Why do people keep saying this

Stop comparing Loki to Yamato. Loki is an endgame character, he has one of the two fruits that Rocks needed to overthrow Imu

He’s an endgame character. There’s a very real chance Zoro and Sanji never even hit his level
I can think what I want, can I? I feel like this right now, and we still haven't seen Sanji and Zoro power up.
 
Imagine Shanks clapping Loki fairly when mister "always bet on in 1 vs 1": doesn't have a SINGLE fair win in duel against a top tier.
People may not like it, but Kaido definitely knows how strong Shanks was when he said that, they literally fought lol.

Now his older bro, and the Champ could potentially gain some points by hunting magikarp...
 
I thought Yamato was overrated back in Wano but I don't understand the recent downplay tbh
Aside from Sanji kicking Kizaru laser beam away, I don't think the wings did anything she would fail to do
She’s obviously stronger than post-Wano Zoro and Sanji, which is why Oda had to pull the same trick he did with Jinbe and delay her joining until after they get their Elbaf powerups against Omen Sommers and Killingham
 
I can think what I want, can I? I feel like this right now, and we still haven't seen Sanji and Zoro power up.
You make it sound like I’m forcing you to change your opinion. I’m simply sharing how I feel about what you said

You’re approaching Loki’s character in a way that Oda never intended. For one, if Loki isn’t joining the crew then what makes you believe Zoro and Sanji need to surpass him? The narrative has set the precedent that Z/S need to be the strongest in Luffy’s crew. Not that they need to be Luffy’s strongest allies period
 
You make it sound like I’m forcing you to change your opinion. I’m simply sharing how I feel about what you said

You’re approaching Loki’s character in a way that Oda never intended. For one, if Loki isn’t joining the crew then what makes you believe Zoro and Sanji need to surpass him? The narrative has set the precedent that Z/S need to be the strongest in Luffy’s crew. Not that they need to be Luffy’s strongest allies period
I think it's because there never been an ally like Loki, people are used to arc only characters that are not longer relevant after it.
I guess there's Law, but while his fruit is plot relevant it doesn't have the same type of narrative as Niddhog.
 
@Roo @Kurozumi Wiwi Reminder that BASE Yamato got similar AP portrayal to Snakeman

Yamato is cracked, on paper she should honestly be Admiral level with everything she has (Oni genes, ACoC, and an Awakened Mythical Zoan). The only reason she isn’t is because of plot
Yamato fights Kaido for Oden, a man she never met

Shanks doesn´t fight Kaido for Oden, a man he met and claimed was a friend, while claiming to not forgive anyone who harms his friends.

Yikes
 
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