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@Ravagerblade @sanjikun @NAMELESS Wake up, ding-dongs! Time for your weekly dose of “Yet another MAGAt popped for pedophilia while trans people continue to NOT abuse children” medicine…just be careful not to overdose on the many, many, MANY examples of your guys committing heinous sexual crimes against underage kids
@Ravagerblade @sanjikun @NAMELESS Wake up, ding-dongs! Time for your weekly dose of “Yet another MAGAt popped for pedophilia while trans people continue to NOT abuse children” medicine…just be careful not to overdose on the many, many, MANY examples of your guys committing heinous sexual crimes against underage kids
Hey rightists (and sloppy leftists) If you are too hot right now, know that even a communist society full solar punk would probably not be enough to "reverse the polarity" on the global warming of the planet on a short notice.
Which means it is not only too late, but we are stupidely screwed if you and everyone like you keep that stupid liberal ideology up and we do not get rid of capitalism together right freaking now.
Well.. That is if you want to let something to your kids of course. If you don't love them, go ahead, you are doing a great job.
Which means it is not only too late, but we are stupidely screwed if you and everyone like you keep that stupid liberal ideology up and we do not get rid of capitalism together right freaking now.
Well.. That is if you want to let something to your kids of course. If you don't love them, go ahead, you are doing a great job.
You only know how to guilt-trip. Of course I'm concerned for the world my kids will inherit. The fact that you, someone who states he'll likely never have sex or be with someone, is trying to appeal to people in such a manner is kind of sickening.
Ironic though that you talk about stupid liberal ideology, I think this is something we agree on. I don't want communism, but I don't want our current free-market profiteering either. Every day I get closer and closer to believing democracy was a mistake.
Just send us a powerful warlord that I can be all awooga *bangs on chest* for and let it be finished.
Ironic though that you talk about stupid liberal ideology, I think this is something we agree on. I don't want communism, but I don't want our current free-market profiteering either. Every day I get closer and closer to believing democracy was a mistake.
Just send us a powerful warlord that I can be all awooga *bangs on chest* for and let it be finished.
What Fuck free market?
Hayek and his ilk pretty much established State sponsored monopolies
The VERY thing Adam Smith warned about
Notice how Facebook supports the Social Media ban AFTER Tik Tok beat their asses in Gen Z?
This is the type of "pulling the ladder" laws that Adam Smith would be Opposed to
Neoliberalism Is Not Free Market, it's feudalism
Hayek and his ilk pretty much established State sponsored monopolies
The VERY thing Adam Smith warned about
Notice how Facebook supports the Social Media ban AFTER Tik Tok beat their asses in Gen Z?
This is the type of "pulling the ladder" laws that Adam Smith would be Opposed to
Neoliberalism Is Not Free Market, it's feudalism
I only share what I would do for myself. How I would talk to my reactionnary past self. My goal is not to give you guilt, but the opposite. The moment you will understand that your vision of the world can be bent before your eyes without you being aware of it, you will understand why it is vital to search constantly for the most ethical path.
Again, for the 1000th time, I had anti-leftist beliefs too once.
I have been with many women and I will probably see many more in the future if I'm not dead in the next 10 years. I'm simply choosing my time. And this has nothing to do with the conversation, so stay focused.
Then help us take down capitalism, become an anarchist and understand the concepts of dominations. Communism is just one solution (depending if your are talking about the dictatorship of the proleteriat or not).
But do not make the mistake to think that you can go liberatarian and get rid of the horrors of capitalism, it's the same freaking thing, just more oppressive, just more destructive, just more fascist.
That would be feodalism and we tried it already. Trust me, you don't want that back.
But if you want to experience it you can still go to japan, they have a similar system with the yakuza, just be sure to not get your hand chopped off.
Again, for the 1000th time, I had anti-leftist beliefs too once.
I have been with many women and I will probably see many more in the future if I'm not dead in the next 10 years. I'm simply choosing my time. And this has nothing to do with the conversation, so stay focused.
