General & Others It's Okay to Drop the Series

[eamonpro]

Your self awareness is jarring.

i was speaking past you, not to you. As ive tried to make clear, i think an adult named "my anime is le cuck" is not to be taken seriously and i have no intent or expectation of you listening to me or changing

im aware that im mean and hostile to you. But youre the guy who named "my anime is le cuck," so its a wash. And you say you like to take peoples @'s so you can troll them later while you jerk off, so Id even go as far to say being rude to you is righteous.

I am self aware, so i do know you also have similar feelings to me. But ive never met a guy irl who always laughs at "cuck" who isnt a drunk driver, so i have to have some confidence in my standpoint over yours

 

[Logiko]

Am Ngl I am disappointed in you . Is your problem an issue with the prevalence of criticisms on the story’s direction . This isn’t even trolling , this is about whether or not you think people with any sort of less than positive outlook on the series should be here.

what makes you feel unsafe in these threads.

Trolling is like drinking alcoohol, it's good once in a while, but if you do it everyday just to feel connected, you need a reality check and accept the fact that you are addicted. Trolling transforms into the expressing of an emotion, a negative one in this case.

There is something we learn when we do politics. It's that negativity can be understood through systemic means. Taken alone, these threads are nothing, they are meaningless, not really a threat. Love that fainted transformed into hatred. But the problem arrives when you take a step back like I just showed you. What you saw here is just me taking a note out of 10 negative thread that I was seeing every week during just a few month, and yet they were not separate items, but a constant flow of pure illegitimated hatred, connected in their reasonning.

You need to understand that water doesn't hurt on its own. But water that flows and build up over time will shape mountains. And you are talking in a forum that has been shaped by a constant flow of negativity over time. A flow you are not aware of or that you deny, your choice.

To counter this flow, a positive equal and opposite amount of positivity must happen. This type of thing does not exist here. We tried, without result. Every type of positive outcome was systematically destroyed. This is not an accident, it's by design. So we need to reshape the design that allows this flow to happen.

What I want, and what you do not understand, is not for negativity to disappear. I want for this place to be INCLUSIVE. Meaning that it needs to include people who don't like things... but ALSO people who likes things too, people who do not risk to be actually harmed either by constant trolling or actuall problematic behaviors in the process of sharing.

Because where there is hatred, there is always reactionnaries. And with the hate of One Piece, comes behaviors and values that can actually hurt the marginalized, women, disabled, etc.

You need to give up this strawman of your that I'm seeking for a positivity bubble and actually listen to what I'm saying and showing.

Again. Look around more closely. Take not of the negativity everyday. You will see it.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Trolling is like drinking alcoohol, it's good once in a while, but if you do it everyday just to feel connected, you need a reality check and accept the fact that you are addicted. Trolling transforms into the expressing of an emotion, a negative one in this case.

There is something we learn when we do politics. It's that negativity can be understood through systemic means. Taken alone, these threads are nothing, they are meaningless, not really a threat. Love that fainted transformed into hatred. But the problem arrives when you take a step back like I just showed you. What you saw here is just me taking a note out of 10 negative thread that I was seeing every week during just a few month, and yet they were not separate items, but a constant flow of pure illegitimated hatred, connected in their reasonning.

You need to understand that water doesn't hurt on its own. But water that flows and build up over time will shape mountains. And you are talking in a forum that has been shaped by a constant flow of negativity over time. A flow you are not aware of or that you deny, your choice.

To counter this flow, a positive equal and opposite amount of positivity must happen. This type of thing does not exist here. We tried, without result. Every type of positive outcome was systematically destroyed. This is not an accident, it's by design. So we need to reshape the design that allows this flow to happen.

What I want, and what you do not understand, is not for negativity to disappear. I want for this place to be INCLUSIVE. Meaning that it needs to include people who don't like things... but ALSO people who likes things too, people who do not risk to be actually harmed either by constant trolling or actuall problematic behaviors in the process of sharing.

Because where there is hatred, there is always reactionnaries. And with the hate of One Piece, comes behaviors and values that can actually hurt the marginalized, women, disabled, etc.

