General & Others Saw something about Shamrock visiting the goose and it never being Shanks. There are a lot of L’s to be handed out for the rat slander if that’s true.

[Impact]

Political rat 🐀

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[Dragon777]

Reality vs Formality, I guess. Can the CD´s technically do what they want? Yes, but it doesn´t mean that´s the political system at hand. The CD´s do kidnap even royals sometimes, but when there´s someone the Gorosei want to protect, like Harald, they can´t try kidnapping him. I mean they can talk about it, but we never saw them try. Shamrock meeting with the Gorosei is the same. Should he be showing up during the reverie? On paper, it´s not his time, but he´s special enough that it´s not a big deal.

I agree on that.

CDs can do "anything" (even though when it's moronic and it shouldn't be allowed by the Gorosei tbh, as when they try to kidnap fuckin royals at the Reverie), unless the Gorosei say no, which seems to be a pretty rare sight considering the Gorosei went from wise plotitians to "men are vermin" kind of nonsense.

It´s not like Shanks isn´t a wanted criminal though. Sengoku was shown listening to Koby´s speech and was a bit disturbed at the idea of all the casualties. He isn´t a good guy, but he isn´t supposed to be a complete CD bootlicker really. Shanks is being a good faith actor, so Sengoku is shown respecting that

I agree on that too. Made only the "because it is you" more specific.

Loki is Haralds son, who was a HK, probably the strongest of all time. He would be a great recruit if he did decide to join, with the world being chaotic post MF.

And on that ok, I'am on board... but why now? Why out of the blue Shamrock went there talking about Loki, someone who has been chained in Erbaf for years? Also in a time when nothing new from Erbaf came.

I agree that now it makes sense it was Loki, but back then it would have been totally out of the blue.

 

[Impact]

Rat goof

 

[Dragon777]

Again, that doesn’t matter. Because the gorosei didn’t say we don’t want you meddling with politics they said someone like him shouldn’t have any care for politics.

Yeah, an Emperor shouldn't have any standing in WG politics. Which was totally sound for me at the time.

Obv. not now anyway.

 

[Impact]

The next one we will crucify is Dragon for being a rat goof

This is the face of a total fraud rat goof lord just like Shanks the rat

 

[soupongo]

Anyway, I think it´s a little cringe for the fact that some Blackbeard fans and I guess admiral/Mihawk fans wanted Shanks to be a bad guy so they can frame it like their favorite antagonists are being victimized. Specifically some Blackbeard fans want to push this, and pretend that Blackbeard and Shanks only have beef because of Garling, which is just a cringe and kind of pathetic interpretation for the characters involved.

 

[Dragon777]

Not to mention guys, the:

Which still doesn't make a speck of sense referred to Shamrock, notoriously living in Marijoa.

 

[Impact]

Another rat goof transexual fraud boi loser he looks like a woman so he's rat girl

And he isn't even strong he's just lucky Garp let him have 1 good attack he's puny look at his little arms I can beat up Koby he's a fraud rat loser!!!!

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Not to mention guys, the:

Which still doesn't make a speck of sense referred to Shamrock, notoriously living in Marijoa.

Mariejoa is massive and shamrock lives in shangri la which isn’t part of the main area of Mariejoa.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

No worries. Bums will keep finding new ways to degrade my guy.

 

[Dragon777]

Mariejoa is massive and shamrock lives in shangri la which isn’t part of the main area of Mariejoa.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

There’s nothing wrong with Shamrock being above the Gorosei

It makes no sense whatsoever.
He wasn't even the one that got promoted when Saturn died lol

 

[Shiroyru]

It makes no sense whatsoever.
He wasn't even the one that got promoted when Saturn died lol

Harald.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

It makes no sense whatsoever.
He wasn't even the one that got promoted when Saturn died lol

Cause his dad was next in line. But shamrock was canonically a special talent on par with shanks.

 

[Dragon777]

Anyway it is what it is.

Just hope Shamrock does something interesting.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Cause his dad was next in line. But shamrock was canonically a special talent on par with shanks.

Even then that just goes to show he's only Yonko level at best. Loki is far above that
Don't give me the "golden boy" nonsense as Oda was comfortable putting Whitebeard and Mihawk above Shanks too.

Harald.

He wasn't meant to be a Gorosei. Not even sure if he himself would've wanted to be one.

 

[zzShinichi]

Let's just agree that everything in that visiting the Gorosei's panels were made for us to believe it was Shanks at first

 

[Shiroyru]

Even then that just goes to show he's only Yonko level at best. Loki is far above that
Don't give me the "golden boy" nonsense as Oda was comfortable putting Whitebeard and Mihawk above Shanks too.

He wasn't meant to be a Gorosei. Not even sure if he himself would've wanted to be one.

Point is a HK can be stronger than a Gorosei. Loki also got an offer to become a HK instead of Gorosei

 

[Dragon777]

Let's just agree that everything in that visiting the Gorosei's panels were made for us to believe it was Shanks at first

Yeah, that could also be It.

Let's say there were hints that one could have used to argue, but most of the scene was clearly hinting at Shanks. I mean, as said: clocked, "all this way", etc. Lol.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

No, they were shocked he was there at all

Cause they didn’t call Garling into their office, not because he didn’t fit there.