Questions & Mysteries Do you agree with Dragon Ball Editor, Torishima’s criticism of modern One Piece
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Because. A. Giant. Warrior. Pirate. Is. Stronger. Then. A. Perfectly. Normal. Non-Combatant. Old. Woman.
If you shot her with a cannon ball, she dies. You shoot Oimo with one? "Huh, did a fly land on me?
God, you are so *fucking* stupid, I legitimately feel my heart racing in my chest from stupidity-induced anger.
If you shot her with a cannon ball, she dies. You shoot Oimo with one? "Huh, did a fly land on me?
God, you are so *fucking* stupid, I legitimately feel my heart racing in my chest from stupidity-induced anger.
1. What proof do you even have that Davy clan members are only as strong as normal people? They’re one of the most important clans in the lore, and produced people like Davy Jones, Xebec, and Teach.
2. Zoro is overwhelmingly stronger than a random giant. If the Davies were permakilled because Xebec was way stronger than them, then the same logic would apply to the giants that Zoro diced up
2. Zoro is overwhelmingly stronger than a random giant. If the Davies were permakilled because Xebec was way stronger than them, then the same logic would apply to the giants that Zoro diced up
But then when the power is gone, all that is left is their own strength.....which as I keep trying to say, those two people, would have FAR less then other characters like a Dorry or Brogy figure, because they are normal, non super, humans.
That's why they died because his granny was simply a normal granny.
That's why they died because his granny was simply a normal granny.
1. We actually don't see anyone dead. You made that asumption on your own
2. It's possible Xebec simply killed them after the fact not knowin what to do
3. The domi reversi doesn't restore the damages taken before, they were probably already dead
In reality, you invented a plot hole, what there is here is simply offscreening or at worse a lack of explanation. As long as it can be explained within the diegese of the story, there areno plotholes.
Not a plothole either, it's simply a character not risking anything more. The situation was not as much of a problem to him. The potential descendance of Davy D Jones scared him much more. Not mentionning the fact that it completely aligns with his motus opperendi.
Again, you are inventing something and confusing a problem of writing with a character just not doing what you want them to do. This is bad media literacy, not a plot hole.
Not all cuts are the same. It was explained early on in god valley already. And there is no problem with Gaban not knowing
If gaban knew, it would have meant that these HK would be dead since it seems to be their weak point. Conclusion : they never got that far. And It took multiple strike and explosion to reveal the heart.
Again you are inventing a problem.
In reality, most people forget this in chapter 621:
This is indeed a little bit tricky because it involves a lot of time line but the timeline is this one :
> 16 years ago > Shirahoshi was born and Otohime asked for petitions.
> LATER THAT YEAR on that "one day" > Fisher Tiger came back from a long journey where he saw "the inhumanity of human". He mentions to Neptune wanting to free the slaves. He was actually a slave himself as confirmed here
> 15 years ago (so just a bit after that "one day" - Fisher Tiger returned ALONE on Marijoa to freed the slave. Confirmed here:
> There, he got himself captured. He probably NEVER climbed the redline. And gave himself up probably thinking that he would be able to get out another time. Which he did.
> He started to free the slave BY HIMSELF
> Then encountered Shanks who gave him the key of the other cells
> Fisher Tiger
> Later (just a day or so after) > The news broke out and the fishmen formed the sun Pirates
In other words, not only fisher tiger's honor (outside of the feet of the redline climbing) is completely safe since according to the current story, but Fisher Tiger did not escape once but TWICE and freed the slave on his the SECOND time.
At worst, you get a little bit of sketchy timeline, perhaps Oda even confused himself with the years since it's very close together. But the story still holds and NOTHING is unexplainable or impossible. Which means : no plothole or retcon.
A simple recontextualization.
2. It's possible Xebec simply killed them after the fact not knowin what to do
3. The domi reversi doesn't restore the damages taken before, they were probably already dead
In reality, you invented a plot hole, what there is here is simply offscreening or at worse a lack of explanation. As long as it can be explained within the diegese of the story, there areno plotholes.
Not a plothole either, it's simply a character not risking anything more. The situation was not as much of a problem to him. The potential descendance of Davy D Jones scared him much more. Not mentionning the fact that it completely aligns with his motus opperendi.
Again, you are inventing something and confusing a problem of writing with a character just not doing what you want them to do. This is bad media literacy, not a plot hole.
Not all cuts are the same. It was explained early on in god valley already. And there is no problem with Gaban not knowing
If gaban knew, it would have meant that these HK would be dead since it seems to be their weak point. Conclusion : they never got that far. And It took multiple strike and explosion to reveal the heart.
Again you are inventing a problem.
In reality, most people forget this in chapter 621:
This is indeed a little bit tricky because it involves a lot of time line but the timeline is this one :
> 16 years ago > Shirahoshi was born and Otohime asked for petitions.
> LATER THAT YEAR on that "one day" > Fisher Tiger came back from a long journey where he saw "the inhumanity of human". He mentions to Neptune wanting to free the slaves. He was actually a slave himself as confirmed here
> 15 years ago (so just a bit after that "one day" - Fisher Tiger returned ALONE on Marijoa to freed the slave. Confirmed here:
> There, he got himself captured. He probably NEVER climbed the redline. And gave himself up probably thinking that he would be able to get out another time. Which he did.
