Controversial which was worse? Luffy being Joyboy or Naruto being the Reincarnation or the Six Sage, Son of the 4th Hokage and Child of Prophecy?

#21
I didn't make a claim lmao, all I can really say is that Nardo being related to Minato creates justification for him having the 9 tails sealed in him, and is heavily implied from the very start of the story.
And all i said was, and you don't get that out of my post and instead of going into a sperg rage, was that it makes characters like kakashi, the third and so on makes looks incredible dumb, ooc and bad that Naruto is minatos son and the absolute psychosis and living state he was to forced to live in

Its like the whole oden shit but 100x worse

And like i said this is not even going into the later shit

Oda clearly also phoned in that nika shit but it destroyed less good characters in my eyes
 
#22
And all i said was, and you don't get that out of my post and instead of going into a sperg rage, was that it makes characters like kakashi, the third and so on makes looks incredible dumb, ooc and bad that Naruto is minatos son and the absolute psychosis and living state he was to forced to live in

Its like the whole oden shit but 100x worse

And like i said this is not even going into the later shit

Oda clearly also phoned in that nika shit but it destroyed less good characters in my eyes
They're not dumb, they just protected Naruto indirectly while the village looks down on him for being possessed by a Demon that nearly killed them all, within the last decade or so.
 
#23
They're not dumb, they just protected Naruto indirectly while the village looks down on him for being possessed by a Demon that nearly killed them all, within the last decade or so.
Yes im familiar with the "we didnt want to involve us in oden business" excuse while giving a kid psychosis
If you think thats good, thats on you
I, for one thinks its incredibly poorly written
 
#24
And all i said was, and you don't get that out of my post and instead of going into a sperg rage, was that it makes characters like kakashi, the third and so on makes looks incredible dumb, ooc and bad that Naruto is minatos son and the absolute psychosis and living state he was to forced to live in

Its like the whole oden shit but 100x worse

And like i said this is not even going into the later shit

Oda clearly also phoned in that nika shit but it destroyed less good characters in my eyes
No one looks worse than his literally Godfather Jaraiya.
 
#25
Yes im familiar with the "we didnt want to involve us in oden business" excuse while giving a kid psychosis
If you think thats good, thats on you
I, for one thinks its incredibly poorly written
Slavery and murder isn't the same as a kid being....bullied, lol?

Nardo has all his legal rights as a citizen, he can attend school and the likes. But you kind of can't force people to like him? Unless you want Hiruzen to personally deploy the Anbu everytime someone calls him a demon child behind his back.
 
#27
"Why don't good people solve all the problems, by being good guys?"-Lekaro

In no universe does this even compare to the Oden situation, which is just an open occupation really just relying on a fight, or the much worse retcon of the MC's fruit 1k chapters in.
 

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#28
Naruto being related to the 4th was always obvious, it's the Asura/Child of Prophecy reveal that was terrible

Nika is mostly annoying because of his retarded laughing and constant glazing from various characters but it isn't as bad as what happened in late Naruto, at least not yet.
 
#29
Kekaro, you tard, Nardo being related to Minato is one of the most obvious "reveals" in fictional history
Thats not what i meant you dumb fatty, im talking inuniverse
God discount yapplier
It's not worse in universe than Luffy eating the Nika fruit, you retard
Opinions such as this are why you are fat bum btw.
I brought as many arguments as you have
I didn't make a claim lmao, all I can really say is that Nardo being related to Minato creates justification for him having the 9 tails sealed in him, and is heavily implied from the very start of the story.
Get a room you fucking nerds lmao
 

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#32
Which was worse Luffy having the Nika-Nika fruit or Naruto being the Son of the 4th Hokage, Child of Prophecy, and Reaincarnation of the Six Sage?
10010001010101010% Naruto that was more o an ass pulland random direction, ace/luffy have been hinted at being "the chosen" one(s) from very early on in the story.
 
#34
I don't think They are same concepts at all,
Joy Boy made a Promise to Poseidon regarding Noah's Ark,
And then it turns out that Joy Boy ate Nika DF which a Zoan, DFs Class that basically stores One Copy of each Living Being, does this ring a bell?
Especially with reveal that these Zoans have a Will of their own, so it's clearly a Type of DFs meant to Preserve Life, it's mostly related to Lineage Factor.

The fact that Vegapunk was able to Copy a Zoan DF, and it's possible to put them in Objects shows that it was always the Plan, these DFs can later be used to restore any Species (Even Humans as shown by Chopper's DF), and with the World said to be sinking, there is no doubt anymore.

Naruto on the other hand is straight up Reincarnation, it's like that same person was reborn,
Luffy's DF should instead be compared to Naruto having Kurama and his Awakening is similar to when Naruto Unlocked Nine-Tails Chakra Mode, and I didn't like both but They were definitely not as bad as Pure Reincarnation.
 
#35
I don't think They are same concepts at all,
Joy Boy made a Promise to Poseidon regarding Noah's Ark,
And then it turns out that Joy Boy ate Nika DF which a Zoan, DFs Class that basically stores One Copy of each Living Being, does this ring a bell?
Especially with reveal that these Zoans have a Will of their own, so it's clearly a Type of DFs meant to Preserve Life, it's mostly related to Lineage Factor.

The fact that Vegapunk was able to Copy a Zoan DF, and it's possible to put them in Objects shows that it was always the Plan, these DFs can later be used to restore any Species (Even Humans as shown by Chopper's DF), and with the World said to be sinking, there is no doubt anymore.

Naruto on the other hand is straight up Reincarnation, it's like that same person was reborn,
Luffy's DF should instead be compared to Naruto having Kurama and his Awakening is similar to when Naruto Unlocked Nine-Tails Chakra Mode, and I didn't like both but They were definitely not as bad as Pure Reincarnation.
As if it wasnt enough that he was son of hokage lol
 
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