Super Role Madness Game Of Thrones: A Song Of Ice and Fire

if I follow the logic of Maester Luwin being the fakeclaim of Qyburn
I do see a way where Caitlyn Stark could be a fakeclaim of Cersei
both of the fakeclaims would be tied to the starks household while both wolfroles would be actually tied to the lannisters while having the overall similar position (maesters and mothers)

but if I remember correctly the first time charlie even spoke about his ability was on d1 when people supected Flower and he said he could maybe save flower, flower at that point already mentioned she is bran stark, so charlie is consistent with his story in that sense, that he started talking about it when the stark children got claimed



atm my town lean of charlie is mostly because of his genuine sounding tone, so it's not much
I might iso him and see if there is anyhting else which might be affilication indicative


So when i mess around saying that about brienne, i'm ridiculous but when it's against me it's not
 
The Orca - 4
Lord Melkor - 6
Alwaysmind - 2
Yo Tan Wa - 1
Michelle - 1
Charlie - 1

Tayenne: Alwaysmindd
Worst: Lord Melkor
AL sama: The Orca
Lord Melkor: The Orca
Mr. Reloaded: The Orca
Great Potato: The Orca > Charlie
Michelle: The Orca
Charlie: Yo Tan Wa
Saka: Melkor
Galaxy: Melkor
Crowned Witch: Melkor
Gingerbread: Alwaysmind
Alwaysmind: Melkor
Orca: Michelle
Ripped Cal: Melkor

@Lord Melkor @The Orca
really need to hear your thoughts on the people currently lynching you
Oh, been in work and did not read the last few pages. I hope my lynch will somehow help town. I do not like in particular votes from Shanks, Crowned, Cal and AM on me. I do not think they provided proper justification for lynching me.
 
If I were to give an updated read-list :

Jan - A claimed cop who nearly got Polar lynched D1, that's rather surefire town to me.

Tayenne - I looked too deeply into certain things with him early on in the game, but he's been looking good so far and was one of the main people behind the near Polar lynch in D1.

Worst - I haven't loved everything about of his play if I'm being honest, but the fact that he's been tied to what should be scum bus-drive with Polar Bear should clear him of being on the same faction. I guess there is the possibility that Zemmi was the bus-driver and chose those targets and Worst lied about the Tracker result, but would Sallucion who had zero posts and probably hadn't had a chance to catch up to the thread have made that play? I don't find it likely, if Worst is hostile then it's probably as an independent which isn't our biggest priority right now.

Michelle- Mainly I don't envision a world where her and Orca are on the same team since this isn't the most ideal scenario to begin bussing and her frustration with his accusations feels genuine. I feel better about Michelle than I do about Orca here. That they evidently got jailed and it didn't stop the kills isn't a bad look either, even if not clearing.

Crowned Witch - I believe they've been having strong takes more often than not throughout the thread, they have been on the same page with a lot of my own thoughts this page. I'm not as sold on voting Melkor over his failed shot when we have both an alleged roleblock and jailer both confessing to targeting him the first night, but I don't think that reasoning is necessarily bad either.

gingerbread - Mostly just because he looks like he appears to be putting more authentic effort into the solve than most of the players here. Action wise he hasn't done anything to solidify himself as town, but for the moment he' looking better than some of the other options.

Lord Melkor - I want to give him town credit because of how lax the game-thread was D1 when he was on the chopping block versus how quickly certain individuals began moving once the momentum turned against Polar. The failed results aren't a great look, he'll probably kick the bucket sooner rather than later with Worst representing half the night lynch, so I feel he shouldn't be the focus.


AL Sama - A bit of a mixed bag for me right now, they've done some things that I disliked and some things that I liked. Had the right call on Polar Bear, but getting swept up by a flood feels very dog ate my homework of an excuse since he could have changed course to Polar in the same post that he said that was the direction that town should go. I don't want to come off as an ass if he actually did have to swim through a flood at end of day though. I agree with his reasoning on the Orca lynch, but I don't love that his pool beyond that has Jan, Tayenne, and the indie in there. If Orca turns out to be town then AL might drop to the red for me, if Orca is scum then I feel strong town reading him.

bittersweet - Hasn't been a very strong game so far in terms of who he has pushed for. He spent most of D1 digging into Flower and shading her for claiming duel immune, and then spent D2 contesting the Polar lynch and trying to get something going against Orca instead. His read list is also a bit funny with him viewing both Worst and Melkor as scum when it seems evident to me that they would not be on a team together. I don't think he's a priority for the time being though since his role almost sounds too creative to be made up and he boxes himself into a corner with it for now.

