Chapter Discussion ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1185 : Leave Them Be
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-Looks like Candelle was raped by a Celestial Dragon. If this is the case, Shuri's eyes are most likely from the Celestial Dragon's genetics. Shuri is related to Mihawk, I believe. Tragic.
-Brook is the realest, damn. His King declares war against the WG, and he just goes, "Understood," turns and walks off to prepare. Bruh. Brook is the best.
-Love the music focus here. Enhances the tragedy and makes you really want to see Brook kick the God's Knights asses in the present day.
-"If we finally snap for real, that shakin' is all you'll feel." IMO, this foreshadows Brook's Devil Fruit Awakening making the world rumble/shake like Luffy and Imu do through music. When Gear 5 or Full-Form Imu descend, everything starts bumping.
Brook has RARELY gotten truly angry in this series, and when he does, he's ferocious. Once Brook puts two and two together, and realizes Imu and the God's Knights are the ones who destroyed Esperia, and stole Shuri's life, he's going to POP OFF SO HARD. Awakening happens when your body and mind are in tune.
Brook's Awakening after this flashback.
-Big question left: how do we save Shuri from Imu? I think we already know.
In Egghead, Luffy's scars flew off his body. Scars, like the Seal/Mark of the Abyss, are inherently part of your skin; if Luffy can remove scars, why not the Mark?
When Loki killed Harald, IMO, what he truly needed to destroy was the Depths Covenant Imu had given Harald. This is why Harald died: Loki + Ragnir destroyed the Covenant Seal upon him.
So, what happens, if you destroy the Seal, after separating it from them?
Luffy pulls the Covenant Mark off.
Loki and Ragnir destroy it.
There ya go. Free Shuri.
However, at this point, all the of the signs pointing to Brook's Awakening make me believe this man is going to pop off, too.
While at first I believed Shuri would let the Straw Hats sail the Abyss, she needs her Mark to do so. Once her Mark of the Covenant is gone, she can't use the Abyss. BUT, I've been pushing Blackbeard using the Abyss with the Yami Yami no Mi.
I believe Davy Jones Locker is in the Abyss, and Davy Jones was thrown down there by Imu himself.
And many are speculating that Brook, due to his similarities to Teach, is a Davy.
Yami Yami no Mi... Yomi Yomi no Mi...
Brook's Awakening will allow him to sail the Abyss. Possible he's the boatman, Charon. Would fit him well.
We should see Brook's music free Shuri from the ice, and help her regain her sense of self. Then, Imu will try to kill her, like he did Saturn. To save her, Luffy pulls the Covenant Mark off, and Loki and Ragnir destroy it the way they did Harald and his Mark.
Shuri is free to join the Crew, and make Zoro go in the correct direction using her arrows.
BROOK'S AWAKENING IS COMING, YOHOHOHOHOHO
-Brook is the realest, damn. His King declares war against the WG, and he just goes, "Understood," turns and walks off to prepare. Bruh. Brook is the best.
-Love the music focus here. Enhances the tragedy and makes you really want to see Brook kick the God's Knights asses in the present day.
-"If we finally snap for real, that shakin' is all you'll feel." IMO, this foreshadows Brook's Devil Fruit Awakening making the world rumble/shake like Luffy and Imu do through music. When Gear 5 or Full-Form Imu descend, everything starts bumping.
Brook has RARELY gotten truly angry in this series, and when he does, he's ferocious. Once Brook puts two and two together, and realizes Imu and the God's Knights are the ones who destroyed Esperia, and stole Shuri's life, he's going to POP OFF SO HARD. Awakening happens when your body and mind are in tune.
Brook's Awakening after this flashback.
-Big question left: how do we save Shuri from Imu? I think we already know.
In Egghead, Luffy's scars flew off his body. Scars, like the Seal/Mark of the Abyss, are inherently part of your skin; if Luffy can remove scars, why not the Mark?
When Loki killed Harald, IMO, what he truly needed to destroy was the Depths Covenant Imu had given Harald. This is why Harald died: Loki + Ragnir destroyed the Covenant Seal upon him.