Then help us take down capitalism, become an anarchist and understand the concepts of dominations. Communism is just one solution (depending if your are talking about the dictatorship of the proleteriat or not).
But do not make the mistake to think that you can go liberatarian and get rid of the horrors of capitalism, it's the same freaking thing, just more oppressive, just more destructive, just more fascist.
That would be feodalism and we tried it already. Trust me, you don't want that back.
But if you want to experience it you can still go to japan, they have a similar system with the yakuza, just be sure to not get your hand chopped off.
Free-Market is a consequence of capitalism. It's is part of the system. It's competition over cooperation. It's private interest over collective ones.
It's the attempt to regulate the world's economy through global and interconnected power of the private ownership of the means of production, not the worldwide collectivisation.
So again. It's capitalism.
It's the attempt to regulate the world's economy through global and interconnected power of the private ownership of the means of production, not the worldwide collectivisation.
So again. It's capitalism.
My point was that given how you've insinuated you probably won't have a family, trying to guilt trip people through their children feels sinister. I may disagree with much of what you say, and you may disagree with me, but never assume that my ideas do not factor in my kids.
I am far from a libertarian. I went through a spate when I was in my early 20s, but the extreme focus on individual liberty above duty to your community is abhorrent. Whilst I know many good Americans, I also know many who think way too much about themselves, how things will impact just them, how much money they have, and how decisions are good for them. However, they never consider the wider impact on others because of individual liberty trumping everything else. I can't agree with that.
Communism, however, is not the solution.
I see the flaws in hyper-capitalism. Ultimately, all resources flow one-way. My issue is not with reallocation of resources though. I just think that there are too many monopolies that make the market ultimately unfair. Hyper-capitalism relies on a worker underclass that has no social mobility.
Fuse the libertarian views with that and you essentially get sociopaths who take actions that personally enrich them and actively harm others. And before someone gets mad, this is not about individual small business owners. I love small businesses for they tend to be more ethical. I'm talking large corpos who have legislature designed to protect them from any culpability, enabling scummy, morally dubious practices.
Ultimately however, if any of you are familiar with Vilfredo Pareto and his sociological cycle theory centred on the elite social class, I think our biggest problem is that we live in a world which elevates and idolises the values embodied by foxes when what this world needs are lions.
I am far from a libertarian. I went through a spate when I was in my early 20s, but the extreme focus on individual liberty above duty to your community is abhorrent. Whilst I know many good Americans, I also know many who think way too much about themselves, how things will impact just them, how much money they have, and how decisions are good for them. However, they never consider the wider impact on others because of individual liberty trumping everything else. I can't agree with that.
Communism, however, is not the solution.
I see the flaws in hyper-capitalism. Ultimately, all resources flow one-way. My issue is not with reallocation of resources though. I just think that there are too many monopolies that make the market ultimately unfair. Hyper-capitalism relies on a worker underclass that has no social mobility.
Fuse the libertarian views with that and you essentially get sociopaths who take actions that personally enrich them and actively harm others. And before someone gets mad, this is not about individual small business owners. I love small businesses for they tend to be more ethical. I'm talking large corpos who have legislature designed to protect them from any culpability, enabling scummy, morally dubious practices.
Ultimately however, if any of you are familiar with Vilfredo Pareto and his sociological cycle theory centred on the elite social class, I think our biggest problem is that we live in a world which elevates and idolises the values embodied by foxes when what this world needs are lions.
An aspect yes, but within a materialist approach, a direct consequence of capitalism in a multipolar world.
Indeed. It's not what I said. But capitals can eventually lead to wealth, although I don't think you really understand what capitals are.
People with little capitals can't have a lot of wealth by nature of the system. If someone with little capital ends up having a lot of wealth (like winning at the lotery for example) they will end up created value out of that wealth thus making their capitals flourish (or their money will be gone in a matter of years).