Mr. Reloaded - Pretty much the only thing I've gotten from his game is that he claims to have role-blocked Melkor, and that he voted out Dio but doesn't want us to look into the people voting out Dio because he deserved it. Kind of a hollow game so far, not much to work with, but nothing that makes him look good. From what I can see they failed to place a vote yesterday, though that might make him look better honestly because scum would probably want to vote Polar Bear for town-cred if they were planning to cancel the lynch regardless.

Alwaysmind - Completely useless, has only talked about FIFA. Only contribution was voting Polar right before the end of D2 where his lynch got canceled, and then voting Melkor with no reasons provided.

SakazOuki - He is asking a lot of questions, some of them have already been answered in the thread, but I don't have a clear idea of his own direction and why he is choosing Melkor. The only other thing I've really gotten from him is being part of the Dio wagon, nothing to sell me on him as a poster.

RippedCal - Feels like a lazy game so far and I don't think they've had a single push that I've agreed with so far. Nothing about their play has given me good vibes.

GalaxyLevelShanks - Has just been openly parroting players with the excuse that he's a rookie so they are just trusting the masses to give good direction to him, but then also managed to not be part of the Polar wagon.

The Orca - I didn't like his behavior and aversion to the Polar lynch near the end of D1, subtly pivoting to Dio. Nor did I like his shading of Flower or Jan or giving positive town reads to YTW for troll-posting.

Yo Tan Wa - I kind of regret that I didn't handle this with my duel. They claimed they are independent and that does track with their troll-posting this game. They aren't pretending to be pro-town, but they are playing too on the nose for scum. Perhaps the night-lynch can rip this band-aid off for us, so that we don't have to waste a day phase.
Nice thoughts, i like them. I think Bitter is propably town, the way he approached his role looked townie.

YTW being a "mercenary" Indie fits the census we have from Michelle, right?
 
I'm not suspicious because you I think that was a legitimate effort to lynch Flower; I'm suspicious because you appeared to use that joke vote as a smokescreen to shift your vote from Melkor to Dio out of nowhere after Jan explicitly called for moving votes away from Dio to get that Polar lynch going.
By the way i can answer the question in you are new player. While i do not recall you playing a lot of mafia in this community, did we not play mafia long time ago on Millenium Forums, which do not longer exist?
 
Now, I did not mention Charlie in my reads list because I thought he deserved his own post, because I believe there is something incredibly damning that I came across looking back at his post.

Near the end of the Day Phase, Charlie basically throws a life-raft out to Polar Bear.

He has a very mysterious ability where he can save somebody from a lynch, but it only works if that lynch happens to be a specific innocent member of town and he can not confirm the role, if that lynch is stopped then it is proof that they are innocent.

He then begins hard angling for Polar to claim his character, saying that if he's his target then he can both save him and clear him for town.






Jan makes a post calling the role suspicious as it can easily be used as a lifeline for two scum to save each other. After which Polar and Charlie instantly dissolve this angle and back off of it.




Then the phase ends and the lynch is canceled.



Now imagine this as a version of events.

-Charlie is mafia and has an ability that can end a day phase without a lynch, naturally he wants to use this in case one of his scum-mates is in trouble, but he needs the convincing cover story that will make them both look good.
-Charlie sees Polar Bear is the near certain lynch and sends in his ability to have Fujishiro activate.
-Charlie begins working the angle in the thread where he can position it as Polar Bear is the town child he saved
-Jan notices and casts a ton of suspicion on the claimed ability, making him realize he will only make both of them look scummy, so he backs off the case.
-His activated lynch cancel still goes through and we are left without a lynch taking place

Then coincidentally the next phase after the cancelled lynch, Charlie is here to inform us that he is now a vanilla because his target died, so we don't have to worry about his role again, it's not a problem anymore.



Everything about this looks horrific.

1. It requires Fuji to have added a high-risk move like a lynch cancel into the game, but then eliminates the entire risk factor involved in the role as it can only be used on a town player and then exonerates them. The entire balance towards giving a role like this to town is that they might accidentally use it to save a scum, but that's not even an option here. Making such a role hyper-specific to only one other individual player doesn't line up with any hosting practice I've witnessed before either.

2. It means that there are two lynch cancels in the game which would be an insanely bold move of Fuji when it's a very controversial role to even include one of them, and that Charlie then just happened to revert back to vanilla immediately after the scum lynch cancel used their ability.


