ice attack we saw back in Chapter 1171 was because Ratatoskr is a "Ice Squirrel". So, "Thrudheim" ("Home of Strength", the home of Thor in Norse mythology) is part of Loki's powers, and "Niffelheim" is part of Ratatoskr's powers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrúdheim

And the backstory...doesn't actually clear up the whole "Is Ragnir the Weapon or the Squirrel" problem. Because BOTH existed beforehand. And BOTH ended up "fusing" together, one way or another. Since Ratatoskr took the "War God''s weapon AFTER he died, I feel like this hints that the Squirrel ate a Fruit inspired by Ragnir. The "War God" couldn't have fed his Hammer a Squirrel Devil Fruit, if he was already dead, after all. So "Squirrel eating a Hammer Fruit" is the only way this even sort of makes sense. The original Ragnir Hammer may have been destroyed alongside the "War God". It's weird that a Devil Fruit was created that was inspired by the "War God"'s hammer specifically, though. And it's weird that "Ice Squirrels" exist in the first place. So...could Ratatoskr have eaten a Ice Devil Fruit of some kind...and THEN have fused with Ragnir some other way? So, maybe this is all part of something else, and not something caused by Devil Fruits, at all? This is odd, is what I'm saying.

And Imu...actually isn't phased seeing Luffy in Gear 5. Huh. I thought Imu would have a bigger reaction to seeing that for the first time one way or another. Either terrified or enraged. But Imu actually ignores "Nika" entirely. Imu actually seems a LOT more interested in Loki's Nidhogg form. "It was here all along". So...my best guess is that Loki's Nidhogg is probably connected to the Ancient Weapon Uranos. Similar to how Poseidon is connected to the Sea Kings and Pluton could be connected to Zunesha. Imu probably needs Nidhogg in order to use Uranos better. Imu wants Loki's Nidhogg in order to power up Uranos to it's full potential. At least, that's my best guess, for now. I'll guess we should see, soon.
 
The writing for tension is pretty bad, but Gunkimu is still stronger then anyone on the island by far. Only Loki is confirmed able to hurt her,with Luffy probably getting a confirmation as well. Zoro and Gaban definitely can't though.
There is never ever gonna be a character in One Piece Luffy can hurt but Zoro can't until it is some special ability.
 
You missed the whole Egghead prediction war with me predicting the events of Egghead with 90% accuracy (my only incorrect prediction was that Saturn would live, other than that I was correct on literally everything I predicted)
I didn't remember you predicted Lucci one shotted on guard, healthy Sentomaru while Kizaru couldn't one shot bandaged Sentomaru
I didn't remember you predicted Lucci unlocked Awakening during timeskip while Kizaru's bum ass didn't show awakening during Egghead
I didn't remember you predicted Egghead Lucci is Kizaru level, and he is still growing so EoS Lucci is > any Admiral
 
Bruh, I hope DR Loki doesn't happen.

The thing is, Loki is really powerful since he managed to defeat HK Harald but Imu is someone who easily took the combined attack of 5 top tiers and then lol diffed base Harald's equal. Even HK Harald was just Imu's puppet.

What I'm saying is that the real tension starts when Imgunko starts to pull the heavy hits on the good guys. Everyone vs Imgunko isn't unlikely, even with Loki on their side.

Or Sommers isn't down and both Sommers and Killingham are being occupied by the wings before they're getting destroyed... Well, that's just an issue for Sanji now because I don't see a single possibility that Killingham is a direct threat to Zoro cuz he already controls his CoC.

Let's see how it'll turn out to be.
I can see and understand your point of view. But let's be honest, Imugunko can't handle Loki, Luffy and even Zoro at same time. So Killingham will come and deal with Zoro. Btw Killingham's power is too OP. G5 luffy, Zoro, Zoan Loki everyone are spamming their attacks for some random monsters, he gonna surprise us for sure.

And after that it's either a 2 vs 1 which means Imu is that fucking strong that he can handle Luffy and Loki at the same time or Imu gonna do the same thing as Xebec. Maybe the flashback was there to explain us that Imu can control anyone.

It's so dumb yeah but it's typically Oda. He gonna wank Luffy and Nikka way more than anyone else. And this random legend story ? the ancient god of war faced Nikka ? Oda and his creativity :kriwhat:
I want to know also the real meaning of this drum of liberation ...
 
I do think it’s a cool piece that Lokis fruit is seemingly antithesis to Luffys. Luffy being the rubber man, all white, and who brings people into the sun while Lokis dragon is all black, uses the power of lightning, and brings night where he flies according to Jarul.

