Character Discussion Zoro thought Sanji was more of a conqueror than himself

#23
As ever, Sanjibros are the living embodiment of this



He‘s managed to get the same powerup five years, two arcs and over a hundred chapters later than Luffy and Zoro got it, and its one that every man and their dog will have in the future because Oda‘s made the terrible decision to require it to properly beat the HK and Gorosei regen.
Considering how people made up fan made contradictory tick boxes for defining who should have conquers as well as proudly spammed images from baratie to justify it while completely misunderstanding the arc the cause of celebrations are justified.
 
#24
Considering how people made up fan made contradictory tick boxes for defining who should have conquers as well as proudly spammed images from baratie to justify it while completely misunderstanding the arc the cause of celebrations are justified.
You right. I'm actually surprised Oda pulled this off. It's giving me the impression he suddenly grew a greater love for Sanji after WCI lol.
 
#25
Considering how people made up fan made contradictory tick boxes for defining who should have conquers as well as proudly spammed images from baratie to justify it while completely misunderstanding the arc the cause of celebrations are justified.
Exactly, imagine sanji fans celebrating their vindication after hearing the same takes that he himself made and ridicules us for having.
 
#26
As ever, Sanjibros are the living embodiment of this



He‘s managed to get the same powerup five years, two arcs and over a hundred chapters later than Luffy and Zoro got it, and its one that every man and their dog will have in the future because Oda‘s made the terrible decision to require it to properly beat the HK and Gorosei regen.
No it was actually emberrasing for the other wing to be equel to cocless sanjino, now he needs another PU to stay equel to a cook that doesnt train
 
#27
Not at all. Oda uses it in a joking way, that Zoro is missing something obvious, but it's a really simple point that first person and third person are very different. In real life this is not unlike, say, a physical therapist going to another physical therapist for treatment or a tennis player needing advice from a coach who wasn't nearly as accomplished as they are.
You make no sense.

A physical therapist would know they have an injury even before going to one for treatment. Of course self treatment isn't the best. Oda "joke" was always related to ignorance. Luffy didn't knew what haki was when he started using it, conqueror specially, it's different with Zoro and specially with Sanji right now that is actually seeking it. Imagine Sanji start using CoC and not realizing it is CoC. It won't happen.
 
#28
You make no sense.

A physical therapist would know they have an injury even before going to one for treatment. Of course self treatment isn't the best. Oda "joke" was always related to ignorance. Luffy didn't knew what haki was when he started using it, conqueror specially, it's different with Zoro and specially with Sanji right now that is actually seeking it. Imagine Sanji start using CoC and not realizing it is CoC. It won't happen.
I'm speaking through learning and experience lol. Self diagnosis, for many reasons, can be a pretty serious mistake no matter how good you are. First person is always different.

https://psnet.ahrq.gov/web-mm/doctor-dont-treat-thyself

Anyway, if you look at any example of a character awakening, it is they who are told. Usually it's because they haven't experienced Haki yet, but this is the case nonetheless. Sanji,. meanwhile, sincerely thought himself capable of it despite being a Haki user. As we aren't in the story to know how it feels, all we can conclude is from these examples.
 
#29
I'm speaking through learning and experience lol. Self diagnosis, for many reasons, can be a pretty serious mistake no matter how good you are. First person is always different.

https://psnet.ahrq.gov/web-mm/doctor-dont-treat-thyself

Anyway, if you look at any example of a character awakening, it is they who are told. Usually it's because they haven't experienced Haki yet, but this is the case nonetheless. Sanji,. meanwhile, sincerely thought himself capable of it despite being a Haki user. As we aren't in the story to know how it feels, all we can conclude is from these examples.
This bum has been coping 24/7 since the chapter dropped because he wasted 2 decades gassing up a failure of a character and agenda 🤣🤣
 
#34
I'm speaking through learning and experience lol. Self diagnosis, for many reasons, can be a pretty serious mistake no matter how good you are. First person is always different.

