Chapter Discussion One Piece is still extremely Manichean

[Higuma]

I know it's a children's manga, But seriously, this is the tenth time Oda has served us the same story of the rich guy helping the kid from the slums. Ever since the appearance of the Celestial Dragons and Sabo's flashback, it's been nothing but that.
Even the story with the Marines and the gangs is predictable.
And let's not even talk about Brook calling the king "bro"

 

[Higuma]

Can Oda write a story other than the slum kid and the generous king ?

 

[Logiko]

 

[Juanpiz]

Can Oda write a story other than the slum kid and the generous king ?

Evil king(Doffy)

 

[Higuma]

Evil king(Doffy)

Yes, but Law is a child of the slums

 

[Midnight Delight]

What does One Piece have to do With Prophet Mani?

 

[Juanpiz]

Yes, but Law is a child of the slums

Wasnt he from a nice Educated family

 

[Higuma]

What does One Piece have to do With Prophet Mani?

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictiona... be Manichean is to,things in black and white.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Stop feeding Logiko

 

[Midnight Delight]

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/Manichean#:~:text=To be Manichean is to,things in black and white.

Does the One Piece teach about a World of Light vs "The Material World"

Does it teach pacifism
Does it teach chastity

Does it talk about how certain food are impure?

Nika alone would be considered evil in Manicheanism regardless of what good he does

 

[Brouhaha]

Slums Brook will start rapping soon

 

[Higuma]

Wasnt he from a nice Educated family

He lost everything, and the Doffy Family base is in a public dump

 

[Higuma]

Does the One Piece teach about a World of Light vs "The Material World"

Does it teach pacifism
Does it teach chastity

Does it talk about how certain food are impure?

Nika alone would be considered evil in Manicheanism regardless of what good he does

You don't understand. In French, the word "manichéen" means thinking that there are good guys on one side and bad guys on the other, being morally binary, believing that there is evil on one side and good on the other. In Oda's work, this translates to the poor slum dwellers being kind and generous, and the villains being indecently rich. It's stupid and idiotic.

 

[Midnight Delight]

You don't understand. In French, the word "manichéen" means thinking that there are good guys on one side and bad guys on the other, being morally binary, believing that there is evil on one side and good on the other. In Oda's work, this translates to the poor slum dwellers being kind and generous, and the villains being indecently rich. It's stupid and idiotic.

Sounds disrespectful to Mandeans tbh

 

[Kumathegoat]

You don't understand. In French, the word "manichéen" means thinking that there are good guys on one side and bad guys on the other, being morally binary, believing that there is evil on one side and good on the other. In Oda's work, this translates to the poor slum dwellers being kind and generous, and the villains being indecently rich. It's stupid and idiotic.

that is just how it is.

Have you ever lived in a third world country?

 

[Higuma]

Sounds disrespectful to Mandeans tbh

I don't give a damn

 

[Higuma]

that is just how it is.

Have you ever lived in a third world country?

You Sunday demagogues, you have a naive Christian view of the world. Before, Oda depicted the poor as wicked and petty, like in real life, but not anymore today one piece.

 

[Higuma]

The rich are no more morally despicable than the poor
Oda sinks into a distressing moral stupidity

 

[Kumathegoat]

you do not know how it is to be born poor and to live in a poor country that was stolen from colonizers and that still lived the consequences from centuries of slavery.

One Piece ressonates with many people who lived in harsh conditions

 

[Juanpiz]

The rich are no more morally despicable than the poor
Oda sinks into a distressing moral stupidity

Everyone has potential to be bad