Future Events When Will Zolo Complete His Dream of Achieving Green Bull’s Side Quest?

[Dragon777]

Could be to serve as a foil to Zoro if they are meant to fight? Most of Zoro’s blades were earned through his own merit, contrasting Greenbull who may have taken it dishonorably from the wielder postmortem.

Oda has clearly written Greenbull as a character we are meant to hold strong disdain against since his official appearance in Wano.

Greenbull stealing a black blade doesn’t mean he lacks in swordsmanship skills anyway, or that he’s weak.

But it wouldn't need to be black.

I mean, Oda would have to go through the trouble of creating a new black blade forger (and in doing so anyway "reducing" the black blade uniqueness) just because Ryokugyu can have a sword that he doesn't deserve and that is, for him, basically the same as another "white" sword. Then have him steal a Saijo and avoid all these problems.

Seems to me great work and great sacrifice for a little pay-off. Adding another black blade, in the hands of one character, makes sense for me only if you can use it to the fullest, aka during the present time.

 

[GodofDarkness]

Raftel and the war are both intertwined events imo, but anyway I think Zoro could achieve a black blade while fighting Ryokugyu during the war.

I mean yeah Oda already said One Piece ends when the Strawhats find it. One Piece fans really are dumb they can't even read simple statements by Oda. The lurking legend statement debunks Imu and WG as the final antagonists too. Imu has no connection to Whitebeard and no it isn't Kaido and Big Mom alliance either. Oda didn't just say it connected to Whitebeard but also the greatest enemy the Strawhats will ever face. Thus whatever the lurking legend is final boss not some duo already dealt with before the final arcveven begun.

 

[ZenZu]

Doesn't make any sense at all. If he has one, it's because he forged it. If he's not a good swordsman, it doesn't even make sense for Oda give him a sword like that, let alone create a random samurai just for Greenbull to have stolen a sword that he doesn't even use properly.

How does it not make sense? Swords are mostly status symbols, being an Admiral, Oda could just think Greenbull is worthy of owning a black blade. Just as Fujitora is worthy of owning a supreme blade. Him forging it shouldn't be the default assumption, but tbf after Oda randomly revealed Kuzan has Garp lvl punching power, GB forging a Black blade wouldn't even look like that big of a deal in comparison so I could see why you would think he forged one. Prior to Kuzan randomly being a Garp lvl puncher I would have said hell no.

 

[Rumble]

LOL

STILL wriggling out of it.

You lost the argument, now you're going to post nonsense until you think there's a way to save face.

All you're doing is proving you're retarded and insecure about it.

Lol, it's a grass cutter sword. A weak sword in the hands of someone who is not extremely proficient

That + Aramaki's inspiration being skilled with the blade means he likely did forge it

Believing something to be likely is one thing. Knowing it to be true another.

Retards like @Dragon777 don't know the difference.

 

[soupongo]

It’s totally in character for Aramaki to steal a black blade

No it isn´t, you´re literally just making shit up. He´s stolen nothing for his own personal good(besides your headcanon that he tried stealing Whitebeards treasure). This is literally youtube commenters talking about Sakazuki from 2017 tier arguments.

At the least though, acknowledging he obviously has a black blade is a good step, but any assumption about if he made it or not is equally baseless, nothing in the manga has been said either way. Though if we´re going to use a lack of confirmation, the manga hasn´t directly confirmed Mihawk forged a black blade either from what I remember....

 

[Shiroyru]

Lol, it's a grass cutter sword. A weak sword in the hands of someone who is not extremely proficient

That + Aramaki's inspiration being skilled with the blade means he likely did forge it

What if the sword is a literal grass sword and Oda just had to shove in even more green into GB’s design lol

 

[Dragon777]

How does it not make sense? Swords are mostly status symbols, being an Admiral, Oda could just think Greenbull is worthy of owning a black blade. Just as Fujitora is worthy of owning a supreme blade. Him forging it shouldn't be the default assumption, but tbf after Oda randomly revealed Kuzan has Garp lvl punching power, GB forging a Black blade wouldn't even look like that big of a deal in comparison so I could see why you would think he forged one. Prior to Kuzan randomly being a Garp lvl puncher I would have said hell no.

Because the same result could have been easily achieved by giving a Saijo to him, as he did for Fujitora.

The Black Blade doesn't really make sense, in his hands, if he didn't forge it, because at that point for him a black blade or a white blade would make little to no difference. But for the plot, one BB more is a big thing so it's not something Oda could randomly add with no real gain.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

How does it not make sense? Swords are mostly status symbols, being an Admiral, Oda could just think Greenbull is worthy of owning a black blade.

Pre ts Zoro wielded Shusui though?

 

[Shiroyru]

No it isn´t, you´re literally just making shit up. He´s stolen nothing for his own personal good(besides your headcanon that he tried stealing Whitebeards treasure). This is literally youtube commenters talking about Sakazuki from 2017 tier arguments.

At the least though, acknowledging he obviously has a black blade is a good step, but any assumption about if he made it or not is equally baseless, nothing in the manga has been said either way. Though if we´re going to use a lack of confirmation, the manga hasn´t directly confirmed Mihawk forged a black blade either from what I remember....

Isn’t his character literally based off a grave robber?

 

[Dragon777]

You lost the argument, now you're going to post nonsense until you think there's a way to save face.

All you're doing is proving you're retarded and insecure about it.

"You lost the argument" --> keeps running away since the discussion started .

Take the bet, you scaredy cat.

 

[Dragon777]

Retards like @Dragon777 don't know the difference.

