Speculations Oda didn’t retcon HK regeneration

[Monkey D Theories]

Due to this scene, a lot of people think that Oda somehow retconned HK regeneration. However this is blatantly untrue.

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We know this because in the very same chapter, Imunko was shown regrowing parts of their body that Usopp blew up.

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Why could Imunko easily regenerate from Usopp while Qilingham couldn’t regenerate from Sanji? The answer is easy and it’s one we were already told, haki.

Sanji likely has stronger haki than Qilingham. He is almost guaranteed to be a CoC user in the future. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sanji actually unconsciously used ACoC when fighting Qilingham, and that’s why he couldn’t fully regenerate.

In any case, it’s not a coincidence that regeneration only fails when weak HKs are faced with strong characters, as opposed to the opposite.

Imu’s regen wasn’t easily countered. Neither was Harald or the Gorosei’s. Just the bum knights like Sommers and Qilingham that had issues.

 

[Jackteo]

Due to this scene, a lot of people think that Oda somehow retconned HK regeneration. However this is blatantly untrue.

Spoiler

We know this because in the very same chapter, Imunko was shown regrowing parts of their body that Usopp blew up.

Spoiler

Why could Imunko easily regenerate from Usopp while Qilingham couldn’t regenerate from Sanji? The answer is easy and it’s one we were already told, haki.

Sanji likely has stronger haki than Qilingham. He is almost guaranteed to be a CoC user in the future. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sanji actually unconsciously used ACoC when fighting Qilingham, and that’s why he couldn’t fully regenerate.

In any case, it’s not a coincidence that regeneration only fails when weak HKs are faced with strong characters, as opposed to the opposite.

Imu’s regen wasn’t easily countered. Neither was Harald or the Gorosei’s. Just the bum knights like Sommers and Qilingham that had issues.

It is a retcon and a pretty bad one since it results in a massive nerf for HKs and Gorosei. Sanji is CoCless. Let's move on

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Sanjis attack just stopped the holy knight regeneration. Holy knights can still reattach body parts as we saw with Sommers this chapter and earlier, but full regeneration is what Sanji and Luffy stopped

 

[Monkey D Theories]

It is a retcon and a pretty bad one since it results in a massive nerf for HKs and Gorosei. Sanji is CoCless. Let's move on

Sanji basically did the same thing as Gaban.

Sommers’ hand should have regrown, just as Qilingham’s body/head should have regenerated(just as Imunko’s did when Usopp attacked them).

the fact it didn’t meant that Sanji used ACoC like Luffy and Gaban.

 

[Shiroyru]

Sanjis attack just stopped the holy knight regeneration. Holy knights can still reattach body parts as we saw with Sommers this chapter and earlier, but full regeneration is what Sanji and Luffy stopped

Stop the cope, Sommers straight up regrew his hand that Gaban cut off with ACoC

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Stop the cope, Sommers straight up regrew his hand that Gaban cut off with ACoC

After he was able to reattach his body and get up despite the hand being what disappeared first

 

[Fn Lucci]

Sommers got his hand cut clean off by Haki boss Gaban.

Killingham got the living shit beat out of him by Franky, Jinbe, and Sanji

Gunko with Imu powers healed from... USOPP

IDK what y'all want lmao

 

[Jackteo]

Sanji basically did the same thing as Gaban.

Sommers’ hand should have regrown, just as Qilingham’s body/head should have regenerated(just as Imunko’s did when Usopp attacked them).

the fact it didn’t meant that Sanji used ACoC like Luffy and Gaban.

ACoC attacks seems to be able to hurt them. Kilingham looks fine, even though in pieces

After he was able to reattach his body and get up despite the hand being what disappeared first

Do you really think their regeneration worked like that before the flashback? If part of their body gets destroyed they can grow it back just fine, if it is just detached they have to run around fetching each piece? Worst regeneration dynamic ever

 

[Sir Yasheen]

ACoC attacks seems to be able to hurt them. Kilingham looks fine, even though in pieces


Do you really think their regeneration worked like that before the flashback? If part of their body gets destroyed they can grow it back just fine, if it is just detached they have to run around fetching each piece? Worst regeneration dynamic ever

I’m saying oda has consistently showed that when attacks bypass the regeneration, the HKs are still able to piece their bodies back together. However, they can’t regenerate for a while.

 

[Julius]

Sanjis attack just stopped the holy knight regeneration. Holy knights can still reattach body parts as we saw with Sommers this chapter and earlier, but full regeneration is what Sanji and Luffy stopped

True

Sanji even says there is a way to stop them FOR GOOOD

Which means he already figured something out about himself, but still can't stop them for goood

 

[Sir Yasheen]

True

Sanji even says there is a way to stop them FOR GOOOD

Which means he already figured something out about himself, but still can't stop them for goood

Yeah for that he seems like he’s clearly referring to Harald who was killed.

Sanji can clearly stop the HK regen, but not kill them

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

killingham's regen wasn't properly countered. he's just not regenerating instantly
not any different from how ju peter was sliced by dorry and brogy and didn't return for a few pages

 

[Sir Yasheen]

killingham's regen wasn't properly countered. he's just not regenerating instantly
not any different from how ju peter was sliced by dorry and brogy and didn't return for a few pages

It’s been 2 chapters now and he’s still just a head. Let it go, it got countered

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

It’s been 2 chapters now and he’s still just a head. Let it go, it got countered

In verse it was like two minutes that passed lol. Just like Sommers came back eventually, he will too. Their regen hasn't been countered yet- Oda isn't just having that happen out of nowhere without any real emphasis on it.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

In verse it was like two minutes that passed lol. Just like Sommers came back eventually, he will too. Their regen hasn't been countered yet- Oda isn't just having that happen out of nowhere without any real emphasis on it.

It’s been way longer. Killingham got one shot before a single DR Giant got defeated. And before Usopp even made it to Imu. How long does Killingham have to remain a head for you to just accept you were wrong

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

How long does Killingham have to remain a head for you to just accept you were wrong

That'd have to be a pretty long time.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Stop the cope, Sommers straight up regrew his hand that Gaban cut off with ACoC

Not immediately. It took him a long time.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

That'd have to be a pretty long time.

He’s been down as long as Sommers so we at least have someone to compare him with.

(Not that we can’t already compare it to the HK that healed instantly anyways)

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

He’s been down as long as Sommers so we at least have someone to compare him with.

(Not that we can’t already compare it to the HK that healed instantly anyways)

Again, they don't just heal instantly from any old attack
What's important is that we already see Killingham sort of regenerating even in the page where Jinbe holds his head. His regen isn't actually countered, he's just not regenerating immediately.
Nobody on Elbaf besides Loki can actually stop the regen right now.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Again, they don't just heal instantly from any old attack
What's important is that we already see Killingham sort of regenerating even in the page where Jinbe holds his head. His regen isn't actually countered, he's just not regenerating immediately.
Nobody on Elbaf besides Loki can actually stop the regen right now.

We saw the same of Sommers who took CoC to the face. Both regens are countered. And stopping regen and killing the HK is two different things as Gaban stated