Questions & Mysteries Some detail about BB's crew

[centurion]

The first half of his crew (OG) and the fodder subordinates refer to him as "Commodore"

While the second half of his crew (Impel Down escapees + Kuzan) simply refer to him by his name, they're not paying respect to his title

Does this imply they're not as loyal as the OG members and may betray him later in the future?

It might be another Rocks situation where the crew is full of outlaws who don't trust each other and simply joined forces for a mutual agenda and shared goal...

 

[blackjack]

dont know about fodder, his crew and the revolutionary army look like they are fodder, but they have to be strong enough to have 4 admirals occupied according to the latest chapter.

 

[kekaro]

The first half of his crew (OG) and the fodder subordinates refer to him as "Commodore"

While the second half of his crew (Impel Down escapees + Kuzan) simply refer to him by his name, they're not paying respect to his title

Does this imply they're not as loyal as the OG members and may betray him later in the future?

It might be another Rocks situation where the crew is full of outlaws who don't trust each other and simply joined forces for a mutual agenda and shared goal...

Intressting detail, is that consistent through the whole manga?

 

[centurion]

Intressting detail, is that consistent through the whole manga?

I'd have to do a whole re-readthrough just to 100% double check, but yes that seems to be the case

some extra notes:

1- Teach has only been called Commodore AFTER the timeskip but not before (his OG crew used to call him Captain / Sensho back then)

2- The latest anime episode 1156 emphasizes this even more by adding 2 new lines for Burgess and Devon that were NOT in the manga

>Burgess tells BB to look through the window to see the fodders cheering for him and uses the word Commodore / Teitoku

>Devon tells Pizarro they brought Caribou along because "Teach wanted it" she used his name not his title again

 

[kekaro]

I'd have to do a whole re-readthrough just to 100% double check, but yes that seems to be the case

some extra notes:

1- Teach has only been called Commodore AFTER the timeskip but not before (his OG crew used to call him Captain / Sensho back then)

2- The latest anime episode 1156 emphasizes this even more by adding 2 new lines for Burgess and Devon that were NOT in the manga

>Burgess tells BB to look through the window to see the fodders cheering for him and uses the word Commodore / Teitoku

>Devon tells Pizarro they brought Caribou along because "Teach wanted it" she used his name not his title again

Pretty big if true, seems way too deliberate to be coincedence if the case. Could be a betrayal plot but certainly i think oda is planning something than

 

[MonochromeYoru]

makes sense that the og members are the loyal ones


Janitor was talking about disbanding if bb failed to take wb's df

Spoiler

But i don't think they will betray. They wont get the chance. The underlings always get defeated before the boss

 

[centurion]

Another bit to add, but in chapter 1087, Pizarro was pissed off that BB (his own captain) was hogging all the spotlight and wanted to take some credit for himself instead

Does a loyal crew member say something like this? Can you imagine Zoro getting pissed off because Luffy's bounty keeps increasing?

You gotta remember some of these folks are former level 6 Impel Down prisoners who were locked up for the most heinous crimes, so backstabbing seems normal to expect here, right?

But we'll see how Oda goes with it...

 

[Kair0s1]

There's a difference between the Rocks pirates and those who follow BB. Teach has made his crew part of his plan, everyone knows about Imu and what their captain intends to do to take over the world. Xebec never even mentioned Imu to Harald, even though he knew Harald intended to ally with the WG.
BB's crew is way more invested in their captain's plan than the RP ever were, but they would betray Teach at the first mistake. Something WB or others would never have done to Xebec.

 

[D. Plant]

Interesting details, probably same like Xebec. Half of them are considered good relationship and the other half are all for themselves.

 

[centurion]

but they would betray Teach at the first mistake. Something WB or others would never have done to Xebec.

Except WB literally abandoned his captain as soon as he noticed he got bigger, grew wings, fangs, and attacked his crew out of nowhere when he never did that before...

Only Garp and Roger somehow figured out something was wrong with him but not his own crew? Nope, they immediately run away...

I could care less about Laido or Big Meme but WB doing that was really in bad taste for Loda to write.

 

[Kair0s1]

Except WB literally abandoned his captain as soon as he noticed he got bigger, grew wings, fangs, and attacked his crew out of nowhere when he never did that before...

Only Garp and Roger somehow figured out something was wrong with him but not his own crew? Nope, they immediately run away...

I could care less about Laido or Big Meme but WB doing that was really in bad taste for Loda to write.

They think they were betrayed by Xebec. Roger and Garp could hear Xebec’s voice, which is why they sensed something was off.
I agree it’s weird that they didn’t realize the truth, because it was pretty obvious Xebec was under the influence of some power, but that’s what happened.

 

[Chiji_]

Ofc the day ones are more loyal but I also believe the new recruits are the strongest. Fitting for someone like Blackbeard that cuts corners, he got quick cheap power but if anything goes south they would abandon him but his day ones will ride with him to the end.

 

[vikas]

Nah it's BB who will betray the crew to become a nika worshipper.

 

[ZenZu]

Pretty big if true, seems way too deliberate to be coincedence if the case. Could be a betrayal plot but certainly i think oda is planning something than

I mean those were established lvl 6 Captains in their own right. Plus Shiryu and Kuzan. It's pretty obvious there is a difference between these recruits and the day 1s.

We should not expect any of the new recruits to be loyal when shit really hits the fan. They're mostly in it because it's the most comfortable situation for them. It's probably gonna mirror Xebec's situation somewhat.

 

[soupongo]

I agree in theory that anyone Teach recruited after Jaya is probably not particularly loyal to him, while the Van Aguar types actually are, and have known him for a good amount of time, possibly before he even made the crew. That'll be a great flashback imo.

However, I think there's pretty much zero plot reason for any of the newer recruits to betray him. This isn't like Game of thrones or something, a random pirate traitor can't do much unless they're here to help the good guys. I think Oda is just portraying that they're a more "realistic" pirate crew where everyone is just an opportunist after their own personal goals.