A capital is form of value that can expand the reach of other capitals. The system is rigged in a way where people with little to no capitals will end up being marginalized from the way of accessing said capitals
In other words. We are not equal in the free market and the free market is never and will never be truly free.
Capitalism is a rigged game
Our ideas ALWAYS have an impact.
- Our material position reflects on what we consume.
- What we consume reflects on what we think.
- What we think reflects on what we do.
- What we do reflects on others
&
- Others impact us too
We are not void beings that can create random thought out of nothingness into emptyness without any physical or sociological repercussions. Everything we do or think, no matter how small, has an impact. It's the point of political debates.
Right now, you are part of billions of people who are preventing the world from moving ahead toward communism (the stateless society, not the dictatorship of the proleteriat) and REAL paradise. Why ? Because it seems like you prefer to listen to testimonies and your biases rather than reflecting ethically on our belief systems.
Changing is hard. I know it very well. So I will never judge anyone for wanting to change or wanting to be a better person. Some will be suspicious on my side. But not me. I'm genuinely trusting everyone to do the right thing.
But don't ask me to be cool if what you do is go against the best solutions to stop the horrors of this world.. If you are sharing an ideology that risk endangering our future (no matter the generation), I will be calling it out and children will be in the balance since they are the future.
Politics is about life and death. It's not a coffee break discussion.
I anticipated because it is the next big wahou of rightists when they don't get their ways. Glad you are more social than I thought.
Again, it depends on what you mean by communism. Because if you asked me, I would also say that yes, communism is not the solution yet, I want to create a communist society.
Sadly, there is a bit of a problem of vocabulary on the left on communism. Communism can either mean the stateless society that will come of a social and collective revolution (what I want) or it can mean the mean to arrive to such society : the dictatorshipship of the proleteriat (what I don't really want)
Hypercapitalism is just a version of capitalism. Monopolies are feature of the structure of the system. If you want to get rid to capitalism you will end up with endless regulations that will contradict themselve, make everyone suffer and just piss everyone up while capitalist will still find a way to get above and have monopolies (which is pretty much the state we are in at the moment). Capitalism will then enter in crisis until the ruling class decides to refresh the board with a big war.
What this world need is ants.
Not foxes, not Lion, ants. Collective individuals that can work together to fight better.
Foxes hunt from above to survive
Lions hunt from the hiddings and eat first
Ants understand the fields and collectively build something greater than themselves to give each member a chance of survival.
Indeed. It's not what I said. But capitals can eventually lead to wealth, although I don't think you really understand what capitals are.
People with little capitals can't have a lot of wealth by nature of the system. If someone with little capital ends up having a lot of wealth (like winning at the lotery for example) they will end up created value out of that wealth thus making their capitals flourish (or their money will be gone in a matter of years).
A capital is form of value that can expand the reach of other capitals. The system is rigged in a way where people with little to no capitals will end up being marginalized from the way of accessing said capitals
In other words. We are not equal in the free market and the free market is never and will never be truly free.
Capitalism is a rigged game
Our ideas ALWAYS have an impact.
- Our material position reflects on what we consume.
- What we consume reflects on what we think.
- What we think reflects on what we do.
- What we do reflects on others
&
- Others impact us too
We are not void beings that can create random thought out of nothingness into emptyness without any physical or sociological repercussions. Everything we do or think, no matter how small, has an impact. It's the point of political debates.
Right now, you are part of billions of people who are preventing the world from moving ahead toward communism (the stateless society, not the dictatorship of the proleteriat) and REAL paradise. Why ? Because it seems like you prefer to listen to testimonies and your biases rather than reflecting ethically on our belief systems.
Changing is hard. I know it very well. So I will never judge anyone for wanting to change or wanting to be a better person. Some will be suspicious on my side. But not me. I'm genuinely trusting everyone to do the right thing.