You need to give up this strawman of your that I'm seeking for a positivity bubble and actually listen to what I'm saying and showing.

Again. Look around more closely. Take not of the negativity everyday. You will see it.

You need to understand am not you and everyone else isnt you . Being an empath cuts both ways . Not everyone else needs to look deeper than you assume they are always looking. "To counter this flow, a positive equal and opposite amount of positivity must happen"???
Things arent balanced naturally and for what its worth I think the vast amount of people here still enjoy the series.
The post you highlighted werent even trolling. at the height of my enjoyment of the series I had things I was critical about . Your problem is you genuinely have an issue with people seeing things very differently than you do .


I am aware of it . I do not care and it doesnt affect me in the slightest. it is art , simple as. from 2020 and to current day oden is the best character in the series. I havent taken the time to but do a scope of the entire forum what most people think here of his character and they feel differently. it doesnt affect me in the slightest and people who feel his character arc was a complete miss have every right to . if people feel unwelcome by the threads you highlighted there , I will be honest with you, these people were fairly mentally unstable anyway.



I would go an extra step further if "trolls" like myself with my username, mocking some of your most favorite characters affects you on a personal level, you are a fucking loser and I am being pretty darn serious.

 

[eamonpro]

You need to understand am not you and everyone else isnt you . Being an empath cuts both ways . Not everyone else needs to look deeper than you assume they are always looking. "To counter this flow, a positive equal and opposite amount of positivity must happen"???
Things arent balanced naturally and for what its worth I think the vast amount of people here still enjoy the series.
The post you highlighted werent even trolling. at the height of my enjoyment of the series I had things I was critical about . Your problem is you genuinely have an issue with people seeing things very differently than you do .


I am aware of it . I do not care and it doesnt affect me in the slightest. it is art , simple as. from 2020 and to current day oden is the best character in the series. I havent taken the time to but do a scope of the entire forum what most people think here of his character and they feel differently. it doesnt affect me in the slightest and people who feel his character arc was a complete miss have every right to . if people feel unwelcome by the threads you highlighted there , I will be honest with you, these people were fairly mentally unstable anyway.



I would go an extra step further if "trolls" like myself with my username, mocking some of your most favorite characters affects you on a personal level, you are a fucking loser and I am being pretty darn serious.

I mean, the guy in the office who likes to never shut up and interject in every convo with "trolling" knowing it makes other peoples days worse and gets off on it because theyre "losers" is the guy i just tell to chill your shelf irl and they shut up when they realized never shutting the fuck up gets you the same in return, but that gets me banned here

It getting me banned here doesnt mean a guy named "durr my anime is a cuck" and ranting about how hes so open to serious conversation followed with "youre such a fucking loser reee" shouldnt chill his shelf lol

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

i was speaking past you, not to you. As ive tried to make clear, i think an adult named "my anime is le cuck" is not to be taken seriously and i have no intent or expectation of you listening to me or changing

im aware that im mean and hostile to you. But youre the guy who named "my anime is le cuck," so its a wash. And you say you like to take peoples @'s so you can troll them later while you jerk off, so Id even go as far to say being rude to you is righteous.

I am self aware, so i do know you also have similar feelings to me. But ive never met a guy irl who always laughs at "cuck" who isnt a drunk driver, so i have to have some confidence in my standpoint over yours

you arent being mean and hostile to me really because beneath all that
I can ruin your day complaining about op . fake demons arent interesting.

The imagery of me pleasing myself at the thought of trolling other fans is powerful stuff . never though of it that way thanks.

 

[eamonpro]

you arent being mean and hostile to me really because beneath all that
I can ruin your day complaining about op . fake demons arent interesting.

The imagery of me pleasing myself at the thought of trolling other fans is powerful stuff . never though of it that way thanks.

Why would you jerking off ruin my day?
I just dislike you. All youre doing is jerking off. Youre like my coworkers who rant about all the videos you watched about owning the libs or feminists. Think that when people get annoyed by you you "beat" them, really they just think "holy shit why cant this guy do us a favor and take the plunge already"

I dont care that you dislike OP and welcome criticism and even hatred of the story, only think the as ive said hundreds of pages of the same recycled/stolen jokes in the name of "trolling" is braindead. I don't see why you think me thinking "hmm, my day would be slightly better if he wasnt born because damn is he annoying" means its ruined. I can still take a shit and do my NYT connections in the morning.

