Current Events DR Dorry and Broggy vs Zoro and Sanji

#61
Weren't Zoro fans hyping up Killingham while dunking on Sommers for a while?

The last time Zoro and Sanji defeated equal enemies was in Enies Lobby, actually the only time I can recall this happening outside of a group fight. But Oda seems quite locked into the chicken wing aspect now so I expect another one of those.
Kaku and Jabra were not equal. Maybe in 2 piece
 
#63
Lmfaooo classic.

I guess I had it right, I always got the vibe Sommers was the group leader of sorts. At the very least not portrayed below Killingham. Even @Shiroyru tried to get me on board the Killingham train.
They got rattled big mad
Now they know oda is comfortable with sanji clowning potential Zoro opponents they trying to make retarded arguments "ehm actually in anime its a rule that 1 handed attacks are stronger than 2 handed"
This gonna be worse the further we progress

As for Killingham and Sommers, i only find sommers intressting as opponent cause he is fun and intressting written character that would fit a sanji fight. Obviousy if chicken wings fight them oda will not dogwalk them but im overall with @Veku that they seem to be not skilled fighters, like the bumosei which also got blitzed by sanji even getting their attacks stopped even by a saijo.

The only preetabilished threats that seem to be not bums right now are the warlord seraphim, shamrock, kuzan, the admirals, crossguild
 
#64
You could argue Jyabura was slightly ahead, having the experience with a df, being a Lucci rival, and mastering moving tekkei, but it's neither here nor there tbh. Kaku also had his advantages.
The only arc with direct Power system and people want to make up random headcanon and feats. The only advantage he had was fruit which changed when Kaku ate his fruit. Kaku showed better feats and was dodging sneak attacks from Jabra.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#65
They got rattled big mad
Now they know oda is comfortable with sanji clowning potential Zoro opponents they trying to make retarded arguments "ehm actually in anime its a rule that 1 handed attacks are stronger than 2 handed"
This gonna be worse the further we progress

As for Killingham and Sommers, i only find sommers intressting as opponent cause he is fun and intressting written character that would fit a sanji fight. Obviousy if chicken wings fight them oda will not dogwalk them but im overall with @Veku that they seem to be not skilled fighters, like the bumosei which also got blitzed by sanji even getting their attacks stopped even by a saijo
Sanji lowkey made Gandhi look bad on Egghead, his mobility/speed really shined since, Zoro needed a boost from Jimbei and he still couldn't blitz him the way Sanji did from a mile away.

Ultimately though because they have regen Oda is comfortable clowning them. They were doomed from the start, it's the classic anime trope.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#66
The only arc with direct Power system and people want to make up random headcanon and feats. The only advantage he had was fruit which changed when Kaku ate his fruit. Kaku showed better feats and was dodging sneak attacks from Jabra.
Yea it was implied Kaku just barely squeezed past Jyabura in douriki. The order was always Lucci and Jyabura as the top 2, Jyabura was shocked at how strong Lucci had gotten but more importantly "even" Kaku surpassed him in douriki. Though it was by such a tiny amount it's damn near irrelevant. You can def make a case for him given he had his df for years whereas Kaku just got his. But again it's neither here nor there.

And looking back it makes sense why they were so interchangeable and made so ambiguous, Jabura was originally a Zoro opponent. Kaku had a more goofy design which is line with a Sanji opponent, I always found it odd how it was flipped.
 
#67
Sanji lowkey made Gandhi look bad on Egghead, his mobility/speed really shined since, Zoro needed a boost from Jimbei and he still couldn't blitz him the way Sanji did from a mile away.

Ultimately though because they have regen Oda is comfortable clowning them. They were doomed from the start, it's the classic anime trope.
I know that regen opponent are always written this way, thats why i dont really care how many hits sommers or killinghame take. It can even be good imo for the manga, like the way Luffy hit Sommers had a viscreal impact i wished oda would draw more, it was not as raw as the Croco vs Luffy or Lucci vs Luffy but still.

However it Egghead the situation was different as in Oda was comfortable enough to draw that scene, but not Sanji landing a attack on Kizaru

"Kizaru having no regen" is not a argument we also saw Luffy hit him and it dealt 0 damage.