But don't ask me to be cool if what you do is go against the best solutions to stop the horrors of this world.. If you are sharing an ideology that risk endangering our future (no matter the generation), I will be calling it out and children will be in the balance since they are the future.
Politics is about life and death. It's not a coffee break discussion.
I anticipated because it is the next big wahou of rightists when they don't get their ways. Glad you are more social than I thought.
Again, it depends on what you mean by communism. Because if you asked me, I would also say that yes, communism is not the solution yet, I want to create a communist society.
Sadly, there is a bit of a problem of vocabulary on the left on communism. Communism can either mean the stateless society that will come of a social and collective revolution (what I want) or it can mean the mean to arrive to such society : the dictatorshipship of the proleteriat (what I don't really want)
Hypercapitalism is just a version of capitalism. Monopolies are feature of the structure of the system. If you want to get rid to capitalism you will end up with endless regulations that will contradict themselve, make everyone suffer and just piss everyone up while capitalist will still find a way to get above and have monopolies (which is pretty much the state we are in at the moment). Capitalism will then enter in crisis until the ruling class decides to refresh the board with a big war.
What this world need is ants.
Not foxes, not Lion, ants. Collective individuals that can work together to fight better.
Foxes hunt from above to survive
Lions hunt from the hiddings and eat first
Ants understand the fields and collectively build something greater than themselves to give each member a chance of survival.
An aspect yes, but within a materialist approach, a direct consequence of capitalism in a multipolar world.
Indeed. It's not what I said. But capitals can eventually lead to wealth, although I don't think you really understand what capitals are.
People with little capitals can't have a lot of wealth by nature of the system. If someone with little capital ends up having a lot of wealth (like winning at the lotery for example) they will end up created value out of that wealth thus making their capitals flourish (or their money will be gone in a matter of years).
A capital is form of value that can expand the reach of other capitals. The system is rigged in a way where people with little to no capitals will end up being marginalized from the way of accessing said capitals
In other words. We are not equal in the free market and the free market is never and will never be truly free.
Capitalism is a rigged game
Our ideas ALWAYS have an impact.
- Our material position reflects on what we consume.
- What we consume reflects on what we think.
- What we think reflects on what we do.
- What we do reflects on others
&
- Others impact us too
We are not void beings that can create random thought out of nothingness into emptyness without any physical or sociological repercussions. Everything we do or think, no matter how small, has an impact. It's the point of political debates.
Right now, you are part of billions of people who are preventing the world from moving ahead toward communism (the stateless society, not the dictatorship of the proleteriat) and REAL paradise. Why ? Because it seems like you prefer to listen to testimonies and your biases rather than reflecting ethically on our belief systems.
Changing is hard. I know it very well. So I will never judge anyone for wanting to change or wanting to be a better person. Some will be suspicious on my side. But not me. I'm genuinely trusting everyone to do the right thing.
But don't ask me to be cool if what you do is go against the best solutions to stop the horrors of this world.. If you are sharing an ideology that risk endangering our future (no matter the generation), I will be calling it out and children will be in the balance since they are the future.
Politics is about life and death. It's not a coffee break discussion.
I anticipated because it is the next big wahou of rightists when they don't get their ways. Glad you are more social than I thought.
Again, it depends on what you mean by communism. Because if you asked me, I would also say that yes, communism is not the solution yet, I want to create a communist society.
Sadly, there is a bit of a problem of vocabulary on the left on communism. Communism can either mean the stateless society that will come of a social and collective revolution (what I want) or it can mean the mean to arrive to such society : the dictatorshipship of the proleteriat (what I don't really want)
Hypercapitalism is just a version of capitalism. Monopolies are feature of the structure of the system. If you want to get rid to capitalism you will end up with endless regulations that will contradict themselve, make everyone suffer and just piss everyone up while capitalist will still find a way to get above and have monopolies (which is pretty much the state we are in at the moment). Capitalism will then enter in crisis until the ruling class decides to refresh the board with a big war.
What this world need is ants.