How do you know im not jerking off too, anyway

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Why would you jerking off ruin my day?
I just dislike you.

I love you too

 

[Logiko]

Things arent balanced naturally and for what its worth I think the vast amount of people here still enjoy the series.

Yes. That's why it is still worth fighting for.

What I'm talking about is a movement of hatred, not the actual testimony of what everyone think. I want people who are currently talking and trolling, to be able to express positivity too.

But this can't happen in the current forum.

The post you highlighted werent even trolling. at the height of my enjoyment of the series I had things I was critical about . Your problem is you genuinely have an issue with people seeing things very differently than you do .

I did not show you people trolling, I show you people hating. I don't know why you are focused on the trolling. I know how to distinguish both.

Trolling is not hating. What I showed you is people purposelly dissing to create negativity, a form of clickbait if you prefer. And it's not about what I believe. These are OBJECTIVELY and mostly (not allà hatred threads, not simple "but he think differently than you". No. Clickbait Hatred. Or ragebait if you prefer.

Now, you need to stop individualizing what I'm talking about and look in a systemic way

I don't like most of the critics I see. Not because they are negative, but because they are based on illegitimated basis. On fallacious principle and most of the time on bad faith argumentations. BUT, this wouldn't be a problem if the phenomenon was not generalized and constant.

This wouldn't be a problem if a person taking the time to craft something good in a thread would not be hit with negativity and trolling (and I'm not talking about my case here). This wouldn't be a problem if looking at the One Piece section was not a trolling and hatred fest that freeze any positive fan to share something about their passion.

The problem is the generalization and the systemism of the Negativity.

I am aware of it . I do not care and it doesnt affect me in the slightest. it is art , simple as. from 2020 and to current day oden is the best character in the series. I havent taken the time to but do a scope of the entire forum what most people think here of his character and they feel differently. it doesnt affect me in the slightest and people who feel his character arc was a complete miss have every right to . if people feel unwelcome by the threads you highlighted there , I will be honest with you, these people were fairly mentally unstable anyway.

Good for you. Other people are not like you. And negativity has - mecanically - an objective negative impact on people anywhere. This doesn't even need to be demosntrated anymore.

these people were fairly mentally unstable anyway.

This, is - for exemple - what make me feel unsafe here.

This is not inclusivity, this is reactionnarism. So 1. Please stop that. 2 What I showed you is but the micro tip of the iceberg.

3. Show some empathy around you. One Piece is a safe heaven for some. It's not always a fun trolling battlefield.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Yes. That's why it is still worth fighting for.

What I'm talking about is a movement of hatred, not the actual testimony of what everyone think. I want people who are currently talking and trolling, to be able to express positivity too.

But this can't happen in the current forum.



I did not show you people trolling, I show you people hating. I don't know why you are focused on the trolling. I know how to distinguish both.

Trolling is not hating. What I showed you is people purposelly dissing to create negativity, a form of clickbait if you prefer. And it's not about what I believe. These are OBJECTIVELY and mostly (not allà hatred threads, not simple "but he think differently than you". No. Clickbait Hatred. Or ragebait if you prefer.

Now, you need to stop individualizing what I'm talking about and look in a systemic way

I don't like most of the critics I see. Not because they are negative, but because they are based on illegitimated basis. On fallacious principle and most of the time on bad faith argumentations. BUT, this wouldn't be a problem if the phenomenon was not generalized and constant.

This wouldn't be a problem if a person taking the time to craft something good in a thread would not be hit with negativity and trolling (and I'm not talking about my case here). This wouldn't be a problem if looking at the One Piece section was not a trolling and hatred fest that freeze any positive fan to share something about their passion.

The problem is the generalization and the systemism of the Negativity.



Good for you. Other people are not like you. And negativity has - mecanically - an objective negative impact on people anywhere. This doesn't even need to be demosntrated anymore.


This, is - for exemple - what make me feel unsafe here.

