Anime & Manga One Piece Spoilers - The Waiting Room

[AverageBuggyEnjoyer]

Wait, it got confirmed?

And talking about traitors, i remember the theory of Law being traitor of Alliance lol

The anime made it super clear it was Law lol

 

[Paragorn]

Logias were always special, remember how Ace stopped the snow by his mere arrival, or how it started to rain upon Croc's defeat?

Atp I don't even know how logia awakening will work. The mere fact that we have yet to even see many logia x haki attack combos is ridiculous.

I don't think we'll actually see Logia Awakening in a powerscaling sense, This will remain as if it were implied.

 

[Shiroyru]

Let's not forget the theory of the reason why it's always day in Ennies Lobby it's because of Pika Pika Awakening

This would be pretty terrible for the Wizaru agenda tbh, Kizaru’s Awakening would only just make the area sunny 24/7. @ZenZu

 

[Paragorn]

The anime made it super clear it was Law lol

Anime canonizing unsolved things sucks lol

Tbf, it's been years since o watched the anime, didn't remember this

 

[Zoinks52]

This would be pretty terrible for the Wizaru agenda tbh, Kizaru’s Awakening would only just make the area sunny 24/7. @ZenZu

Unironically a good point.

If it's like Akainu's and Kuzan's it could be a laser grid instead?

But tbh if it was a first time awakening then it probably makes sense to not be as crazy as PH.

 

[Paragorn]

This would be pretty terrible for the Wizaru agenda tbh, Kizaru’s Awakening would only just make the area sunny 24/7. @ZenZu

Lol, you're seeing from the agenda perspective

 

[Zoinks52]

The anime made it super clear it was Law lol

Eh, Loei has been known to change stuff a lot so they're hardly reliable.

 

[Paragorn]

Fans want Logia Awakening to be some kind of elemental avatar, but this is not something Oda would write

 

[Shiroyru]

Lol, you're seeing from the agenda perspective

The agenda perspective reigns supreme on this forum though. The combat utility of the Pika Pika Awakening would be pretty bad in that case

 

[Paragorn]

Eh, Loei has been known to change stuff a lot so they're hardly reliable.

We're talking about the same Toei which made Greenbull's blade white despite all the manga colored promo being the contrary.

 

[Zoinks52]

I don't think we'll actually see Logia Awakening in a powerscaling sense, This will remain as if it were implied.

You mean Oda will forget it exists and we'll have to settle for being annoyed about it? Lol

But honestly I wouldn't be surprised if terraforming and transformations are just regular logia powers.

Imo the true awakening of a logia will be some kind of specic power, like a paramythia has.

So for example Kuzan will get the power to freeze even time, Kizaru will move so fast he outspeeds time, Akainu can burn through time etc.

So what I'm saying is logia awakening turns you into a Jojo character.

 

[Paragorn]

The agenda perspective reigns supreme on this forum though. The combat utility of the Pika Pika Awakening would be pretty bad in that case

Imagine believing making an island permanent day forever is pretty bad for an character agenda lol.

Let's just trash on Kuzan and Akainu's permanent colateral damage on PH as well

 

[Zoinks52]

Fans want Logia Awakening to be some kind of elemental avatar, but this is not something Oda would write

That's a basic logia power tbh, I mean look at Enel and Ryokugyu.

I really don't get why people think or say that stuff like cloning, transforming and terraforming counts as awakening. That's just regular logia stuff.

 

[Paragorn]

You mean Oda will forget it exists and we'll have to settle for being annoyed about it? Lol

But honestly I wouldn't be surprised if terraforming and transformations are just regular logia powers.

Imo the true awakening of a logia will be some kind of specic power, like a paramythia has.

So for example Kuzan will get the power to freeze even time, Kizaru will move so fast he outspeeds time, Akainu can burn through time etc.

So what I'm saying is logia awakening turns you into a Jojo character.

I think fans always speculate too much about characters powers and end up being more simple than we thought.

Remember Gear 5 theories? Ofc it's not the same but Jesus, i lost the count of theories about what Gear 5 would be.

