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We’ve never had a detailed view of the entire OP world, so we have no clue how much space Alabasta takes up. Alabasta is way larger than the vast majority of OP islands anyways, which are usually only the size of a small to medium sized city.

And where did I ever state that Blue Planet can’t be larger than Earth? I just oppose the retarded scaling that puts it at star sized, or people acting like every single island is relative to Alabasta in size to come to retarded conclusions like Moria splitting TB in half being a country level feat
Considering both Alabasta AND Wano are just ONE of the many islands in Grand Line, there's no reason to assume Alabasta takes up a huge amount of space in the One Piece world. We've even seen a globe where several planetary objects were around the OP earth. There's even an easy explanation for it: The majority of actual countries and continents were sunken in the 2nd world. What we're currently seeing are the highest places of those countries, continents or islands.

Scaling it at star or irl earth sized is both stupid. But OP earth is clearly significantly larger to the point actual countries like Alabasta are extremely small. It's a fact. Also, if you believe OP earth is larger, I don't see the point to continue this discussion lol?
 

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Kizaru’s light already diverges from irl light in many other ways, so why should we assume it’s moving as fast as irl light?
Take in it takes Loki to use his lightning and Ragnir to use his ice combined to create light/lasers.

Just like it took Big Mom to combine fire, lightning and her blade to mimic lasers.

Anytime elements are on screen the Kizaru upscale goes crazy.

There are two elements that are used to show a superior element in the verse. Light and Magma. Oda uses Magma to show a higher level of flame similar to how he combines elements to create light.

Ice and lightning are a tier below them as shown by Loki and Ragnir. However the thing with Kuzan is he's not an ice man, he's a cold man, his actual ability is just lowering temperature, so while his produced element is clearly weaker he can probably just lower the temperature even further to cancel out stuff like magma (idk about lasers he's kinda cooked on that front).
 

ZenZu

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Blud his fruit is ice and he is literal called ice man in kanji dafaq 😭
Cold cold fruit or chill chill. That's what his df is. It's not ice ice. Calling him ice man obviously makes sense, but his df works by lowering temperatures. He's not spawning ice over the ocean, he's freezing the ocean.

So essentially he has the ability to freeze things. And he should be able to control the temperature of the freeze.
 
Cold cold fruit or chill chill. That's what his df is. It's not ice ice. Calling him ice man obviously makes sense, but his df works by lowering temperatures. He's not spawning ice over the ocean, he's freezing the ocean.

So essentially he has the ability to freeze things. And he should be able to control the temperature of the freeze.
So he has the tempartue lowering LOGIA?
Ok man whatever you say
 
Cold cold fruit or chill chill. That's what his df is. It's not ice ice. Calling him ice man obviously makes sense, but his df works by lowering temperatures. He's not spawning ice over the ocean, he's freezing the ocean.

So essentially he has the ability to freeze things. And he should be able to control the temperature of the freeze.
Basically just the inverse of this guy’s fruit
 
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