I still don't like Orca, but I'm not of the mind that Charlie is probably almost certainly a scum here with the story he's strung and that he's the safest option to lynch.
This is a very interesting theory. I had Charlie as town lean tonally, but mech wise his role sounds weird. He can potentially confirm multiple people as town, right? And most roles seem to have multiple abilities.
 
You do realize I need to know lynchee's flavour to be able to use my ability right? Like i haven't said that 100 times already.


Ha xd

Lmfo even

If orca flips scum, this one is next. Haven't heard more bs on a while. Put that on top of dueling vig
You so sure about GP being scum? What do you think about his reads Independent of you?
 

Worst

Custom title
Since we're getting close any inputs for this?

Scenario A

We lynch Orca ---> He is scum ---> We Lynch LM at the council or you guys want someone else ?

We lynch Orca ---> He is scum ---> We Lynch LM at the council or you guys want someone else ?
 

Worst

Custom title
Since we're getting close any inputs for this?

Scenario A

We lynch Orca ---> He is scum ---> We Lynch LM at the council or you guys want someone else ?

We lynch Orca ---> He is scum ---> We Lynch LM at the council or you guys want someone else ?
i mean town for the 2nd option pressed enter by mistake


Scenario B

We lynch LM ---> He is scum ---> We Lynch Orca at the council or you guys want someone else ?

We lynch LM ---> He is town ---> We Lynch Orca at the council or you guys want someone else ?
 
Since we're getting close any inputs for this?

Scenario A

We lynch Orca ---> He is scum ---> We Lynch LM at the council or you guys want someone else ?

We lynch Orca ---> He is scum ---> We Lynch LM at the council or you guys want someone else ?
i mean town for the 2nd option pressed enter by mistake


Scenario B

We lynch LM ---> He is scum ---> We Lynch Orca at the council or you guys want someone else ?

We lynch LM ---> He is town ---> We Lynch Orca at the council or you guys want someone else ?
I doubt both sides of the wagon are scum. If we get a scum flip from Melkor or Orca EoD, then I'd say step away from the other one at the council until we have another day phase for town to re-evaluate with the new information. Only if we have a town flip EoD would I be weighing lynching the opposing wagon in the council.

If you guys have any doubts for the council then you can also play it safe with Yo Tan Wa, who is a thorn that should be removed at some point, but isn't worth wasting a productive day phase on.
 
The Orca - 4
Lord Melkor - 6
Alwaysmind - 2
Yo Tan Wa - 1
Michelle - 1
Charlie - 1

Tayenne: Alwaysmindd
Worst: Lord Melkor
AL sama: The Orca
Lord Melkor: The Orca
Mr. Reloaded: The Orca
Great Potato: The Orca > Charlie
Michelle: The Orca
Charlie: Yo Tan Wa
Saka: Melkor
Galaxy: Melkor
Crowned Witch: Melkor
Gingerbread: Alwaysmind
Alwaysmind: Melkor
Orca: Michelle
Ripped Cal: Melkor

@Lord Melkor @The Orca
really need to hear your thoughts on the people currently lynching you
Mix. Melkor and Michelle scum still. Al Sama can't remember if they have claimed anything, but I don't like the thought process. Potato I have as town, but also confusing why they are latched onto me. Low level thought imo. Reloaded I go back and forth on.

I don't think any has an actual good reason to be voting me, so that's troubling. Michelle making up stuff as I pointed out

Vote Lynch Melkor
 
Since we're getting close any inputs for this?

Scenario A

We lynch Orca ---> He is scum ---> We Lynch LM at the council or you guys want someone else ?

We lynch Orca ---> He is scum ---> We Lynch LM at the council or you guys want someone else ?
Council is only every even night.
Break time.

Oh an orcs read as behaviour town to me.
In his recent scum games he was the most UTR slot while still posting.
This game he does not care about hiding at all.
 
Melkor is either a planned bus or town.

Not certain. If not for worst bein convinced and likely bus driver target N1 i would sway.

I think CW is somewhat likely scum.
But if people need to resolve melkor that is fine too.
 

AL sama

Pendu the GOAT
W8 a second if i didn't got action failed on the poison prevent one does that mean i wasn't roleblocked and my track action straight up failed on LM ? OR i submitted the poison prevent before they roleblocked me so that passed and the track one didn't ? Cuz i submitted the track action later
you wouldn't get notified even if your protect action failed
 
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