> He started to free the slave BY HIMSELF
> Then encountered Shanks who gave him the key of the other cells
> Later (just a day or so after) > The news broke out and the fishmen formed the sun Pirates
In other words, not only fisher tiger's honor (outside of the feet of the redline climbing) is completely safe since according to the current story, but Fisher Tiger did not escape once but TWICE and freed the slave on his the SECOND time.
At worst, you get a little bit of sketchy timeline, perhaps Oda even confused himself with the years since it's very close together. But the story still holds and NOTHING is unexplainable or impossible. Which means : no plothole or retcon.
A simple recontextualization.
1. We actually don't see anyone dead. You made that asumption on your own
2. It's possible Xebec simply killed them after the fact not knowin what to do
3. The domi reversi doesn't restore the damages taken before, they were probably already dead
In reality, you invented a plot hole, what there is here is simply offscreening or at worse a lack of explanation. As long as it can be explained within the diegese of the story, there areno plotholes.
Not a plothole either, it's simply a character not risking anything more. The situation was not as much of a problem to him. The potential descendance of Davy D Jones scared him much more. Not mentionning the fact that it completely aligns with his motus opperendi.
Again, you are inventing something and confusing a problem of writing with a character just not doing what you want them to do. This is bad media literacy, not a plot hole.
Not all cuts are the same. It was explained early on in god valley already. And there is no problem with Gaban not knowing
If gaban knew, it would have meant that these HK would be dead since it seems to be their weak point. Conclusion : they never got that far. And It took multiple strike and explosion to reveal the heart.
Again you are inventing a problem.
In reality, most people forget this in chapter 621:
This is indeed a little bit tricky because it involves a lot of time line but the timeline is this one :
> 16 years ago > Shirahoshi was born and Otohime asked for petitions.
> LATER THAT YEAR on that "one day" > Fisher Tiger came back from a long journey where he saw "the inhumanity of human". He mentions to Neptune wanting to free the slaves. He was actually a slave himself as confirmed here
> 15 years ago (so just a bit after that "one day" - Fisher Tiger returned ALONE on Marijoa to freed the slave. Confirmed here:
> There, he got himself captured. He probably NEVER climbed the redline. And gave himself up probably thinking that he would be able to get out another time. Which he did.
> He started to free the slave BY HIMSELF
> Then encountered Shanks who gave him the key of the other cells
> Fisher Tiger
> Later (just a day or so after) > The news broke out and the fishmen formed the sun Pirates
In other words, not only fisher tiger's honor (outside of the feet of the redline climbing) is completely safe since according to the current story, but Fisher Tiger did not escape once but TWICE and freed the slave on his the SECOND time.
At worst, you get a little bit of sketchy timeline, perhaps Oda even confused himself with the years since it's very close together. But the story still holds and NOTHING is unexplainable or impossible. Which means : no plothole or retcon.
A simple recontextualization.
2. It's possible Xebec simply killed them after the fact not knowin what to do
3. The domi reversi doesn't restore the damages taken before, they were probably already dead
In reality, you invented a plot hole, what there is here is simply offscreening or at worse a lack of explanation. As long as it can be explained within the diegese of the story, there areno plotholes.
Not a plothole either, it's simply a character not risking anything more. The situation was not as much of a problem to him. The potential descendance of Davy D Jones scared him much more. Not mentionning the fact that it completely aligns with his motus opperendi.
Again, you are inventing something and confusing a problem of writing with a character just not doing what you want them to do. This is bad media literacy, not a plot hole.
Not all cuts are the same. It was explained early on in god valley already. And there is no problem with Gaban not knowing
If gaban knew, it would have meant that these HK would be dead since it seems to be their weak point. Conclusion : they never got that far. And It took multiple strike and explosion to reveal the heart.
Again you are inventing a problem.
In reality, most people forget this in chapter 621:
This is indeed a little bit tricky because it involves a lot of time line but the timeline is this one :
> 16 years ago > Shirahoshi was born and Otohime asked for petitions.
> LATER THAT YEAR on that "one day" > Fisher Tiger came back from a long journey where he saw "the inhumanity of human". He mentions to Neptune wanting to free the slaves. He was actually a slave himself as confirmed here
> 15 years ago (so just a bit after that "one day" - Fisher Tiger returned ALONE on Marijoa to freed the slave. Confirmed here:
> There, he got himself captured. He probably NEVER climbed the redline. And gave himself up probably thinking that he would be able to get out another time. Which he did.
> He started to free the slave BY HIMSELF
> Then encountered Shanks who gave him the key of the other cells
> Later (just a day or so after) > The news broke out and the fishmen formed the sun Pirates
In other words, not only fisher tiger's honor (outside of the feet of the redline climbing) is completely safe since according to the current story, but Fisher Tiger did not escape once but TWICE and freed the slave on his the SECOND time.
At worst, you get a little bit of sketchy timeline, perhaps Oda even confused himself with the years since it's very close together. But the story still holds and NOTHING is unexplainable or impossible. Which means : no plothole or retcon.
A simple recontextualization.
How does that make things better for Oda?