https://psnet.ahrq.gov/web-mm/doctor-dont-treat-thyself

Anyway, if you look at any example of a character awakening, it is they who are told. Usually it's because they haven't experienced Haki yet, but this is the case nonetheless. Sanji,. meanwhile, sincerely thought himself capable of it despite being a Haki user. As we aren't in the story to know how it feels, all we can conclude is from these examples.
You make even less sense. There are cases and cases. No one go to the doctor over a weak cold or even flu. People go over some more serious cases. But regardless the case we do our first self analysis and then we decide if we should or not go to the doctor.

You do realize there was a first thing for everything right. First person to unlock haki can't be told by anyone that he did it. He figures himself. So you got no point in here.
 
#35
You make even less sense. There are cases and cases. No one go to the doctor over a weak cold or even flu. People go over some more serious cases. But regardless the case we do our first self analysis and then we decide if we should or not go to the doctor.

You do realize there was a first thing for everything right. First person to unlock haki can't be told by anyone that he did it. He figures himself. So you got no point in here.
1. You didn't read the article to understand the point

2. Who was the first person to use CoC? In which chapter were they named lmao
 
#37
As ever, Sanjibros are the living embodiment of this

He‘s managed to get the same powerup five years, two arcs and over a hundred chapters later than Luffy and Zoro got it, and its one that every man and their dog will have in the future
Dawg, your entire Sanji posting history is a fucking depreciation algorithm. I genuinely do not know how you fail to see your own bias.

No setup? Hypetool.

Setup arrives? Leeching.

Setup pays off? Late, common and plot-required.

Every Sanji W leaves your mind factory with a disappointing performance label already attached.

I don’t think Sanji’s willpower or ambition stands out in any way among the Strawhats [...] and he has canonically gave up on his dream more than any of the others.
For years his will and ambition were supposedly nothing special. Now Oda has Gaban directly challenging him to become a king, and your first response is that CoC has become bargain-bin Haki that every man and his dog will own.

Incredible timing. You declared the criterion worthless the moment he cleared it.

Does great character moments mean more bitching and whining about his boring ass family?

The best character moment Sanji has had in years was when he asked Robin to save him. The Vinsmoke plotline has been dismal. A melodramatic, cheap copy of Robin’s vastly superior flashback.
Character focus? Boring family bullshit and a cheap Robin copy.

Sanji’s been a hypetool longer than most on this forum have been alive.
Combat portrayal? Lifelong hypetool.

Nah it’s just top tier leeching
Fans drew power implications from Gaban being positioned as Sanji’s Roger Pirate counterpart? Top-tier leeching.

Now the Gaban setup is cashing out and you have reached the final phase: “Actually, it is five years late and means nothing.”

You are for sure not some neutral reader observing Sanji fans succumb to agenda. You simply do not like the character. Every development enters the same agenda grinder and comes out worthless regardless of what Oda draws.

The funniest part is how quickly this standard disappears when Mihawk enters the room.

We’ve had as much for Mihawk as we’ve had for Dragon. A bit more for Mihawk, really.

Both will play their roles when it‘s actually time for them to do so.
Oh, waiting for future payoff is valid now?

Mihawk can spend over a thousand chapters farming aura from a title, a black blade and a Shanks rivalry from the fossil record, and your answer is “wait until his time.” 💀

Mihawk’s swordsmanship is the best because he beats all other swordsmen in fights.
Which on-panel fights?

Where are these mythical victories? Did his title card beat them offscreen?

Mihawk has no completed on-panel top-tier fight and no named top-tier victory. His visible win résumé is East Blue Zoro and fodder. He is the biggest leeching piece of shit in the manga. He leeches off Shanks, Zoro’s dream and a title whose supporting résumé Oda basically forgot to draw for 3 decades

Yet you bank his entire endgame payoff upfront. “His time will come.” “He beats every swordsman.” Pure faith-based scaling.

