Super Role Madness Pokemon: I choose you!

1. Do you think as scum he ignored that Flower almost explicitly claimed d1 she'd visit Pot Goblin and went ahead on him, not caring that it could be watched
Flower could be literally anything. Why would he assume watcher?

Why claim Naomi PR if he didn't have to?
Because without that, his only claim is destroying ability of dude who's supposed to get himself confirmed by using them
 
I see your point, but this will probably self resolve at later stages with nkills and stuff. Scum doesn't have to be supper passive, middle of the stake is valid too.

I like such thoughts you presented and I was having such too, but sometimes it's better to have some towncore even with 1 possible infiltrator inside than not have a town core at all. Some scum you catch at later stages.

The game is a marathon, not a sprint.
Yeah but this is why I was still wondering if Naomi was possibly a deepwolf but uh

At least I had the self restraint to not give that harsh of a PR if she’s town
 
I don't have that much to tell you tbh, I'm reading every post you're making. I can't do 20 fronts at once and I'm quite satisfied with how Average guy has been prodding you.

I'm more awaiting what you do out of your own incentive. I don't know what I could ask you about besides "reads" and "elaborate on reads".
I was the first person who prodded him at start of this day phase and so it would make sense he would want to also prod me too.

I gave reads already and elaborated on them on day 1. I will work on updating on my reads once when I read over.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Shui i think despite being a lowposter is still attempting to solve

I don’t want to say I fully think theyre town but they look okay
What do you think of them just blindly accepting Ginger's premise that there is definitely scum between himself, Hayumi and I? Given that he was coming from a position of ignorance.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
They are gut. I'm more used to a town Ratchet scum reading me, giving me a headache when he talks to me and I haven't seen it in this game. Orca and Juice are slots that are very forgettable.
I don't feel like this is very accurate. From memory I have a very good record at reading you correctly, very rarely do I scum read you and you're not scum. Now granted it has been a while but you certainly wouldn't be a slot I would say I'm consistently inaccurate on because I've typically found you an easy read.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
But Naomi is in my POE

I don’t actually understand why ppl tr her so hard
It's volume but also I'm struggling to buy into this suspicion of yours Cryo. Why is Naomi specifically in your PoE? Does her being widely town read not affect your thoughts on that at all? And again I have to come back to why you were open to claiming to her yesterday, not to keep repeating the same point but there is a difference between "uh I don't have much discipline in claiming" and "hey Naomi sweetie would you want me to claim for you uwu", and your post came across more like the last one.

And I can't help but get the sense that your "poe reading" of Naomi is mostly inspired by you getting some pushback on that, so you feel the need to pivot in the opposite direction to dissuade the notion that you were trying to pocket her.

I don't know if all that really makes any sense on a readthrough but that's where my head is at with you. I don't really want you to get too stuck on defending yourself either I want to see townie in some fashion.
 
What do you think of them just blindly accepting Ginger's premise that there is definitely scum between himself, Hayumi and I? Given that he was coming from a position of ignorance.
I didn’t think it was that big of a deal tbh cuz they literally answered by removing themselves from the list and saying “Ratchet or Hayumi”. It looks like they literally saw GB’s post, said “well I’m town so it’s not me” and then called it a day idk
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I didn’t think it was that big of a deal tbh cuz they literally answered by removing themselves from the list and saying “Ratchet or Hayumi”. It looks like they literally saw GB’s post, said “well I’m town so it’s not me” and then called it a day idk
I dunno it doesn't sit well with me. Just the presumption that the statement is accurate is specifically what I find bothersome, I don't understand why he wouldn't at least be a little concerned that he's getting boxed in by scum. Enough to at least seek clarity on where the "box", I.e the three names, comes from. I'll admit the rest of ISO is admittedly okay for him in that the bar is on the ground and he's not buried in hell, but this is also the kind of thing I think he would neglect to consider when he's scum and get caught by it.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
To people voting Crying.

