Salem of Lies Throne Of Lies: The WG War




As i said his threadplay is to me indication that he's not affiliated with anyone, based on his interactions with ppl i can't see anyone being his teammate if i try to place him in a team with anyone, no one is trying really hard to push for a different wagon and his reasoning for no claiming is only putting him in a worse and worse position if he had a team he would go a different route i think, didn't said he can't be indie though i said not mafia, jester or indie at worst

Zemmi, post: 6841210, member: 2768"]Who do you think is mafia though?
i have 2 potential suspects which i have in my logbook[/QUOTE]

Why not say who those two are?
 
i have 2 potential suspects which i have in my logbook
Why not say who those two are?[/QUOTE]



Now hold your horses miss, I’ve given it some heavy thought, and I just don't reckon it's the right time to go layin' such vital information out on the wood for everyone to see. If I were to go blabbin' it all out right now, half these folks would just shake their heads in disbelief, and the rest would be far too skeptical to follow me down that trail anyway. It'd just be throwin' seed on hard ground and causin' a whole lot of unnecessary noise for nothin'.

So I figure the smartest move on the board is to just sit tight and let a few cards flip over first while we wait on more dust to settle. Once we get some real, hard facts out in the open and a clearer picture starts comin' into view, it won't take near as much strain to get everybody on the same page.

When that time comes and the lay of the land is plain as day, it's gonna be a whole lot easier for y'all to step into my boots and see my side of the fence. But until we get those extra pieces to the puzzle, I'm keepin' my cards close to my chest, and that's just all there is to it.
 


Yep his refusal to claim is imho the only thing worth of notice here, not just that but his reasoning, so people " can learn " how to read and not rely on claims, but it doesn't make sense, might as well just say " f**k you I'm know claiming for any reason " I would've accepted that better

Still conflicted though
so my posts aren't worthy of notice? is this admittance of being scum, worst?
 
@Worst

I am breaking the broken quote curse right here!!!

I don't think that makes any sense. Will people follow you? likely not, but it still helps the game if you tell it and there isn't a downside at all.

Yeah but with more information available i will also be able to make a more compelling case and avoiding having to look like a broken disk for 3 whole cycles
 
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town
ali
galaxy
yoho

weaker TRs, can be playing me given gamestate but i think most of them r town
bitter
zemmi
polar
reborn??
charlie
melkor

indie, doubt lying but can resolve later
AL

nulls/poe
naomi - personally think she's indie but can easily be town and am wrong
york - need to do more
worst - making plenty of bad non solving posts
saber - more invested in mechanical talk. struggling to talk about the game
orca - this one can be town. the tone is throwing me a bit off tho but dont have reason to sus besides that atm
ratchet - solid null, can be solved mechanically if he's not gonna play
udell - omgus his top scum read, terrible posts all around (NAI for him im afraid). wud like if he can play the game and talk about other slots to read him better
 
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town
ali
galaxy
yoho

weaker TRs, can be playing me given gamestate but i think most of them r town
bitter
zemmi
polar
reborn??
charlie
melkor

indie, doubt lying but can resolve later
AL

nulls/poe
naomi - personally think she's indie but can easily be town and am wrong
york - need to do more
worst - making plenty of bad non solving posts
saber - more invested in mechanical talk. struggling to talk about the game
orca - this one can be town. the tone is throwing me a bit off tho but dont have reason to sus besides that atm
ratchet - solid null, can be solved mechanically if he's not gonna play
udell - omgus his top scum read, terrible posts all around (NAI for him im afraid). wud like if he can play the game and talk about other slots to read him better
Why is Yoho a strong town read?
 

Fujishiro

Its going to be daijobu.

