Anime & Manga One Piece Spoilers - The Waiting Room

[Roo]

Well it's better than what Zoro did (and obviously what Sanji would have done in that position). Oda even made Zoro talk about not being able to put Kaido on his knees and Yamato did it some chapter later.

That was after Law gave him a cardiac arrest and Zoro a papercut

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I thought Yamato was overrated back in Wano but I don't understand the recent downplay tbh
Aside from Sanji kicking Kizaru laser beam away, I don't think the wings did anything she would fail to do

 

[Roo]

I don´t see why he wouldn´t get owned in a similar situation. It´s not like he has some abnormal durability or whatever.

I mean surely the “flee on sight” had an exception for fake Jinchuuriki

 

[Raiden7]

Why do people keep saying this

Stop comparing Loki to Yamato. Loki is an endgame character, he has one of the two fruits that Rocks needed to overthrow Imu

He’s an endgame character. There’s a very real chance Zoro and Sanji never even hit his level

I can think what I want, can I? I feel like this right now, and we still haven't seen Sanji and Zoro power up.

 

[soupongo]

Imagine Shanks clapping Loki fairly when mister "always bet on in 1 vs 1": doesn't have a SINGLE fair win in duel against a top tier.

People may not like it, but Kaido definitely knows how strong Shanks was when he said that, they literally fought lol.

Now his older bro, and the Champ could potentially gain some points by hunting magikarp...

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Half true, but being used as a hypetool for Imu also applies to Rocks and the other GV pirates

as long as Loki does better, we´re profiting

Remember, his ceiling is losing to shanks and being dragged home and grounded by him

shanks—the 3rd strongest Figarland

 

[Shiroyru]

I thought Yamato was overrated back in Wano but I don't understand the recent downplay tbh
Aside from Sanji kicking Kizaru laser beam away, I don't think the wings did anything she would fail to do

She’s obviously stronger than post-Wano Zoro and Sanji, which is why Oda had to pull the same trick he did with Jinbe and delay her joining until after they get their Elbaf powerups against Omen Sommers and Killingham

 

[Roo]

She’s obviously stronger than post-Wano Zoro and Sanji, which is why Oda had to pull the same trick he did with Jinbe and delay her joining until after they get their Elbaf powerups against Omen Sommers and Killingham

She’s not joining the crew

 

[soupongo]

Remember, his ceiling is losing to shanks and being dragged home and grounded by him

shaks—the 3rd strongest Figarland

He´s going to do better against Imu than anyone has in the last 800 years though

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

She’s obviously stronger than post-Wano Zoro and Sanji, which is why Oda had to pull the same trick he did with Jinbe and delay her joining until after they get their Elbaf powerups against Omen Sommers and Killingham

@ZenZu argued that Zoro mid diffs Yamato not that long ago 😂😂😂

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

He´s going to do better against Imu than anyone has in the last 800 years though

Cause nobody else fought the real deal in that time period, he’s about to be immediately overshadowed by Luffy’s performance

 

[Shiroyru]

@Roo @Kurozumi Wiwi Reminder that BASE Yamato got similar AP portrayal to Snakeman

Yamato is cracked, on paper she should honestly be Admiral level with everything she has (Oni genes, ACoC, and an Awakened Mythical Zoan). The only reason she isn’t is because of plot

 

[Welkin]

I can think what I want, can I? I feel like this right now, and we still haven't seen Sanji and Zoro power up.

You make it sound like I’m forcing you to change your opinion. I’m simply sharing how I feel about what you said

You’re approaching Loki’s character in a way that Oda never intended. For one, if Loki isn’t joining the crew then what makes you believe Zoro and Sanji need to surpass him? The narrative has set the precedent that Z/S need to be the strongest in Luffy’s crew. Not that they need to be Luffy’s strongest allies period

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

@Roo @Kurozumi Wiwi Reminder that BASE Yamato got similar AP portrayal to Snakeman

Yamato is cracked, on paper she should honestly be Admiral level with everything she has (Oni genes, ACoC, and an Awakened Mythical Zoan). The only reason she isn’t is because of plot

That’s a downgrade, Snakeman can’t one shot Zoan Ulti with any attack. Hes speed not power

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

@Roo @Kurozumi Wiwi Reminder that BASE Yamato got similar AP portrayal to Snakeman

Yamato is cracked, on paper she should honestly be Admiral level with everything she has (Oni genes, ACoC, and an Awakened Mythical Zoan). The only reason she isn’t is because of plot

Yamato is clearly mean to be low top tier, which is not something I can say confidently with the wings

 

[Dragon777]

Yamato looked better than Sanji and Zoro in wano.

Now in Elbaph they probably are stronger.

Now the same is happening with Loki.

The wings just need one/two arcs to surpass them.

When?

Zoro, before even unlocking CoC for real, gave Kaido a scar; in Erbaf his strongest mode was neg diffed by Imu.

 

[Shiroyru]

That’s a downgrade, Snakeman can’t one shot Zoan Ulti with any attack. Hes speed not power

This is post-ACoC Snakeman. Snakeman’s AP is above G2 at the very least, so Awakened Hybrid Yamato’s AP should scale to G3 at least

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

You make it sound like I’m forcing you to change your opinion. I’m simply sharing how I feel about what you said

You’re approaching Loki’s character in a way that Oda never intended. For one, if Loki isn’t joining the crew then what makes you believe Zoro and Sanji need to surpass him? The narrative has set the precedent that Z/S need to be the strongest in Luffy’s crew. Not that they need to be Luffy’s strongest allies period

I think it's because there never been an ally like Loki, people are used to arc only characters that are not longer relevant after it.
I guess there's Law, but while his fruit is plot relevant it doesn't have the same type of narrative as Niddhog.

 

[ZenZu]

@ZenZu argued that Zoro mid diffs Yamato not that long ago 😂😂😂

Mid-high diff. Nothing changed though. If Zoro can eventually land on Lucci he's landing a big attack against Yamato.

 

[soupongo]

@Roo @Kurozumi Wiwi Reminder that BASE Yamato got similar AP portrayal to Snakeman

Yamato is cracked, on paper she should honestly be Admiral level with everything she has (Oni genes, ACoC, and an Awakened Mythical Zoan). The only reason she isn’t is because of plot

Yamato fights Kaido for Oden, a man she never met

Shanks doesn´t fight Kaido for Oden, a man he met and claimed was a friend, while claiming to not forgive anyone who harms his friends.

Yikes