1. Do you think as scum he ignored that Flower almost explicitly claimed d1 she'd visit Pot Goblin and went ahead on him, not caring that it could be watched?
2. Why claim Naomi PR if he didn't have to?
1st one can be explained by a lack of attention to detail (which isn't a very comfortable assumption mind but certainly plausible enough to dismiss thos defence) and as for the 2nd one, WIFOM really. Why is he PR'ing Naomi in the first place? I mean that rhetorically in the sense of, surely there are better targets he could come up with.
 
I don't feel like this is very accurate. From memory I have a very good record at reading you correctly, very rarely do I scum read you and you're not scum. Now granted it has been a while but you certainly wouldn't be a slot I would say I'm consistently inaccurate on because I've typically found you an easy read.
This was from my memory on what I remembered about a town you scum reading me. This was a long time ago too. I became paranoid since you weren't scum reading me.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
This was from my memory on what I remembered about a town you scum reading me. This was a long time ago too. I became paranoid since you weren't scum reading me.
Yeah and I'm saying I don't think it's even remotely accurate. I'm not going to claim I've never ever misread you or scum read you when you were town because that would be silly, but I definitely know it wasn't to the frequency where you can (or should) reasonably be expecting me to be scum reading you when you're town. If I'm feeling charitable then the only real explanation I can see for this from you is that being misread has a far deeper impression on you than being correctly read, so much so that you would almost completely ignore the existence of all the other times I've correctly read you to expect to be scum read.

It's one you're going to need to go back to the drawing board on I'm afraid because it's just wrong. That's the politest way I can put it.
 
It's volume but also I'm struggling to buy into this suspicion of yours Cryo. Why is Naomi specifically in your PoE? Does her being widely town read not affect your thoughts on that at all? And again I have to come back to why you were open to claiming to her yesterday, not to keep repeating the same point but there is a difference between "uh I don't have much discipline in claiming" and "hey Naomi sweetie would you want me to claim for you uwu", and your post came across more like the last one.

And I can't help but get the sense that your "poe reading" of Naomi is mostly inspired by you getting some pushback on that, so you feel the need to pivot in the opposite direction to dissuade the notion that you were trying to pocket her.

I don't know if all that really makes any sense on a readthrough but that's where my head is at with you. I don't really want you to get too stuck on defending yourself either I want to see townie in some fashion.
Naomi is in my POE because I read through her ISO and was left unconvinced they were town. I have a higher bar for calling ppl who have deceived me before as wolf to call them town.

her being widely tr’d is why I didn’t target her with something worse. Cuz I have been wrong before, but I for the life of me failed to tr Naomi in my ISO’ing.

Also for the last question I don’t think I’m understanding. Were you thinking I was trying to be like “hey Naomi look at how townie I am by full-claiming the Pokémon you submitted” followed by “oh no I failed so now Naomi is POE forever”?
 
Naomi is in my POE because I read through her ISO and was left unconvinced they were town. I have a higher bar for calling ppl who have deceived me before as wolf to call them town.

her being widely tr’d is why I didn’t target her with something worse. Cuz I have been wrong before, but I for the life of me failed to tr Naomi in my ISO’ing.

Also for the last question I don’t think I’m understanding. Were you thinking I was trying to be like “hey Naomi look at how townie I am by full-claiming the Pokémon you submitted” followed by “oh no I failed so now Naomi is POE forever”?
Why have you failed to tr Naomi? What is it that prevents you from doing so?
 
I dunno it doesn't sit well with me. Just the presumption that the statement is accurate is specifically what I find bothersome, I don't understand why he wouldn't at least be a little concerned that he's getting boxed in by scum. Enough to at least seek clarity on where the "box", I.e the three names, comes from. I'll admit the rest of ISO is admittedly okay for him in that the bar is on the ground and he's not buried in hell, but this is also the kind of thing I think he would neglect to consider when he's scum and get caught by it.
Not sure if you’ve caught up with my posts but I essentially feel the exact same and had similar conclusion. What do you find from him in his ISO that you like, anything in particular?

Are you pinged enough by him that I can interest in you in lending a vote that direction for now with me or is it not to that level?

If not Shui, who are you interested in lynching today?
 
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