Makes sense that these two fruits are needed to defeat the world government
 
Thanks to Luffy excellent advertising of the goat he might get bounty rise without doing much would be hilarious if that happened :milaugh:
When I wrote this in the bounty and spoiler threads I had a few agreeing but also a lot calling it mental derangement. Turns out Luffy wanked Zoro even more than I expected. So I'm eating caviar and they are eating mud now, fuming I bet.


Yeah I agree Luffy praising Zoro this chapter makes no sense. What Zoro achieved against dorry and Broggy was praise worthy but in this chapter he simply blocked some thorns.
I think it's a mix of a few different things.

- Luffy shows leadership. Zoro wants to be regarded as the strongest except for Luffy himself. Stroking his ego is great man management.

- Luffy genuinely believes Zoro is that guy. From Captain Morgan until today Luffy has, rightfully so, seen what Zoro is capable of. He even wondered how the SHP + Wyper could have been defeated vs Enel if Zoro was there.

- Zoro is always supporting Luffy to become PK. Perhaps Luffy is trying to support Zoro to become WSS. Luffy already knows Mihawks and Shanks level - Zoro needs to surpass them and that is indeed a very tall order. Like Mihawk said, PK is even tougher but apart from there is almost no tougher path. Sanji even asked Zoro to quit while Luffy encouraged and supported him.
 
When I wrote this in the bounty and spoiler threads I had a few agreeing but also a lot calling it mental derangement. Turns out Luffy wanked Zoro even more than I expected. So I'm eating caviar and they are eating mud now, fuming I bet.




I think it's a mix of a few different things.

- Luffy shows leadership. Zoro wants to be regarded as the strongest except for Luffy himself. Stroking his ego is great man management.

- Luffy genuinely believes Zoro is that guy. From Captain Morgan until today Luffy has, rightfully so, seen what Zoro is capable of. He even wondered how the SHP + Wyper could have been defeated vs Enel if Zoro was there.

- Zoro is always supporting Luffy to become PK. Perhaps Luffy is trying to support Zoro to become WSS. Luffy already knows Mihawks and Shanks level - Zoro needs to surpass them and that is indeed a very tall order. Like Mihawk said, PK is even tougher but apart from there is almost no tougher path. Sanji even asked Zoro to quit while Luffy encouraged and supported him.
I don't think he glazed Zoro that much. He just told him he did a good job at blocking the thorn bullets before it was too late.
Also Mihawk saying that becoming the PK is tougher than becoming the WSS isn't really a powerscaling thing.
 
I don't think he glazed Zoro that much. He just told him he did a good job at blocking the thorn bullets before it was too late.
Also Mihawk saying that becoming the PK is tougher than becoming the WSS isn't really a powerscaling thing.
Of course the WSS can be PK, like Xebec or Roger could be classified as both, but in general it is of course a power scaling thing. PK is portrayed as a tier even beyond WSS, WSM or WSC. Only guy (hidden) around above PK is Imu.

But I do get what you mean, Mihawk might have meant Luffys super power of making allies out of enemies = PK level ability rather than just strength. So in that case becoming PK is harder than WSS because you need to conquer all other conquerors and get them on your side rather than just defeat them.
 
Of course the WSS can be PK, like Xebec or Roger could be classified as both, but in general it is of course a power scaling thing. PK is portrayed as a tier even beyond WSS, WSM or WSC. Only guy (hidden) around above PK is Imu.

But I do get what you mean, Mihawk might have meant Luffys super power of making allies out of enemies = PK level ability rather than just strength. So in that case becoming PK is harder than WSS because you need to conquer all other conquerors and get them on your side rather than just defeat them.
Not just that, but it's also things like finding someone who can read Poneglyphs and having a great navigator, for example.
Much harder to do than just being absurdly strong, imo, especially since I personally believe Roger is equal to Mihawk in strength.
 
Not a good chapter Imo. Idk why but Oda is really dragging the confrontation with Imu and Luffy/Loki. And I'm not taking the Nika lore seriously as long as it's all vague and silhouette stuff, though it confirms Luffy and Loki will be relative EOS.

Loki acting all Tsundere about saving the kids is also a bit... much. Oda isn't going to actually make him an asshole, so I think it's just goofy rn.
If Luffy managed to destroy the thorns constraining the kids by defeating Sommers, what was the point of Sanji freeing Robin 20 second before that? :hope:

CL⁴⁰oda strikes again
@Julius your fav gets trashed now its a "bad" chapter LOL
 
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