Chapter Discussion ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1185 : Leave Them Be

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

And Franky still doesn't know his dad

When we get backstory on how Scien did everything he could to save Franky's Mom with MADS from a fatal disease, but then, the WG stole and destroyed his research...

Then, we won't feel funky.

We'll feel gunky.

Queen is like Mr. Freeze from Batman the Animated Series

His wife died because the world chose profit over life.

Scien abandoned Franky to keep the World Government from going after him, when he joined Kaido's crew to destroy the WG that destroyed his wife's hope of a cure.

This is poetic, considering Sora, Sanji's mother, died giving him his humanity, while Sanji fears being a cyborg, while Franky retained his humanity to fight back in Tom's name, by becoming a cyborg.

This is why Queen is the Plague: he spreads disease, out of the despair of losing his wife to the disease he didn't cure.

King and Queen will have their redemption arcs.

Queen and Franky will fight as father and son.

 

[wordy]

If Candel really was assaulted by the CDs and Reuven really did raise someone else's child... kinda fucked up to have Brook making jokes about cucking him only a few chapters earlier.
Oda is terrible at shaping tone. The panty jokes jfc

 

[S.W317]

This clown actually saying discuss OP a manga for CHILDREN like an "adult" cuz I dissed his fav char no way

NO ONE give a rats ass bout your crying go back to reddit if I hurt your feelings. Stupid trash crying ass

What I’m saying is that what we should discuss the actual chapter, the interesting bit, who is Gunko/Shuri’s real dad? Why was she adopted into the Manmayer if she was just a random princess? It seems aside from Loki/Harald and the York Vegapunk, not anyone can just become a celestial dragon.

The reason why Harald and Loki were even considered as candidates is because Douzan, Loki and Harald’s ancestor was Imu’s friend and Imu always wanted them as a part of their alliance against the ancient kingdom.

This leads me to believe that Gunko wasn’t adopted into the Manmayer, SHE is a Manmayer through her real father(which is the celestial dragon that visited Esperia following which Candelle got ill)

 

[Peppercat]

So if Mars is there, I assume all the Gorosei dont excel at their field but hey represent the worst part of it?


Saturn was science and the main issue was to weaponize science than use it for good.
Mars is environment and his demon form is connected to plagues or disease, which would fit into what is happening in Esperia if he is pollution and plague.
Peter for example is also agriculture and a giant worm too so I assume he would be famine.
I wouldnt be surprised if Warcury was the brains behind Ohara.
And I believe Bakotsu were related to how people mistreated animals for produce who returned to haunt the people.

I wonder, could you connect these to Horsemen somehow? I know there are 4 not 5 but still.

Famine, War, Death, Conquest. Maybe you could fit Pestilence in there.
I can see Warcury as War if he represents the bad of Justice. Injustice.