Super Role Madness Game Of Thrones: A Song Of Ice and Fire
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Flower - Revived and we know their role-sheet. Only question remaining is the question is if they came back corrupted. I'm almost certain it would not be a mafia reviver even if that were true.
Worst - Was caught driven with Polar on N1 by a scum bus-driver and was the strongest advocate and push for killing Melkor all the way back on D1 when nobody else was looking at him.
CrownedWitch - People reading too deep into the mechanics of how she survived. It seemed pretty clear to me looking back in the previous phase that a lot of mafia were probably on that effort to lynch CW in order to save Melkor and that eliminates her from being scum team in my books.
GalaxyShanks - They've been going hard against Melkor the entire game and were responsible for his lynch when things were on the fence. I don't think he's bussing because a scum double-vote would have to play things safer against his own, and I doubt they had two of them.
Alwaysmind - Only really made troll posts so far with nothing to read, but I don't know what sort of scum game would entail just popping in to lynch out your own dude in a close race.
Michelle - I certainly like her posts a whole lot more than I like Orca.
bittersweet - Their claimed role kind of gives them an excuse to coast and be useless this game, but they have been consistent in that department. Difficult to get a strong read on them because their ability and play just tied them to Jan, but they have plausible deniability if their claim is true.
SakazOuki - They haven't been making good decisions this game. Voted on the Dio wagon D1 and jumped ship off Melkor onto CW D3. However, I'm more inclined to believe that the scum team would not have both a bus-driver and a redirect working in tangent, and there was a point where he was trying to pressure others to get onto the Melkor wagon even if he then ended up doing a rallying call later to get people to jump off of it onto CW. I also think his read lists have been mostly terrible. A messy game, but slightly better than some of the worse options.
gingerbread - Kind of neutral on ginger right now. They did run a pretty decent amount of defense for Melkor throughout the game which is a bad look, but they also went very hardball against Polar very early in D2 which was like the sparking vote for that wagon which is a good look. If they had the foresight to hardcore bus Polar would they attach themselves so readily to Melkor? Maybe, but it gives me some doubts and makes me question that his opinions on Melkor may have been legitimate. I don't like how he's avoided getting involved in some of the more crucial phases by placing his vote on nothing wagons though. I believe that we are still missing a claim from them though, which is putting them in a worse light right now.
Orca - He's the most scum player in the game based on posting history and behavior. He is the one that drove the Dio counter-wagon against in the first phase that combatted Melkor and later Polar. His subtle shift from Melkor to Dio looks far worse in hindsight with the knowledge that Melkor was scum. He spent D2 mostly making tinfoil conspiracies trying to shade our cop, and then in D3 he scrambled to save Melkor with a counter-wagon by jumping on CW despite that he supposedly had Melkor read as one of his top scum. The only thing that potentially clearing is mafia having a scum vs scum wagon that they did not put great resistance too, but I think we are dealing with a scum team that has limited thread sway this game.
Charlie - I don't for a single second believe their nonsense ability that they've spent about their entire game blabbing about and trying to sell us on is actually legit, and all of their behavior has been super scummy. Spent the entirety of the game avoiding lynches on scum. Refrained from a vote D1, dodged the Polar wagon D2, and then did a lot of talking about Melkor being suspicious D3 only to vote for everyone except for him.
Mr. Reloaded - A terribly scummy game so far. Voted for Dio on D1 over the Melkor lynch, covered Melkor with an alibi on D2, refused to vote in the Polar lynch, and scrambled to the CW lynch at the end of last phase in an attempt to save Melkor. That is his entire game spent bailing out Melkor and avoiding scum. We still don't have an explanation for Flower's failed watch on N1 and this guy just happens to be a claimed role block.
Yo Tan Wa - Outed themselves as indie, but I'm thinking probably not a malicious one.
RippedCal - They are probably my top suspect for Night King at this stage.
Worst - Was caught driven with Polar on N1 by a scum bus-driver and was the strongest advocate and push for killing Melkor all the way back on D1 when nobody else was looking at him.
CrownedWitch - People reading too deep into the mechanics of how she survived. It seemed pretty clear to me looking back in the previous phase that a lot of mafia were probably on that effort to lynch CW in order to save Melkor and that eliminates her from being scum team in my books.
GalaxyShanks - They've been going hard against Melkor the entire game and were responsible for his lynch when things were on the fence. I don't think he's bussing because a scum double-vote would have to play things safer against his own, and I doubt they had two of them.
Alwaysmind - Only really made troll posts so far with nothing to read, but I don't know what sort of scum game would entail just popping in to lynch out your own dude in a close race.
Michelle - I certainly like her posts a whole lot more than I like Orca.
bittersweet - Their claimed role kind of gives them an excuse to coast and be useless this game, but they have been consistent in that department. Difficult to get a strong read on them because their ability and play just tied them to Jan, but they have plausible deniability if their claim is true.
