Character Discussion Admiral Reversi - Fleet Admiral Shamrock - Imu Gives Akainu/Aramaki/Kizaru God's Knight Seals by Threatening their Home Lands - Fuji Flees

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So, I've been wondering how characters like Akainu and Kizaru are going to justify their actual boss being a human trafficking Demon Lord.

And, I think, they will try to rebel... until Oda finally reveals the real reason Marines DO NOT REBEL in general.

"But, if I defy the Celestial Dragons... they will execute my entire platoon, too."

Is this really where it ends?

I don't think so.

Why do proud men like Akainu and Garp bend the knee to the WG?

Because the WG will destroy their Homelands if they don't.

Look at what Imu did to Esperia over Shuri having the Bi-Polar Eyes.

This is how Imu controls the Marines: if the higher ranking Marines rebel, their entire homeland will be erased, like Ohara.

I could see Imu directly threatening Hibari, who is more or less confirmed to be Akainu's daughter. We've never seen Kizaru's homeland, nor Akainu's and this is where we will learn about them:

When Imu gives them the choice:

Become my God's Knights and serve me fully, or I will destroy your home lands.

HOWEVER, I believe there is one Admiral who is SECRETLY A KUROZUMI, and Orochi's long-lost brother, who blinded himself after the Kurozumi human hunts: Fujitora, the Purple Tiger, actually has purple hair he dies black. In reality, his homeland is Wano, and, since I have Imu attacking their, anyway, and Wano is ALREADY a mortal enemy of the WG/CDs, there is NOOOOO reason for Fuji to bend the knee here.

Akainu, Aramaki, and Kizaru will become God's Knights, and finally surpass the Yonkou, while Fujitora rejects the power entirely.

This will be the final evolution of Kizaru into a corporate slave: the man who sold Kuma out to the WG, will become a mindless weapon of war, just like the Pacifista.

Kizaru will lose his freedom the same way Kuma did, for failing to stand up against the WG's evil, and instead spreading it worldwide. A fitting fate.

Likewise, Akainu, who's foolishness regarding Whitebeard has led to the New World becoming full of worse pirates than ever, and Aramaki, a known racist who supports the Celestial Dragons, will also have their freedom stripped away, for choosing fascism over actual justice.

I think it's on some levels the most fitting and miserable fate for the Admirals that refused to stand up against the evil of the CDs while falsely carrying justice on their backs.

I think this is what will fully cause the Marine Civil War.

Fuji takes those who can no longer tolerate the CDs likes and evil, and the rest succumb to Imu's powers.

Since Oda said Shamrock was going to be given a big part in One Piece, I think him taking over the Marines would be sufficient to give him the screen time and presence Oda wants him to have.

 

[Cruxroux]

Akainu, Aramaki, and Kizaru will become God's Knights, and finally surpass the Yonkou

I'm sorry.

 

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I'm sorry.

I knew what I was posting when I posted this shit, LOL

The issue is that people act like Kizaru and Luffy is as Admiral vs a Yonkou, when it's an Admiral holding back vs a dude who really isn't a Yonkou yet.

We have still yet to see a serious Admiral vs a serious Yonkou (Whitebeard doesn't count because cancer nerf).

I think the first instance might be Teach vs Akainu.

It's not that the Admirals are weak, it's that the real Yonkou class (Linlin, Kaido, then Shanks, probably in that order) is that strong. Teach is near there, too, but we haven't seen proof he's there yet.

 

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I knew what I was posting when I posted this shit, LOL

The issue is that people act like Kizaru and Luffy is as Admiral vs a Yonkou, when it's an Admiral holding back vs a dude who really isn't a Yonkou yet.

We have still yet to see a serious Admiral vs a serious Yonkou (Whitebeard doesn't count because cancer nerf).

I think the first instance might be Teach vs Akainu.