" Gear 5 is Tigerman"
" Gear 5 is Lionman"
" Gear 5 Sun Wukong"
" Gear 5 is Resin fruit reveal"

Nobody would thought about what it would be

Remember the former Greenbull DF theories? People LEGIT thought he would end up as Mythical Zoan because of his Greenbull epithet and his statement of not eating for 2 years lol

 

[Paragorn]

That's a basic logia power tbh, I mean look at Enel and Ryokugyu.

I really don't get why people think or say that stuff like cloning, transforming and terraforming counts as awakening. That's just regular logia stuff.

It's simple for the Post-Timeskip standards when we have plenty of Awakening DFs and Advanced Hakis but for the Pre-Timeskip standards literally every "basic" Logia feat was a Top Tier feat as Kuzan's introduction, or Yami Teach cancel other DFs powers, or Crocodille's intangibility being a menace to Luffy making him lose twice for Croco, or Akainu melting half of Whitebeard's face.

Logias were literally a different bread before Timeskip

 

[Zoinks52]

I think fans always speculate too much about characters powers and end up being more simple than we thought

Yeah pretty much.

I mainly got in during EH and I remember so many awakening theories for Kizaru....and ofc I have seen the theories for Rocks.

Remember Gear 5 theories? Ofc it's not the same but Jesus, i lost the count of theories about what Gear 5 would be.

" Gear 5 is Tigerman"
" Gear 5 is Lionman"
" Gear 5 Sun Wukong"
" Gear 5 is Resin fruit reveal"

Nobody would thought about what it would be

Remember the former Greenbull DF theories? People LEGIT thought he would end up as Mythical Zoan because of his Greenbull epithet and his statement of not eating for 2 years lol

Honestly I like some of the Lion and Tiger man designs.

Always liked G4 more than G5, Boundman especially was the perfect combo of goofy and badass.

Remember the former Greenbull DF theories? People LEGIT thought he would end up as Mythical Zoan because of his Greenbull epithet and his statement of not eating for 2 years lol

Minotaur Greenbull would've gone hard tho ngl

 

[Zoinks52]

It's simple for the Post-Timeskip standards when we have plenty of Awakening DFs and Advanced Hakis but for the Pre-Timeskip standards literally every "basic" Logia feat was a Top Tier feat as Kuzan's introduction, or Yami Teach cancel other DFs powers, or Crocodille's intangibility being a menace to Luffy making him lose twice for Croco, or Akainu melting half of Whitebeard's face.

Logias were literally a different bread before Timeskip

Logias were so busted we got a whole new powerset (haki) thanks to them.

Even now they feel more OP than Mythical Zoans. I mean we've seen the full potential of zoans explored way more whereas the three strongest logias in the story have yet to fight seriously.

 

[Paragorn]

Tbh, the whole One Piece system should be studied because it's really crazy how nowdays everything is too overpower but at the same time not.

 

[Zoinks52]

Tbh, the whole One Piece system should be studied because it's really crazy how nowdays everything is too overpower but at the same time not.

Do you mean in the sense that the "feel" is missing?

Because if so, I get it. Enel feels stronger than many characters who supposedly outscale him and MF WB still feels like the strongest Emperor to me.

 

[Paragorn]

Logias were so busted we got a whole new powerset (haki) thanks to them.

Even now they feel more OP than Mythical Zoans. I mean we've seen the full potential of zoans explored way more whereas the three strongest logias in the story have yet to fight seriously.

Ngl, i enjoyed the Zoan era

We pretty much saw so many Paramecia users during PH ~ WCI including 2 Paramecia awakening to the point Oda needed to include the "special Paramecia" for Katakuri

But i liked how he went full on Zoan development since i always liked Marco's healing ability coming from his Mythical Zoan, so Zoans aren't only about strenght as ID beast but they can also have elemental atributes in fight.

About Beast Pirates, i think Oda weren't interested on develop their Zoan abilities, since King had Lunarian defense(some people complain it got retconned) and Queen had Germa Powers.