SakazOuki - They haven't been making good decisions this game. Voted on the Dio wagon D1 and jumped ship off Melkor onto CW D3. However, I'm more inclined to believe that the scum team would not have both a bus-driver and a redirect working in tangent, and there was a point where he was trying to pressure others to get onto the Melkor wagon even if he then ended up doing a rallying call later to get people to jump off of it onto CW. I also think his read lists have been mostly terrible. A messy game, but slightly better than some of the worse options.
gingerbread - Kind of neutral on ginger right now. They did run a pretty decent amount of defense for Melkor throughout the game which is a bad look, but they also went very hardball against Polar very early in D2 which was like the sparking vote for that wagon which is a good look. If they had the foresight to hardcore bus Polar would they attach themselves so readily to Melkor? Maybe, but it gives me some doubts and makes me question that his opinions on Melkor may have been legitimate. I don't like how he's avoided getting involved in some of the more crucial phases by placing his vote on nothing wagons though. I believe that we are still missing a claim from them though, which is putting them in a worse light right now.
Orca - He's the most scum player in the game based on posting history and behavior. He is the one that drove the Dio counter-wagon against in the first phase that combatted Melkor and later Polar. His subtle shift from Melkor to Dio looks far worse in hindsight with the knowledge that Melkor was scum. He spent D2 mostly making tinfoil conspiracies trying to shade our cop, and then in D3 he scrambled to save Melkor with a counter-wagon by jumping on CW despite that he supposedly had Melkor read as one of his top scum. The only thing that potentially clearing is mafia having a scum vs scum wagon that they did not put great resistance too, but I think we are dealing with a scum team that has limited thread sway this game.
Charlie - I don't for a single second believe their nonsense ability that they've spent about their entire game blabbing about and trying to sell us on is actually legit, and all of their behavior has been super scummy. Spent the entirety of the game avoiding lynches on scum. Refrained from a vote D1, dodged the Polar wagon D2, and then did a lot of talking about Melkor being suspicious D3 only to vote for everyone except for him.
Mr. Reloaded - A terribly scummy game so far. Voted for Dio on D1 over the Melkor lynch, covered Melkor with an alibi on D2, refused to vote in the Polar lynch, and scrambled to the CW lynch at the end of last phase in an attempt to save Melkor. That is his entire game spent bailing out Melkor and avoiding scum. We still don't have an explanation for Flower's failed watch on N1 and this guy just happens to be a claimed role block.
Yo Tan Wa - Outed themselves as indie, but I'm thinking probably not a malicious one.
RippedCal - They are probably my top suspect for Night King at this stage.
In any case, you are talking of diversifying, but all you've offered is tunnel vision on Michelle.
Last phase you claimed that Melkor was your top suspect alongside Michelle, yet you seemed awful eager to abandon his lynch for somebody who wasn't even on your suspect list beforehand.
Give me your revised suspect list in light of the latest flips, and this time try not to fill it with town players.
Last phase you claimed that Melkor was your top suspect alongside Michelle, yet you seemed awful eager to abandon his lynch for somebody who wasn't even on your suspect list beforehand.
Give me your revised suspect list in light of the latest flips, and this time try not to fill it with town players.
Absolutely. I spent the like last 5 days being a top lynch target counter to LM, with LM and Michelle being 2 of my main reads and the ones pushing me. You all can't even take the time to get a full claim from Michelle or even consider my point. When I did change my vote because Saka tagged me to, you act like I did it as some big mastermind. You can't have it both ways
If I try viewing you from an Orca is town perspective, there is still an issue that scum seemed to have a lot of kills the night you claimed to have jailed Michelle. I'll rephrase, if Michelle is scum then she is not acting alone, so who do you have on a team with her?
The last list of suspects you provided are mostly dead confirmed town or the people who took out Melkor, so I think your list is due for an update.
The last list of suspects you provided are mostly dead confirmed town or the people who took out Melkor, so I think your list is due for an update.
Now here's why I think that Melkor pushing for counter-claim on Orca isn't clearing and could have been a bus.
Lord Melkor starts the phase early by shading Orca and Relo primarily, and he's willing to place an early vote against him. One, at this point I think it's pretty surefire that at least one of this trio is scum, frankly I have two of them as scum. So Lord Melkor is okay with playing a bussing game, but he did not actually lead this wagon against Orca.
Except then the Orca lynch actually begins picking up and gaining momentum, at which point Charlie attempts to create momentum for a secondary wagon on Yo Tan Wa and Lord Melkor jumps on board with that.
Lord Melkor never moved his vote back to Orca after switching it to Yo Tan Wa here, anybody present in the thread can go ISO his post history and verify this for themselves. He went off Orca and did not place himself back again.
