We ain't discussing if Mihawk and Ryuma are "frauds", we're discussing the argument of having a kokuto means you're the strongest. So if you have characters as Harald, Xebec, Roger etc, characters who are EXPLICITY the ACoC masters, how can they not being "able" to forge a kokuto?
But okay, you told me we still have to see the process of forging a black blade to have sure, right?
Now here's the thing, you claim we still have to see how black blades are forged, but at the same time you claim only the "very strongest" can have it lol.
Don't you folks think you guys are at very least, mistaken and intransigent in your statements?