So, what happens, if you destroy the Seal, after separating it from them?
Luffy pulls the Covenant Mark off.
Loki and Ragnir destroy it.
There ya go. Free Shuri.
However, at this point, all the of the signs pointing to Brook's Awakening make me believe this man is going to pop off, too.
While at first I believed Shuri would let the Straw Hats sail the Abyss, she needs her Mark to do so. Once her Mark of the Covenant is gone, she can't use the Abyss. BUT, I've been pushing Blackbeard using the Abyss with the Yami Yami no Mi.
I believe Davy Jones Locker is in the Abyss, and Davy Jones was thrown down there by Imu himself.
And many are speculating that Brook, due to his similarities to Teach, is a Davy.
Yami Yami no Mi... Yomi Yomi no Mi...
Brook's Awakening will allow him to sail the Abyss. Possible he's the boatman, Charon. Would fit him well.
We should see Brook's music free Shuri from the ice, and help her regain her sense of self. Then, Imu will try to kill her, like he did Saturn. To save her, Luffy pulls the Covenant Mark off, and Loki and Ragnir destroy it the way they did Harald and his Mark.
Shuri is free to join the Crew, and make Zoro go in the correct direction using her arrows.
BROOK'S AWAKENING IS COMING, YOHOHOHOHOHO
If Esperia survives this, somehow, IMO it has to because Shuri made a deal with the devil to save her kingdom.
Shuri agrees to become a Celestial Dragon, and this happens.
Still waiting for the lore on her eyes and why they are important.
I highly doubt the God's Knight at the end is Shuri's real father, since Brook says the Celestial Dragon ship that visited Esperia drifted up there, and if he's a senior God's Knight, he could just use the Abyss to travel.
So I'm guessing Shuri's bio-dad has some eye stuff going on.
Maybe it's somebody from this guy's family?
They wear masks, because they have freaky eyes? Wouldn't explain why Gunko isn't wearing a mask, though. The fact we never saw the Celestial Dragon that showed up implies to me their eyes are also weird.
Shuri agrees to become a Celestial Dragon, and this happens.
Still waiting for the lore on her eyes and why they are important.
I highly doubt the God's Knight at the end is Shuri's real father, since Brook says the Celestial Dragon ship that visited Esperia drifted up there, and if he's a senior God's Knight, he could just use the Abyss to travel.
So I'm guessing Shuri's bio-dad has some eye stuff going on.
Maybe it's somebody from this guy's family?
They wear masks, because they have freaky eyes? Wouldn't explain why Gunko isn't wearing a mask, though. The fact we never saw the Celestial Dragon that showed up implies to me their eyes are also weird.
I think this chapter is really informative.
Its too overloaded . Imu , Mars and the new Holy knight guy planned it well ahead.
This actually comes to me who actually is Leuven ? Was he previous user of Yami Yami no mi , Davy clan or had personal vendatta against Imu.
Imu personally appearing opens ton of plot. Leuven personally might be really strong dude to have Holy knight and Gorosei appearing .
Its too overloaded . Imu , Mars and the new Holy knight guy planned it well ahead.
This actually comes to me who actually is Leuven ? Was he previous user of Yami Yami no mi , Davy clan or had personal vendatta against Imu.
Imu personally appearing opens ton of plot. Leuven personally might be really strong dude to have Holy knight and Gorosei appearing .
If Esperia survives this, somehow, IMO it has to because Shuri made a deal with the devil to save her kingdom.
Shuri agrees to become a Celestial Dragon, and this happens.
Still waiting for the lore on her eyes and why they are important.
I highly doubt the God's Knight at the end is Shuri's real father, since Brook says the Celestial Dragon ship that visited Esperia drifted up there, and if he's a senior God's Knight, he could just use the Abyss to travel.
So I'm guessing Shuri's bio-dad has some eye stuff going on.
Maybe it's somebody from this guy's family?