VC4 D1



Ekkolojinx - 10
Yoho - 1
Charlie - 1
Ali v2 - 1
Bittersweet -1
Saber - 1
Worst - 1

Hammer is at 10 votes

Worst: Charlie > Ekkolojinx
bittersweet: Yoho > Ekkolojinx
The Orca: Bittersweet > Ekkolojinx > Bittersweet
Udell: York > Ekkolojinx
Saber: Yoho > Ekkolojinx
Naomi: Ekkolojinx > Ratchet > Ratchet > unvote
Ali v2: Yoho > unvote > Ekkolojinx > unvote > Ekkolojinx
Lord Melkor: Yoho > Ekkolojinx
GalaxyLevelShanks: Yoho
York: Yoho > Ekkolojinx
Charlie: Ekkolojinx
Polar Bear: GalaxyLevelShanks > Ali v2
Ekkolojinx: Udell > Saber
Yoho: Ekkolojinx > unvote > Worst
Zemmi: Ekkolojinx​
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Hammer was reached. I will start the trial in a second.
 

Fujishiro

Its going to be daijobu.
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Yoho

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AL

nulls/poe
naomi - personally think she's indie but can easily be town and am wrong-
york - need to do more
worst - making plenty of bad non solving posts
saber - more invested in mechanical talk. struggling to talk about the game
orca - this one can be town. the tone is throwing me a bit off tho but dont have reason to sus besides that atm
ratchet - solid null, can be solved mechanically if he's not gonna play
udell - omgus his top scum read, terrible posts all around (NAI for him im afraid). wud like if he can play the game and talk about other slots to read him better
Naomi- She has a pretty good poker face its hard to find her based on thread play but as far as im concerned shes town Naomi I think would be more akin to pushing and solving as scum but this is solely based on the one time in 1000 games I've summed with her so not 100% accurate

Worst- I've addressed this already but town worst would of been either came up with some sort of suspect list or at least some scheme that ultimately leads to nothing by now

York- pretty much everytime she was scum she had very low thread presence so imo if york is a low poster more often than not shes scum

Saber- feels townie to me i don't a major issue with mechanical talk if thats what he? Uses to solve

Orca- haven't really gotten much from this slot in terms of really 100% saying scum or town but i'd lean more towards town personally

Ratchet- nothing to go off of as of now but i think once he starts being active if he does he's fairly easy to find so i'll wait and see

Udell- I don't have a base of reference for this slot when it comes to scumming so idk what to expect from scumdell but i don't see any difference between this game and the last one in which he was town so im slotting him town for now
 
did you really royal finger me king @Charlie ;o

the top 2 wagons r probably town, i was gonna tell u get the peasants of your kingdom to vote elsewhere

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you want my my alignment? you can have it! i left it all in that place!! the thread!

for my defense, i'll only write a cheat sheet for my play and one sentence that has my claim in it and will leave the rest to your capability as players. this will force you into an ultimatum. you will have no cc to bail you out, no discussion to be had. you make the decision right here right now, and the only clue you have to help you is the posts that i made in the game. you either:

1) look at what REALLY is alignment indicative content for me and make a correct read (there is plenty in the thread)
2) call me scum off of some NAI insignificant and irrelevant bullshit and pray you are right (you are not)

To give you a cheat sheet:
  • things that are NAI for me: my refusal to claim, my "color" post entrance, my initial activity, my willing to teach town a lesson at the cost of my death, all cheap non thread play related stuff.
  • things that are AI for me: my read list, reasonings for my town/scum reads, my prolonged interaction with udell or other players that help the game read them better, the flexibility to change my reads. all thread play related stuff.

now i've laid it all out for you. go get the answer and come vote.

as for claim:

I am the Prince you bonobos

but do you believe that claim? i would make the same claim as scum too. how can you tell if i am being truthful or not? read my posts. all alignment content you want is there.

the fact that about half of my wagon does not have me as mafia YET you are voting to kill me is one of the primary reasons why i refused to claim. you guys really need to learn to not lynch people you don't scum reads or force claims of strong town roles like retards

good luck etc, hopefully someone somewhere will learn something from this and we will do better job at reading ekko and playing in general next game
 
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