Not foxes, not Lion, ants. Collective individuals that can work together to fight better.
Foxes hunt from above to survive
Lions hunt from the hiddings and eat first
Ants understand the fields and collectively build something greater than themselves to give each member a chance of survival.
Indeed. It's not what I said. But capitals can eventually lead to wealth, although I don't think you really understand what capitals are.
People with little capitals can't have a lot of wealth by nature of the system. If someone with little capital ends up having a lot of wealth (like winning at the lotery for example) they will end up created value out of that wealth thus making their capitals flourish (or their money will be gone in a matter of years).
A capital is form of value that can expand the reach of other capitals. The system is rigged in a way where people with little to no capitals will end up being marginalized from the way of accessing said capitals
In other words. We are not equal in the free market and the free market is never and will never be truly free.
Capitalism is a rigged game
Our ideas ALWAYS have an impact.
- Our material position reflects on what we consume.
- What we consume reflects on what we think.
- What we think reflects on what we do.
- What we do reflects on others
&
- Others impact us too
We are not void beings that can create random thought out of nothingness into emptyness without any physical or sociological repercussions. Everything we do or think, no matter how small, has an impact. It's the point of political debates.
Right now, you are part of billions of people who are preventing the world from moving ahead toward communism (the stateless society, not the dictatorship of the proleteriat) and REAL paradise. Why ? Because it seems like you prefer to listen to testimonies and your biases rather than reflecting ethically on our belief systems.
Changing is hard. I know it very well. So I will never judge anyone for wanting to change or wanting to be a better person. Some will be suspicious on my side. But not me. I'm genuinely trusting everyone to do the right thing.
But don't ask me to be cool if what you do is go against the best solutions to stop the horrors of this world.. If you are sharing an ideology that risk endangering our future (no matter the generation), I will be calling it out and children will be in the balance since they are the future.
Politics is about life and death. It's not a coffee break discussion.
I anticipated because it is the next big wahou of rightists when they don't get their ways. Glad you are more social than I thought.
Again, it depends on what you mean by communism. Because if you asked me, I would also say that yes, communism is not the solution yet, I want to create a communist society.
Sadly, there is a bit of a problem of vocabulary on the left on communism. Communism can either mean the stateless society that will come of a social and collective revolution (what I want) or it can mean the mean to arrive to such society : the dictatorshipship of the proleteriat (what I don't really want)
Hypercapitalism is just a version of capitalism. Monopolies are feature of the structure of the system. If you want to get rid to capitalism you will end up with endless regulations that will contradict themselve, make everyone suffer and just piss everyone up while capitalist will still find a way to get above and have monopolies (which is pretty much the state we are in at the moment). Capitalism will then enter in crisis until the ruling class decides to refresh the board with a big war.
What this world need is ants.
Not foxes, not Lion, ants. Collective individuals that can work together to fight better.
Foxes hunt from above to survive
Lions hunt from the hiddings and eat first
Ants understand the fields and collectively build something greater than themselves to give each member a chance of survival.
If I spoke of my ideal world, there is room for protections to those who are truly needy. Fiscally, I agree with that, but there needs to be significant oversight and limits to prevent exploitation of those who would steal those resources when they don't need them.
I sincerely believe prosperity can be found through strong, righteous rulership. We do not think it possible because we live in a world full of foxes.
I think one should be able to accrue wealth, but we need to promote social values that encourage those who are strong to assist the weak rather than solely pursue self-gain above all else. Idealistic, maybe, but in my personal life I use the little I have to better those who I have a duty of care towards. If I had more, I'd try to better my wider community.
Creating rigid governmental controls over every aspect of life will not help that though. It will just give the greedy an outlet for control.
Society as a whole needs to change on a values level. Government systems cannot force it. Creating a high trust society of likeminded socially conscious individuals would do wonders.
How we get there is perhaps how we differ. I guess I am also naive though, just in a non-leftist way.