It's not that the Admirals are weak, it's that the real Yonkou class (Linlin, Kaido, then Shanks, probably in that order) is that strong. Teach is near there, too, but we haven't seen proof he's there yet.

admirals are weak. until they show acoc they are fodder to any yonkou including Luffy. If white star gun made him unconscious for a little bit that says a lot . Luffy was goofing around

 

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admirals are weak. until they show acoc they are fodder to any yonkou including Luffy. If white star gun made him unconscious for a little bit that says a lot . Luffy was goofing around

This is my issue with the Admirals: being a part of the WG, when they KNOW the Celestial Dragons piss in the face of justice, is what is holding them back from achieving Supreme King Haki.

It's their refusal to rebel against the system itself. Sengoku has shown through Rosinante that he's not FULLY on the WG's side, but, we don't see him manifest CoC, because, unlike Garp, he's a Celestial Lapdog.

So, I think we'll see Fujitora, Kuzan, and Sengoku showcase CoC naturally, as they continue to rebel (Sengoku letting Law go was a BIT moment for Sengoku, in a lot of ways, you can view it as Sengoku realizing Ace's death was a mistake, and he was in the wrong for it).

But, in order for Akainu/Kizaru/Aramaki to get CoC, they'd either have to rebel... or get it from their real boss.

Akainu and Kizaru have both shown a commitment to listen to the Gorosei even when they REALLY don't want to, and Aramaki, unless he really is a plant/spy, has clearly demonstrated his dedication to the Celestial Dragons.

If they are going to be fighting top tiers in the New World, they need Supreme King Haki.

And, if they're not going to rebel, there's only one real source to get it from: Imu.

Akainu, Kizaru, and Aramaki will gain CoC by succumbing to Imu to save their homelands and families from destruction and torture.

Fujitora, Kuzan, and Koby will rebel against this structure (Kuzan obviously already has and Fuji has at least an ass cheek out the door already), and develop CoC naturally as true Conqueror's.

I do think it's possible Akainu, Kizaru, and Aramaki will gain Supreme King naturally, after breaking Imu's Dominion, though.

The Admirals were already nightmares to deal with before, regen + Imu's Omen boost is going to make them just fucking monsters.

 

[donidk]

This is my issue with the Admirals: being a part of the WG, when they KNOW the Celestial Dragons piss in the face of justice, is what is holding them back from achieving Supreme King Haki.

It's their refusal to rebel against the system itself. Sengoku has shown through Rosinante that he's not FULLY on the WG's side, but, we don't see him manifest CoC, because, unlike Garp, he's a Celestial Lapdog.

So, I think we'll see Fujitora, Kuzan, and Sengoku showcase CoC naturally, as they continue to rebel (Sengoku letting Law go was a BIT moment for Sengoku, in a lot of ways, you can view it as Sengoku realizing Ace's death was a mistake, and he was in the wrong for it).

But, in order for Akainu/Kizaru/Aramaki to get CoC, they'd either have to rebel... or get it from their real boss.

Akainu and Kizaru have both shown a commitment to listen to the Gorosei even when they REALLY don't want to, and Aramaki, unless he really is a plant/spy, has clearly demonstrated his dedication to the Celestial Dragons.

If they are going to be fighting top tiers in the New World, they need Supreme King Haki.

And, if they're not going to rebel, there's only one real source to get it from: Imu.

Akainu, Kizaru, and Aramaki will gain CoC by succumbing to Imu to save their homelands and families from destruction and torture.

Fujitora, Kuzan, and Koby will rebel against this structure (Kuzan obviously already has and Fuji has at least an ass cheek out the door already), and develop CoC naturally as true Conqueror's.

I do think it's possible Akainu, Kizaru, and Aramaki will gain Supreme King naturally, after breaking Imu's Dominion, though.

The Admirals were already nightmares to deal with before, regen + Imu's Omen boost is going to make them just fucking monsters.

I believe Akainu will be the only one with confirmed kings haki on his own the others with omen boost would be beast but I don't think they would be over the gorosei for endgame.... so their opponents might be the strawhat fleet at best and they have kings haki users as well next time we see them they will be refined. Kidd Law Zoro Sanji Luffy Loki etc will fight the gorosei + shamrock