Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1176 Spoilers Discussion

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even the "powercreep" you claimed was shown to be not true. Warlords were easily dealing with Pacifista.

So Oda did try to stay consistent with the established order. Ragnir, Loki and the HKs are characters that exist outside of it
Obviously what I said does not apply to every single character
What I mean is the pecking order went from Lucci being an extreme diff win for Luffy (though Luffy also needed Usopp's help), to Pacifistas being an extreme diff win for the ENTIRE CREW, to those Pacifistas being bullied by people like Urouge and random WBP fodders.
That wasn't to say that every character got powercreeped by the Pacifistas, I'd reckon even fat Moria who was by far the weakest Warlord could manage to beat a couple Pacifistas with his hax, but it was just an example of most pre ts characters being powercreeped by them.
I argue about this with you specifically since you claim that Doflamingo and PH Law couldn't have been powercreeped that fast, but there's a reason why Oda gave Law and Luffy 1B combined from defeating Doffy and then proceeded to introduce characters with 1B and above so as to show that they're the next level and are all above Doffy in their own ways (or at least, a good chunk of them are).
 
Because they’re EoS SH fights, and the weakest SH (Usopp) should be stronger than Yasopp at EoS
Y'all say this but you never want Usopp to do anything to put himself above Yasopp EoS. You constantly shoot down matchups like Usopp vs Killingham and heckle people who say it will happen, and I even saw Soupongo insinuating that Usopp won't 1v1 Van Augur.
None of you actually believe he'll surpass or even match Yasopp in power EoS because none of you will just understand that he's obviously going to have to fight some tough opponents to get to that level.
 
it's exactly that

it's also the reason why he didn't make the Big Mom vs Law and Kid haki based at all, because the other top fight was a haki spam.

Oda has realized his series needs a more unique palette, and his spirit power system takes away from that.

Still even in that haki spam fight he did have them using there DF all the time .
Then G5 get add .
Really haki is only be a add on when you look at the moves during fights with DF users .
Last chapter luffy move had haki but G5 and him taking lightning was the more fun aspect .
 
It gets even crazier. Some of them are even stronger than Doflamingo. KKG was invented for them as KG wasn't enough.
Given the fact that Fattora can't even deal with a human Doflamingo, wouldn't the world be better off with Papazuki as fleet admiral EOS?

It can be a compromise. Oda can have Goofy become the Nika God or whatever, as long as we see Papazuki remain in power.
 
  1. Team Zoro vs Domi Reversi fodder and Sommers
  2. Team Sanji vs nightmare monsters and Killingham
  3. Luffy and Loki vs Imu Gunko
Zoro better mastery of conquerors
Sanji getting conquerors
Luffy sending them back to the holy land like joyboys haki?…

The holy knights leaving doesn’t mean that the Domi Reversi characters leave tho so they’ll still be a threat
So that might mean we’re left with dr Loki and maybe Gaban
Seems to be the most likely outcome at this point. And to toot my own horn:

Zoro actively leading 1.8B Brogy, 1.8B Dorry, New Giants Captain (Super Mercenary, Prince of Elbaph) Hajrudin & New Giants Vice Captain Stansen with his AdCoC definitely puts him a bit beyond 2B. Add that to his prior Elbaph and Egghead feats and I really do see his level at the 3B level.

Sanji is tapping in to his (presumed) CoC for the first time and should reach 2B level.

Jinbei will become the new leader of the Mid level ahead of Robin, Franky & Brook. All of them will be regarded as incredible pirates in their own right so I bet Robin & Brook will also get cool feats.

As for Usopp, Nami & Chopper I've lost all hope. They are like Gloriosa or Stussy of Rocks pirates, GOATS of Grandline level but nothing special at New World level.
 
It gets even crazier. Some of them are even stronger than Doflamingo. KKG was invented for them as KG wasn't enough.
There was exactly 1 animal in the island that KG wasn't strong enough for. KKG defeated him. How is that "stronger" than Doflamingo when Doflamingo was defeated by Law + Luffy landing 30 different attacks including a KKG?

Do you think about what the fuck you write?
 

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There was exactly 1 animal in the island that KG wasn't strong enough for. KKG defeated him. How is that "stronger" than Doflamingo when Doflamingo was defeated by Law + Luffy landing 30 different attacks including a KKG?

Do you think about what the fuck you write?
G4 is so ass, even random wild animals were warding off Kong Guns 😭, how did we ever as a community believe he was ready for the top tiers....it was right infront of us all along.
 
I am fine with the homogenized idea of the 3 forms of haki. Shit like Future sight, barrier haki, maybe even haki blast? Base it off the characters personality. Katakuri having FS should be because he's the brains of the BMP, and he has to look ahead of time to protect his family for ex

And don't get me started in the peak lazyness that is adCoC
The power system get introduce that way so that was the only road he could have gone down .
Beating someone with FS luffy did that shit to a Boa sister even before the timeskip .
Ray should off highest level haki but took luffy hundreds of chapters to learn i guess in world 3 month with life and death fight .
 
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