Again with the difficulty in understanding simple phrases .

 

[soupongo]

Isn’t his character literally based off a grave robber?

He´s based on an actor who played numerous characters, so idk, did Oda ever say he was based on a specific role in specific?

Anyway, for what we know, Aramaki broke into a pretty important country and had zero interest in anything internal to that country or the Samurai including graves, just Luffy.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Isn’t his character literally based off a grave robber?

Didn't that actor also play a character who's whole thing was that he's secretly a very skilled swordsman?

 

[FutureWarrior123]

But it wouldn't need to be black.

It would need to be if that’s the fight when Zoro forges a black blade.

mean, Oda would have to go through the trouble of creating a new black blade forger (and in doing so anyway "reducing" the black blade uniqueness) just because Ryokugyu can have a sword that he doesn't deserve and that is, for him, basically the same as another "white" sword. Then have him steal a Saijo and avoid all these problems.

Bro, this is the same author that introduced the most important deity in the verse 1000 chapters into the story lol.

 

[Shiroyru]

He´s based on an actor who played numerous characters, so idk, did Oda ever say he was based on a specific role in specific?

Anyway, for what we know, Aramaki broke into a pretty important country and had zero interest in anything internal to that country or the Samurai including graves, just Luffy.

It’s a family heirloom from his Void Century ancestor, John Bull

 

[style]

Lol, it's a grass cutter sword. A weak sword in the hands of someone who is not extremely proficient

That + Aramaki's inspiration being skilled with the blade means he likely did forge it

Aramaki’s inspiration had a wood sword at the beginning of the movie and a stolen sword at the end.
either way not looking well for Aramaki

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

It’s a family heirloom from his Void Century ancestor, John Bull

How does John Bull scale against John Akainu or Bill Borsalino (Kizaru's estranged uncle)

 

[Dragon777]

It would need to be if that’s the fight when Zoro forges a black blade.

Doubt it though.

Bro, this is the same author that introduced the most important deity in the verse 1000 chapters into the story lol.

Ok, totally true, but that had a huge pay-off, we like it or not.

The same huge pay-off I could see if Aramaki was a black blade forger, a character that Oda could "spend" in the final war of the manga fully.

 

[FutureWarrior123]

Doubt it though

That’s fine. I personally envision Zoro already having at least one of his blades black before he fights Mohawk.

Ok, totally true, but that had a huge pay-off, we like it or not.

The same huge pay-off I could see if Aramaki was a black blade forger, a character that Oda could "spend" in the final war of the manga fully.

I honestly don’t know if Greenbull is meant to be that significant of a character in the grand scheme, but in my opinion that doesn’t need to be contingent on the context of his blade blade.

I’ll just say that I don’t see a reason for Admiralbros to weigh heavily on this aspect of the character as an asset to their agenda when all this would really prove is that Greenbull has a dishonorable personality, and not quite as good of a swordsman as Mihawk (which is basically the highest bar).

 

[Dragon777]

That’s fine. I personally envision Zoro already having at least one of his blades black before he fights Mohawk.



I honestly don’t know if Greenbull is meant to be that significant of a character in the grand scheme, but in my opinion that doesn’t need to be contingent on the context of his blade blade.

I’ll just say that I don’t see a reason for Admiralbros to weigh heavily on this aspect of the character as an asset to their agenda when all this would really prove is that Greenbull has a dishonorable personality, and not quite as good of a swordsman as Mihawk (which is basically the highest bar).

About Aramaki's personality, I can just say we might have a big surprise:

Spoiler

D: You know how there was a question in SBS Volume 75 about the admiral candidates?? Well I just figured out the reason behind your final choice of the "Ox" and the "Tiger" so here it is...

→

Hitsujisaru [未申 (坤) - literally "Sheep Monkey"] → Momotaro

Ushitora [丑寅 (艮) - literally "Ox Tiger"] → Kimon [鬼門 - literally "Demon Gate"] → Oni [鬼] (Tiger loincloth, Ox horn)

And the "Oni" in this case would be representing the pirates.

Could the two new admirals "Ryokugyu" and "Fujitora" possibly have been created with the concept that, despite them being people of the Marines, deep down inside they are both Admirals who secretly harbor ill feelings towards the World Government (going against the WG → kind of like pirates?) as can be seen with Fujitora's wish to completely abolish the "Shichibukai" system set up by the World Government? P.N. Tosaka Kouhai

(Translator's Note: The epithets of the first three admirals [Kizaru- literally Yellow Monkey, Akainu- literally Red Dog, and Aokiji- Literally Blue Pheasant] come from the Japanese Legend of Momotaro, where Momotaro befriends a Monkey, Dog, and Pheasant on his journey to defeat an evil Oni in a distant island. This tale is actually based off of Onmyodo derived from the more commonly known Feng-Shui, a traditional Japanese esoteric cosmology, in which the Ox and the Tiger, aka Ushitora, are the two zodiacs positioned in the Northeastern direction of the Onmyodo diagram and considered to be evil or unlucky. In Momotaro, the Tiger and Ox are represented by the evil Oni.)

O: What? Me, becoming restless? (cold sweat) W-w-what are you talking about? Of course not.

Uhhh, well that was one heck of a complicated theory written on this piece of paper. If you want to, go ahead and try to process it. I haven't said a single thing about whether this theory is correct or incorrect, okay! (cold sweat) Just saying. I j-just happened to throw this postcard in, so that I could show my fans the kinds of questions I've been getting and s-stuff.

About the blade, it's not like it really important. I would have never thought he had one, but at this point I think he does.