ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
@kekaro I'm not saying there can't be a connection between Dragon and Akainh. Just that Marineford is a weak connection at best. It can easily just be Akainu naturally referring to Luffy as Dragon's son for the reasons I stated.

Could there be something more? Maybe...does there have to be? Absolutely not.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
But you just argued he was laser focused on Ace and Luffy only cause they are the future, whats Ace being a weakling that does even lose to pre-ts bb matter?
I dont know you can interpret it this way, for me its clear that oda conencting dragon narrativly to akainu, the strucutre i already mentioned it post-ts supports that aswell
Nope you missed the point. Ace was not seen as a wet behind the ears weakling. He was a quite respected commander of the WBP. Akainu was nipping the future potentials in the bud, does not mean they were in the same exact stage of their careers.

Luffy was supposed to be portrayed as a toddler in the MF war. This was intentional. Oda wants to show his readers that Luffy wasn't ready for this stage. Akainu not even referring to him by his name was intentional disrespect. He was not worthy of it yet.
 
Nope you missed the point. Ace was not seen as wet behind the ears weakling. He was quite respected commander of the WBP. Akainu was nipping the future potentials in the bud, does not mean they were in the same exact stage of their careers.

Luffy was supposed to be portrayed as a toddler in the MF war. This was intentional. Akainu not even referring to him by his name was intentional disrespect. He was not worthy of it yet.
I didnt miss the point i just dont agree with it. Both Ace and Luffy were there in front of him, he choose Luffy

We will see in the next few arcs
 
Well we kind of already saw. Akainu has been referring to Luffy as Strawhat now. So what I was saying is already true. He respects him enough to call him by his own epithet.

Now can it hint at multiple things? Sure. Does it have to? No.
Well yeah obviously its a temporary thing when it was appropriate in the story, he is not gonna call him strawhat nor dragons son either when he is once surpassed Roger i imagine by becoming PK, just like he calls roger roger

Im not saying it just because of that but because all of the other context clues i listed.

Dragon revealed to be a deserter of the marines like the first guy he shown to melt is just adding on to that
 
WB was present in Marineford, yet Akainu was clearly concerned with killing Dragons Son

Regardless if you think its a personal connection or not, in the story oda connected him to dragon, otherwise he would not forced it that much

also post-ts they occupy the same role narratively, sitting and doing nothing


Hell in egghead they even failed to stop Kuma page for page lmao
It unfortunately seems Akainu's animus for Dragon is purely along on the lines of Marine and Revolutionary, without much of a personal component.

I don't know why Oda thought it was good idea for Dragon to have quit the Marines after his first outing.

It just would've been better if he and Akainu were former brothers in arms.
 
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It unfortunately seems Akainu's animus for Dragon is purely along on the lines of Marine and Revolutionary, without much of a personal.

I don't know why Oda thought it was good idea for Dragon to have quit the Marines after his first outing.

It just would've been better if he and Akainu were former brothers in arms.
I guess it was something oda wanted to initially but couldnt with the story without making dragons character (even more) of a joke
With how comicly evil WG is portrayed after post-ts and how complicit most of the marines were in it you cant salvage dragon if he was there for years.

I guess there was an alternative that dragon was in outpost where he was secluded from all that but oda probally cut it out for time reasons

I myself would also have found it better if he had deeper ties to the marines beside being Garps son
 
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