They wear masks, because they have freaky eyes? Wouldn't explain why Gunko isn't wearing a mask, though. The fact we never saw the Celestial Dragon that showed up implies to me their eyes are also weird.
Shuri agrees to become a Celestial Dragon, and this happens.
Still waiting for the lore on her eyes and why they are important.
I highly doubt the God's Knight at the end is Shuri's real father, since Brook says the Celestial Dragon ship that visited Esperia drifted up there, and if he's a senior God's Knight, he could just use the Abyss to travel.
So I'm guessing Shuri's bio-dad has some eye stuff going on.
Maybe it's somebody from this guy's family?
They wear masks, because they have freaky eyes? Wouldn't explain why Gunko isn't wearing a mask, though. The fact we never saw the Celestial Dragon that showed up implies to me their eyes are also weird.
I'd hate it, but it's possible.
If Candelle was a God's Knight, she could fake her death by being buried, and then being dug out by other God's Knights.
I just really don't see how it fits the plot at this point.
Brook is a great judge of character, and Candelle seemed to be very involved with the Kingdom.
Unless Imu was THAT OBSESSED with Esperia he was willing to have a God's Knight stationed in the country for 20 plus years, I just don't see it.
And that's not how Imu operates when there's something he wants, he just takes that shit.
Candelle is a Shakky/Ginny situation.
Good woman kidnapped by trash.
If Candelle was a God's Knight, she could fake her death by being buried, and then being dug out by other God's Knights.
I just really don't see how it fits the plot at this point.
Brook is a great judge of character, and Candelle seemed to be very involved with the Kingdom.
Unless Imu was THAT OBSESSED with Esperia he was willing to have a God's Knight stationed in the country for 20 plus years, I just don't see it.
And that's not how Imu operates when there's something he wants, he just takes that shit.
Candelle is a Shakky/Ginny situation.
Good woman kidnapped by trash.
FS user at 14 yrs old would put entire navy to shame. Not a single advanced observation haki user in sight all the haki prodigies had to be taught by the marine but actually pirate in oda's mind Garp chuujo 
All what you care about is agenda and powerscaling, we don’t give a shit, either discuss the chapter like an adult or stop getting us off topic, you’re an eyesore and an annoyance.
If Esperia survives this, somehow, IMO it has to because Shuri made a deal with the devil to save her kingdom.
Shuri agrees to become a Celestial Dragon, and this happens.
Still waiting for the lore on her eyes and why they are important.
I highly doubt the God's Knight at the end is Shuri's real father, since Brook says the Celestial Dragon ship that visited Esperia drifted up there, and if he's a senior God's Knight, he could just use the Abyss to travel.
So I'm guessing Shuri's bio-dad has some eye stuff going on.
Maybe it's somebody from this guy's family?
They wear masks, because they have freaky eyes? Wouldn't explain why Gunko isn't wearing a mask, though. The fact we never saw the Celestial Dragon that showed up implies to me their eyes are also weird.
Shuri agrees to become a Celestial Dragon, and this happens.
Still waiting for the lore on her eyes and why they are important.
I highly doubt the God's Knight at the end is Shuri's real father, since Brook says the Celestial Dragon ship that visited Esperia drifted up there, and if he's a senior God's Knight, he could just use the Abyss to travel.
So I'm guessing Shuri's bio-dad has some eye stuff going on.
Maybe it's somebody from this guy's family?
They wear masks, because they have freaky eyes? Wouldn't explain why Gunko isn't wearing a mask, though. The fact we never saw the Celestial Dragon that showed up implies to me their eyes are also weird.
You're turning into yapplier again.
Changing subjects and going into uneccessary
specifics 😴
Next you change the subject to "its about physical strength bro"
What is it now? Why make the comparision between characters with plenty of ambition who trained their asses off to imply same logic should apply to HK, just to pretend next post the complete opposite?
Yes , Gunko is stronger than that squirrel which only deemed Loki worthy and currently is clashing with Imu - who is presumably using his real body