Altho Sanji is to date the first and only one to break kizarus poker face, even something gear 5 couldnt do, so there is that
 
#68
They got rattled big mad
Now they know oda is comfortable with sanji clowning potential Zoro opponents they trying to make retarded arguments "ehm actually in anime its a rule that 1 handed attacks are stronger than 2 handed"
This gonna be worse the further we progress

As for Killingham and Sommers, i only find sommers intressting as opponent cause he is fun and intressting written character that would fit a sanji fight. Obviousy if chicken wings fight them oda will not dogwalk them but im overall with @Veku that they seem to be not skilled fighters, like the bumosei which also got blitzed by sanji even getting their attacks stopped even by a saijo.

The only preetabilished threats that seem to be not bums right now are the warlord seraphim, shamrock, kuzan, the admirals, crossguild
1. Clowning potential Zoro opponents? We don't know if Killinham is going to fight Zoro or not. So its irrelevant and this did 0 damage so not really clowning anything either way.
2. The Gorosei are way stronger than Sanji. You still lying about interaction it seems. I guess I got just post the facts.
Sanji attacks Nusjuro mid swing at someone else then immediately packed up after starts concentrate on him.



Now here is how Saturn dealt with Lanji
Cause he didn't get to sneak him mid swing
 
#69
Yea it was implied Kaku just barely squeezed past Jyabura in douriki. The order was always Lucci and Jyabura as the top 2, Jyabura was shocked at how strong Lucci had gotten but more importantly "even" Kaku surpassed him in douriki. Though it was by such a tiny amount it's damn near irrelevant. You can def make a case for him given he had his df for years whereas Kaku just got his. But again it's neither here nor there.

And looking back it makes sense why they were so interchangeable and made so ambiguous, Jabura was originally a Zoro opponent. Kaku had a more goofy design which is line with a Sanji opponent, I always found it odd how it was flipped.
Once again nonesense headcanon not going by the facts. Kaku had higher Douriki, had better feats, literally was dodging sneaks from Jabra, but we should go by some random headcanon lmao.
 
#70
This guy read i wrote potential, quoted i wrote potential, than typed the sentence out "Clowning potential Zoro opponents?" and than said "We don't know if Killinham is going to fight Zoro or not." as if i said anything else, and i stopped reading

This is why i need to ignore all swordscholars in the future i think, it giving me a actual headache @ZenZu

When i only read in this forum i thought stuff like this was bait but they be just yapping
 
#71
This guy read i wrote potential, quoted i wrote potential, than typed the sentence out "Clowning potential Zoro opponents?" and than said "We don't know if Killinham is going to fight Zoro or not." as if i said anything else, and i stopped reading

This is why i need to ignore all swordscholars in the future i think, it giving me a actual headache @ZenZu

When i only read in this forum i thought stuff like this was bait but they be just yapping
Its irrelevant dumbass if he doesn't fight Zoro. Your whole posts dumb has hell.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#72
This guy read i wrote potential, quoted i wrote potential, than typed the sentence out "Clowning potential Zoro opponents?" and than said "We don't know if Killinham is going to fight Zoro or not." as if i said anything else, and i stopped reading

This is why i need to ignore all swordscholars in the future i think, it giving me a actual headache @ZenZu

When i only read in this forum i thought stuff like this was bait but they be just yapping
Chicken wings being canon has taken a toll on bro.
 
#74
They got rattled big mad
Now they know oda is comfortable with sanji clowning potential Zoro opponents they trying to make retarded arguments "ehm actually in anime its a rule that 1 handed attacks are stronger than 2 handed"
This gonna be worse the further we progress

As for Killingham and Sommers, i only find sommers intressting as opponent cause he is fun and intressting written character that would fit a sanji fight. Obviousy if chicken wings fight them oda will not dogwalk them but im overall with @Veku that they seem to be not skilled fighters, like the bumosei which also got blitzed by sanji even getting their attacks stopped even by a saijo.

The only preetabilished threats that seem to be not bums right now are the warlord seraphim, shamrock, kuzan, the admirals, crossguild
Veku is thinking of it wrong ngl. Oda giving all these characters regen is unironic autism on his part, but he isn´t intending it for the HK to be completely reliant on it. They have to bring something to the table for Imu to sign onto giving them a pact, as opposed to like Charlos or whatever. YC level isn´t really as crazy anymore, they can definitely reach that through their DF´s.
 
#75
Veku is thinking of it wrong ngl. Oda giving all these characters regen is unironic autism on his part, but he isn´t intending it for the HK to be completely reliant on it. They have to bring something to the table for Imu to sign onto giving them a pact, as opposed to like Charlos or whatever. YC level isn´t really as crazy anymore, they can definitely reach that through their DF´s.
Im talking about skill as a fighter, not neccesarly raw strength or df, we saw with King that your race alone can you make YC level, the hks on elbaf being ultimativly YC level would not even surprise me.