So now we have to ask ourselves why a scum who started finding success with this wagon suddenly decided to abandon it once it actually started picking up traction? It would have been a major win for Lord Melkor to simply stay steady on the Orca train, he was fine to distance and cast doubt on him the phase, but not keep his vote there. This is supposed to be what exonerates Orca?
These were the players who kept votes on Orca.
Myself (Town), Al Sama (Confirmed town), Michelle (???)
I'm inclined to believe that Michelle is probably town too and this was just an organic push against Orca.
Now take a look at what the suspect players doing during the LM - Orca vote.
Charlie - Tried to build a secondary wagon and only temporarily placing his vote on Orca after I put heat on him which he then quickly withdrew for CW.
gingerbread - Abstained from voting entirely.
Orca - Tried building a counter-wagon against Michelle and didn't switch to Melkor until it was clear the votes were splitting between the two of them, then abandoned that for someone he didn't even view as a suspect.
SakazOuki - Had vote on Melkor until the opportunity showed up for a CW lynch in which they quickly rallied the forces to move there.
Reloaded - Frivolously bounced between both wagons until the CW lynch started gaining momentum and bounced there.
And when I look at that this doesn't sound like a story of Orca, victim of scum counter-wagon, and more like a bunch of mafia running around with their heads cut off because they can't find another angle and then diving on the mouse-trap the moment they thought they saw one.
In the thick of this, you have mostly been running straight defense, with no solves. And the argument I am expected to believe is that if you were scum you would have played a much smarter and less obvious game, but also that you are not a mastermind and you had no choice to abandon the lynch on your top-scum read in favor of someone you never suspected because you got tagged to do so in the thread.
Vote Lynch Orca
Lord Melkor starts the phase early by shading Orca and Relo primarily, and he's willing to place an early vote against him. One, at this point I think it's pretty surefire that at least one of this trio is scum, frankly I have two of them as scum. So Lord Melkor is okay with playing a bussing game, but he did not actually lead this wagon against Orca.
Except then the Orca lynch actually begins picking up and gaining momentum, at which point Charlie attempts to create momentum for a secondary wagon on Yo Tan Wa and Lord Melkor jumps on board with that.
Lord Melkor never moved his vote back to Orca after switching it to Yo Tan Wa here, anybody present in the thread can go ISO his post history and verify this for themselves. He went off Orca and did not place himself back again.
So now we have to ask ourselves why a scum who started finding success with this wagon suddenly decided to abandon it once it actually started picking up traction? It would have been a major win for Lord Melkor to simply stay steady on the Orca train, he was fine to distance and cast doubt on him the phase, but not keep his vote there. This is supposed to be what exonerates Orca?
These were the players who kept votes on Orca.
Myself (Town), Al Sama (Confirmed town), Michelle (???)
I'm inclined to believe that Michelle is probably town too and this was just an organic push against Orca.
Now take a look at what the suspect players doing during the LM - Orca vote.
Charlie - Tried to build a secondary wagon and only temporarily placing his vote on Orca after I put heat on him which he then quickly withdrew for CW.
gingerbread - Abstained from voting entirely.
Orca - Tried building a counter-wagon against Michelle and didn't switch to Melkor until it was clear the votes were splitting between the two of them, then abandoned that for someone he didn't even view as a suspect.
SakazOuki - Had vote on Melkor until the opportunity showed up for a CW lynch in which they quickly rallied the forces to move there.
Reloaded - Frivolously bounced between both wagons until the CW lynch started gaining momentum and bounced there.
And when I look at that this doesn't sound like a story of Orca, victim of scum counter-wagon, and more like a bunch of mafia running around with their heads cut off because they can't find another angle and then diving on the mouse-trap the moment they thought they saw one.
In the thick of this, you have mostly been running straight defense, with no solves. And the argument I am expected to believe is that if you were scum you would have played a much smarter and less obvious game, but also that you are not a mastermind and you had no choice to abandon the lynch on your top-scum read in favor of someone you never suspected because you got tagged to do so in the thread.
Vote Lynch Orca
agree with this my main reasons for thinking this as well is bc LM outlived his usefullness he stopped the lynch and likely was out of amp shots so lynching him over another scum role with potentially more available actions was a good strategy ( if they really had to sacrifice one ) not to mention his banter with Michelle, she put 10x more effort into pushing him despite not being very active herself, and his defense looked kinda half assed
Vote Lynch Orca
Vote Lynch Orca
I claimed twice but Orca never saw that.
No one from my town reads asked for my flavour claim and that angle of pushing me for the lack of flavour claim doesn't look good.
No other opinion on anyone else is noted.
Charlie let's say Potato is wrong about you, for me his analysis looks like a townie train of thoughts so you calling it 'farming' is nagl .
No one from my town reads asked for my flavour claim and that angle of pushing me for the lack of flavour claim doesn't look good.
No other opinion on anyone else is noted.
Charlie let's say Potato is wrong about you, for me his analysis looks like a townie train of thoughts so you calling it 'farming' is nagl .