This is not inclusivity, this is reactionnarism. So 1. Please stop that. 2 What I showed you is but the micro tip of the iceberg.

3. Show some empathy around you. One Piece is a safe heaven for some. It's not always a fun trolling battlefield.

yeah one piece is but WG is not your safe haven .


It will be hypocritical for me to stop anything or argue for anyone to do anything
I am worse than the people you highlighted , far worse. I may not make threads crying about it but I take the piss out of a lot of characters in the story as I also enjoy others. Sorry I dont think anyone feeling "unwelcome" because someone created a thread calling ace a dumbass is stable .


as I have said before start muting and ignoring.

 

[eamonpro]

yeah one piece is but WG is not your safe haven .


It will be hypocritical for me to stop anything or argue for anyone to do anything
I am worse than the people you highlighted , far worse. I may not make threads crying about it but I take the piss out of a lot of characters in the story as I also enjoy others. Sorry I dont think anyone feeling "unwelcome" because someone created a thread calling ace a dumbass is stable .


as I have said before start muting and ignoring.

If we're giving personal opinions on other users mental health, i think you should kill yourself just because you jerk off over being kinda an asshole. No real diagnosis but "kinda an asshole, many would agree when he died that not much was lost." I dont care if you dislike OP, but you assumed i did and went "im gonna @ you just to be kinda a dick later." You would say the logical response to you calling Logiko a fucking unstable loser is to gang up on them cause youre right. Fuck off lmfao. nothing to do with being mean to a character. Youre in this thread jerking off at getting a chance to dress down logiko

What logical reason do i have to not think that youre probably a net negative on the world? You jerk off daily over "owning losers" online, even if you need to make up and strawman those losers to get your nut. I have no reason to believe you arent like this irl. Do your family a favor. Jump off a bridge.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

How do you know im not jerking off too, anyway

funniest part of the thread ibr

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Why would you jerking off ruin my day?
I just dislike you. All youre doing is jerking off. Youre like my coworkers who rant about all the videos you watched about owning the libs or feminists. Think that when people get annoyed by you you "beat" them, really they just think "holy shit why cant this guy do us a favor and take the plunge already"

I dont care that you dislike OP and welcome criticism and even hatred of the story, only think the as ive said hundreds of pages of the same recycled/stolen jokes in the name of "trolling" is braindead. I don't see why you think me thinking "hmm, my day would be slightly better if he wasnt born because damn is he annoying" means its ruined. I can still take a shit and do my NYT connections in the morning.

How do you know im not jerking off too, anyway

I think the difference between me and you is I learned to see the story as simply entertainment just like I would poke at seatlle seahawks when they lose. But this is separate from real issues that are affecting people's day to day activities , careers , health , welfare etc. Being able to discern what things are trivial and when things are serious is what every mature person learns to do.



comparing me to you coworkers is funny ....
eimonpro its quite clear you dont know what you are talking about.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

If we're giving personal opinions on other users mental health, i think you should kill yourself just because you jerk off over being kinda an asshole. No real diagnosis but "kinda an asshole, many would agree when he died that not much was lost." I dont care if you dislike OP, but you assumed i did and went "im gonna @ you just to be kinda a dick later." You would say the logical response to you calling Logiko a fucking unstable loser is to gang up on them cause youre right. Fuck off lmfao. nothing to do with being mean to a character. Youre in this thread jerking off at getting a chance to dress down logiko

What logical reason do i have to not think that youre probably a net negative on the world? You jerk off daily over "owning losers" online, even if you need to make up and strawman those losers to get your nut. I have no reason to believe you arent like this irl. Do your family a favor. Jump off a bridge.

 

[eamonpro]

funniest part of the thread ibr

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I think the difference between me and you is I learned to see the story as simply entertainment just like I would poke at seatlle seahawks when they lose. But this is separate from real issues that are affecting people's day to day activities , careers , health , welfare etc. Being able to discern what things are trivial and when things are serious is what every mature person learns to do.



comparing me to you coworkers is funny ....
eimonpro its quite clear you dont know what you are talking about.

I see the story as pure entertainment.