Like lets take horse gorosei in egghead for example, and think away all the "regen" moments (which was damaji anyway): Bro arives at egghead, freezes some pacifisa (cool), pulls up to franky and bonney, gets his saijo stopped by base cook, and for the next chapters is unable to kill a literal 12 year old child, despite it being his direct orders.

Or the HKs in elbaf: In every confrontation they seem outmatched. I guess i give some brownie points to Sommers as he blocked some attacks from him but thats it.

Like when i see admirals, pre-ts cp9, enel (who also had regen merchant powers if you think about it) and so on i think damn thats a competent fighter


The ony exception to this so far which is not headcanon is gunko: Gunko actually low diffed half of the crew with her DF abilites alone
 
#76
Im talking about skill as a fighter, not neccesarly raw strength or df, we saw with King that your race alone can you make YC level, the hks on elbaf being ultimativly YC level would not even surprise me.

Like lets take horse gorosei in egghead for example, and think away all the "regen" moments (which was damaji anyway): Bro arives at egghead, freezes some pacifisa (cool), pulls up to franky and bonney, gets his saijo stopped by base cook, and for the next chapters is unable to kill a literal 12 year old child, despite it being his direct orders.

Or the HKs in elbaf: In every confrontation they seem outmatched. I guess i give some brownie points to Sommers as he blocked some attacks from him but thats it.

Like when i see admirals, pre-ts cp9, enel (who also had regen merchant powers if you think about it) and so on i think damn thats a competent fighter


The ony exception to this so far which is not headcanon is gunko: Gunko actually low diffed half of the crew with her DF abilites alone
You literally ignored Saturn neg diffing Sanji and their Haki being hyped up. Villians not being able to kill people will always happen in one piece. Kizaru ain't kill not one Supernova. Fuji didn't really beat anyone on Dressrosa. You also skipped the part where Nusjuro blitz Sanji and bite diff him and cut an top half of the island. Like I said from the start. The HK is just a superior flying 6 with Regen.
 
#77
Lmfaooo classic.

I guess I had it right, I always got the vibe Sommers was the group leader of sorts. At the very least not portrayed below Killingham. Even @Shiroyru tried to get me on board the Killingham train.
Lol we’re still in the Shuffle Piece section of the arc, the characters are gonna be moved around some more. Do you really think Zoro’s gonna spend the rest of the arc fighting fodder giants? Sanji vs Sommers and Zoro vs Killingham is still the most likely matchups imo
 
#78
Im talking about skill as a fighter, not neccesarly raw strength or df, we saw with King that your race alone can you make YC level, the hks on elbaf being ultimativly YC level would not even surprise me.

Like lets take horse gorosei in egghead for example, and think away all the "regen" moments (which was damaji anyway): Bro arives at egghead, freezes some pacifisa (cool), pulls up to franky and bonney, gets his saijo stopped by base cook, and for the next chapters is unable to kill a literal 12 year old child, despite it being his direct orders.

Or the HKs in elbaf: In every confrontation they seem outmatched. I guess i give some brownie points to Sommers as he blocked some attacks from him but thats it.

Like when i see admirals, pre-ts cp9, enel (who also had regen merchant powers if you think about it) and so on i think damn thats a competent fighter


The ony exception to this so far which is not headcanon is gunko: Gunko actually low diffed half of the crew with her DF abilites alone
All 5 Gorosei on Egghead was a bad decision, yeah.

Nusjuro is still a good bit stronger than Sanji, and so are HKs on Elbaf.

I see what you mean though.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#79
Lol we’re still in the Shuffle Piece section of the arc, the characters are gonna be moved around some more. Do you really think Zoro’s gonna spend the rest of the arc fighting fodder giants? Sanji vs Sommers and Zoro vs Killingham is still the most likely matchups imo
It doesn't matter either way, my point was Killingham ain't special for shit. Him and Sommers are in the same playing field, though Killingham does have a powerful caster type ability...I mentioned this earlier, he's better off hiding somewhere and letting his giants fight.
 
#80
It doesn't matter either way, my point was Killingham ain't special for shit. Him and Sommers are in the same playing field, though Killingham does have a powerful caster type ability...I mentioned this earlier, he's better off hiding somewhere and letting his giants fight.
Killingham’s still been given more respect than Sommers though
 
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