Sanji gets explicit setup and every panel is taxed lol. Mihawk gets a blank cheque for shit he has never done.

Tell me you are aware of your double standards

Spare us the “agenda piece warped your understanding” sermon. You have spent years shitting on Sanji’s ambition, writing, feats and portrayal. Meanwhile, the temple spent half a decade treating CoC and kingly ambition as the caste wall separating him from Zoro.

Now Oda is taking a dump on that wall and it’s time the clowns pay up, so wtf are you on about

Of course people are dancing on the rubble.

Btw, sure, prove me wrong with the equally long catalogue of posts where you brought this same energy against rampant Zoro wank. I am sure those receipts are stored beside Mihawk’s on-panel victories against anyone who isn’t a mid tier…
 
#38
Dawg, your entire Sanji posting history is a fucking depreciation algorithm. I genuinely do not know how you fail to see your own bias.

No setup? Hypetool.

Setup arrives? Leeching.

Setup pays off? Late, common and plot-required.

Every Sanji W leaves your mind factory with a disappointing performance label already attached.



For years his will and ambition were supposedly nothing special. Now Oda has Gaban directly challenging him to become a king, and your first response is that CoC has become bargain-bin Haki that every man and his dog will own.

Incredible timing. You declared the criterion worthless the moment he cleared it.



Character focus? Boring family bullshit and a cheap Robin copy.



Combat portrayal? Lifelong hypetool.



Fans drew power implications from Gaban being positioned as Sanji’s Roger Pirate counterpart? Top-tier leeching.

Now the Gaban setup is cashing out and you have reached the final phase: “Actually, it is five years late and means nothing.”

You are for sure not some neutral reader observing Sanji fans succumb to agenda. You simply do not like the character. Every development enters the same agenda grinder and comes out worthless regardless of what Oda draws.

The funniest part is how quickly this standard disappears when Mihawk enters the room.



Oh, waiting for future payoff is valid now?

Mihawk can spend over a thousand chapters farming aura from a title, a black blade and a Shanks rivalry from the fossil record, and your answer is “wait until his time.” 💀



Which on-panel fights?

Where are these mythical victories? Did his title card beat them offscreen?

Mihawk has no completed on-panel top-tier fight and no named top-tier victory. His visible win résumé is East Blue Zoro and fodder. He is the biggest leeching piece of shit in the manga. He leeches off Shanks, Zoro’s dream and a title whose supporting résumé Oda basically forgot to draw for 3 decades

Yet you bank his entire endgame payoff upfront. “His time will come.” “He beats every swordsman.” Pure faith-based scaling.

Sanji gets explicit setup and every panel is taxed lol. Mihawk gets a blank cheque for shit he has never done.

Tell me you are aware of your double standards

Spare us the “agenda piece warped your understanding” sermon. You have spent years shitting on Sanji’s ambition, writing, feats and portrayal. Meanwhile, the temple spent half a decade treating CoC and kingly ambition as the caste wall separating him from Zoro.

Now Oda is taking a dump on that wall and it’s time the clowns pay up, so wtf are you on about

Of course people are dancing on the rubble.

Btw, sure, prove me wrong with the equally long catalogue of posts where you brought this same energy against rampant Zoro wank. I am sure those receipts are stored beside Mihawk’s on-panel victories against anyone who isn’t a mid tier…
Fuarking hell absolutely destroyed to Kingdom Come and the other farter:gokulaugh::gokulaugh:

Comparing Dragon to kekhawk who is Not treated by Oda like him at all Cherry ontop

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#40
Fuarking hell absolutely destroyed to Kingdom Come and the other farter:gokulaugh::gokulaugh:

Comparing Dragon to kekhawk who is Not treated by Oda like him at all Cherry ontop

@Doggo @Rurushu @Sir Yasheen
Too long, didnt read.
All the Sanji hating posts are the same headcanon criterias that get changed depending on hating convenience.

Maybe he didnt read the balance patch.
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