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I think that it’s kind of like that yeah, but just a temporary nerf. There was no indication that he got permanently weaker after losing Harald.
Yeah, I definitely think it's temporary, 800 years of permanent debuffs would be bloody crazy...

didn't big mom also receive power back when taking the soul back or the character was defeated? Tbh I can't even remember if she gained power from stealing others souls as well or not (WCI was a steaming pile of shit in my eyes so I could be talking out my ass here)
 
He is. Gaban near his prime admitted inferiority to Harald and by extension Loki.
People need to stop compare Harald to Rock when HK Harald has better portray than Xebec. Imu, Gorosei call him monster for reason while they see Xebec troublemaker thug. Harald live longer than Rock Xebec, fought stronger foes and mange to run over like Shanks and Gaban. Same Shanks fought Mihawk the legendary duel.

We can say Harald let Loki kill him but we know hybrid Loki dominated him so easily like nothing. In best we can is Base Loki > Harlad in high difficulty. It just regeneration is hard to defeat.
 
They are reactionary morons,
Oda is telling us Loki > Old Legend > over fed luffy > Kaido/Big mom/Oden.
Why Lee is tweaking over it. Loki will shine on stronger Imu form anyway.
Well old gaban performed much better that base loki with ragnir and lightning as well as dragon loki. The xebec FB established even DF less base loki to be above characters like harald who scale to xebec and roger.

This is definitely massively inconsistency from the power scaling set in flashback. Then fucking hajrudin of all people overpowered stronger form of imu. I don't think oda cares about power scaling anymore. Its time to stop taking powerscaling seriously anymore in OP.
 
People acting like this didn't happen in egghead, wasn't the gorosei who supposed to be stronger then HK at the very least jobbing to nami chopper and brook ? couldn't even get past dorry and broggy who are weaker then hajrudin




While mere HK like gunko was able to beat brook jinbe ussop and nami, oda doesn't care and its not new.
 

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Yeah, I definitely think it's temporary, 800 years of permanent debuffs would be bloody crazy...

didn't big mom also receive power back when taking the soul back or the character was defeated? Tbh I can't even remember if she gained power from stealing others souls as well or not (WCI was a steaming pile of shit in my eyes so I could be talking out my ass here)
I dont remember.
 
Saying that Loki > Old Legends is the same mistake as saying Ragnir => Harald.
Just interpretations of vague sentences that can be interpreted in many ways.
The way Harald was defeated is completely foggy and can also be interpreted in many ways, as Harald was completely open to getting hit and conscious of it, just like Loki vs. Ragnir was a bullshit fight, lmao.
Time proved that those Ragnir takes are absurd and stupid. Time will also prove that Loki god tier > Old Legends takes are also absurd and stupid.
 
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