but then we get to the point that you keep rejecting despite it being very true.

you (plural) make it hard to take you seriously if inbetween your nice vision you have for society ( which as i mentioned in the previous posts is a little naive and too utopian) you say stupid shit like "there is no biological sex" or call everyone and their mothers racists, sexists, ableists, and whatnot. This isnt motivating people to join your cause. And while i agree that its a stupid reaction to then vote right-leaning against your interests because of very specific disagreements you cant just cant get over, people fucking do it. And the saddest is that the bad aspects mentioned above usually come from a vocal minority.
Is that all I'm doing?


No indeed. I agree. This is not motivating. This is why I'm trying to find a different way. Not that these things are not necessary, they are. But I believe there is a way to convince you and I'm trying to find it here.

People don't say this things because saying these things allows for the politicization of people. That's what I explained in an early thread.

Naming a problem that is invisible creates knowledge of the problem massively. Through conflictuality, yes, but effectively. What happens when we don't call out behavior or when we don't labels? Well.. said behavior become invisible. We consider that we are free from doing harm to others, we believe that we are "out of the loop". But reality is not that kind. Domination can enters spaces you don't even think about. (the racism of lgbtqi+, the ableism of people of color, the sexism of non-valid people etc.). Labels, on the left, are not here to destroy, they are here to inform and to stay alert.

Yes, maybe we should be more open to change, but it's impossible if people in front of us don't recognize the dominations they are perpetuating.

So here. I'm choosing to do that DESPITE the domination you people are perpetuating. I'm choosing to stay and to keep talking to all of you until someone finally understand what i'm talking about. It's an impossible task, I don't know what to do, I don't even know if its possible. But I have to believe that if I keep trying new ways, someone will finally stop and say ... "wait... maybe I was wrong and what you say is not that stupid".

Yes I label. but I also stay here and I don't give up on trying to talk to you. This is something you will hardly find on the left. People don't have my time or patience.

What I wish is for us to find - as a group - a way to reach the gap of biases that prevents people to really understand ethics and materialism.

my close social circle isnt really all that interested in politics at all. The one with the most interest is my stepfather that i occasionally talk about, who is into crazy conspiracy theories. And the information he spreads is ass
It's not only about politics, it can be about many things. My point is that a strong environement social group will create more likelyness to spread informations faster. On contrary, a famous person, even if you like them, will be less likely to make you change. Revolutions start on the peripheries.
 
Very easy to advocate for violence from the comfort of your home miles away from the actual victims.

If Natives were to "fight" for this nebulous land they would be slaughtered, specially under a right wing government
Very easy to call "delusionnal" people whose rights are constantly attacked, from the confort of your home. Natives don't have to wait for the far right to arrive to suffer the wrath of post-colonialism.

And they fight as they wish to fight.
 
Very easy to call "delusionnal" people whose rights are constantly attacked, from the confort of your home. Natives don't have to wait for the far right to arrive to suffer the wrath of post-colonialism.

And they fight as they wish to fight.
And they don’t wish to because they realize they’d be slaughtered.

and yes, if they think they deserve “land” centuries after the fact they’re delusional. Might as well tell the Greeks to take back Anatolia
 
So here. I'm choosing to do that DESPITE the domination you people are perpetuating. I'm choosing to stay and to keep talking to all of you until someone finally understand what i'm talking about. It's an impossible task, I don't know what to do, I don't even know if its possible. But I have to believe that if I keep trying new ways, someone will finally stop and say ... "wait... maybe I was wrong and what you say is not that stupid".
Again this issue of you thinking we dont get what you are saying when its really just disagreement.
 
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