I still see people who jerk off over how they can own people who like it are wastes of space, certainly more

Lets be real: if you really think Logiko is so mentally unstable over an anime forum, and your response is "haha you fucking unstable loser," you dont care if they live or die. You are being cruel to them, for fun, after saying a couple posts earlier that you always wanted genuine conversation with them. POS behavior, who sees someone they supposedly know and want genuine convo with and jumps to "UNSTABLE FUCKING LOSER" in a minute damn

I dont care if you go "haha you dont know me irl" i dont subscribe to your dumbass "irl and online are completely disconnected" shit. I wasnt saying you have those politics, i was saying you share a CHARACTER FLAW: YOU GET OFF ON MAKING PEOPLE YOU THINK ARE LESSER THAN YOU UPSET. And if you do legit think logiko or others are unstable, you see yourself as "higher" enough to play with them as puppets.

Youre a grown man who named yourself "muh anime is le cuck" to get off on reactions from fans of those characters. Probably mostly teenagers. You think you can get me mad because "reee dont be mean to one piece," really im like "holy shit another copy and paste annoying fuck who thinks hes funny trolling instead of reading a book for once"

As an adult who sees jerking off as a worthwhile endeavor, i think you are far worse for humanity than the people you jerk off over. kys

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

If we're giving personal opinions on other users mental health, i think you should kill yourself just because you jerk off over being kinda an asshole. No real diagnosis but "kinda an asshole, many would agree when he died that not much was lost." I dont care if you dislike OP, but you assumed i did and went "im gonna @ you just to be kinda a dick later." You would say the logical response to you calling Logiko a fucking unstable loser is to gang up on them cause youre right. Fuck off lmfao. nothing to do with being mean to a character. Youre in this thread jerking off at getting a chance to dress down logiko

What logical reason do i have to not think that youre probably a net negative on the world? You jerk off daily over "owning losers" online, even if you need to make up and strawman those losers to get your nut. I have no reason to believe you arent like this irl. Do your family a favor. Jump off a bridge.

I see the story as pure entertainment.

I still see people who jerk off over how they can own people who like it are wastes of space, certainly more

Lets be real: if you really think Logiko is so mentally unstable over an anime forum, and your response is "haha you fucking unstable loser," you dont care if they live or die. You are being cruel to them, for fun, after saying a couple posts earlier that you always wanted genuine conversation with them. POS behavior, who sees someone they supposedly know and want genuine convo with and jumps to "UNSTABLE FUCKING LOSER" in a minute damn

I dont care if you go "haha you dont know me irl" i dont subscribe to your dumbass "irl and online are completely disconnected" shit. I wasnt saying you have those politics, i was saying you share a CHARACTER FLAW: YOU GET OFF ON MAKING PEOPLE YOU THINK ARE LESSER THAN YOU UPSET.

Youre a grown man who named yourself "muh anime is le cuck" to get off on reactions from fans of those characters.

As an adult, i think you are far worse for humanity than the people you jerk off over. kys

 

[eamonpro]

still alive?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

still alive?

why wouldnt I be

 

[vikas]

One reason is interest in finding why others are still reading it..

 

[eamonpro]

why wouldnt I be

Thought maybe you pulled a David Carradine on this particular session

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

The strangest thing about the whole exchange was I genuinely tried to be delicate after seeing the first few rants from eamon, I was actually more brash with logiko. tis a shame it had to go this way.

 

[eamonpro]

funniest part of the thread ibr

.....




I think the difference between me and you is I learned to see the story as simply entertainment just like I would poke at seatlle seahawks when they lose. But this is separate from real issues that are affecting people's day to day activities , careers , health , welfare etc. Being able to discern what things are trivial and when things are serious is what every mature person learns to do.



comparing me to you coworkers is funny ....
eimonpro its quite clear you dont know what you are talking about.

You already thought logiko was the unstable loser you called them.

Yes, everything is trivial. Either way you chose to set them up so you could jerk off over calling them an unstable loser. Even if you think its trivial and theyre not normal, if theyre so unstable youre a massive asshole if you try to push them like that. So of course i want you to kys.

I wouldve told you to kill yourself in middle school too, which was the last place ive seen behavior like that