Questions & Mysteries Dolfamingo's Huge Bounty reveal bet

[Rumble]

why would he accept a dude that's basically an outsider and clearly dislikes the cds? the only time they ever accepted an outsider is with harald, who was special due to how overwhelmingly strong he is and the fact that he's the ruler of elbaf and was willing to let them use the might of elbaf for their goals

I answered this already.

If it's Imu, necessity.

That's assuming it's Imu picking Doflamingo. It doesn't have to be.

What do you want to know? The HK are pretty much all just the descendants of the 20 kings and loyalists to Imu who start out as Gods blades who do missions until they become HK. The only exceptions are Harald and Loki. The main thing a HK has to have is slavish loyalty, they give up their freedom. Doffy is pretty much the opposite of that. Not trolling when I say that besides Rocks, Doffy is the only pirate known to have targeted CD's

The vast majority of Celestial Dragons are useless slobs. Are you suggesting any of them can be a worthwhile use of a Covenant?

We know very little of Knights individually. Shanks, Shamrock and Gunko were born all outside Mary Geoise. That may be coincidence, or part of a larger pattern. We simply don't know shit.

For all we know, there are no House Donquixote CDs available to use their ancestor's weapon - assuming besides Imu only a Donquixote can use it/use it best.

Doflamingo is very likely returning to the story and it's very unlikely to me he'll be a pirate again when he does, especially because there is a House Donquixote weapon up for grabs.

 

[soupongo]

I answered this already.


That's assuming it's Imu picking Doflamingo. It doesn't have to be.



The vast majority of Celestial Dragons are useless slobs. Are you suggesting any of them can be a worthwhile use of a Covenant?

We know very little of Knights individually. Shanks, Shamrock and Gunko were born all outside Mary Geoise. That may be coincidence, or part of a larger pattern. We simply don't know shit.

For all we know, there are no House Donquixote CDs available to use their ancestor's weapon - assuming besides Imu only a Donquixote can use it/use it best.

Doflamingo is very likely returning to the story and it's very unlikely to me he'll be a pirate again when he does, especially because there is a House Donquixote weapon up for grabs.

I think the Hk are like any other countries military, it's a small amount of people who are much stronger than the average CD. There's probably 7ish HK at the moment, and probably a few guys on the sideline who are willing to replace any HK if Oda really needs to do so. You'd think with all the resources of the WG, if they really needed, they'd have a few Gods Blades on standby....

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

There are 12 HK

 

[MUUGEN]

So, Many think Doffy is Veteran Level, below Cracker, above Katakuri, Jack level, strong enough that his replacement was a Yonko, etc, etc....

So what will his bounty be in the future?

My bet, 3,040 billion. Below Mihawk, above Crocodile.

lol no where close bud

nor is he returning

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

lol no where close bud

nor is he returning

He’s just gonna talk occasionally and delusionally in scenes of Impel Down

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

I give him 2.34 billion berries at best

 

[Veku]

Key word, new characters. And yeah, we have 4ish remaining HK, the entire BBP pretty much, the serafiller(including Doffy 2.0, btw), the Gorosei, the remaining admirals......

But anyway we can agree to disagree, I just think at some point talking about Doflamingo returning to get a certain bounty like it's prophecized like the return of Christ or something gets a bit silly lmao. We have an idea on who Oda will want to focus on in the final saga, and Doffy isn't even going to be in the top 10 or probably even like 20. We're ultimately talking about a story with a limited runtime too...

What?
Elbaph Just brought Back, Dory, Brogy and Saul, Egghead brought Back Lucci, Kaku, Kuma, Stussy and Sentomaru, Onigashima Had Marco and Perospero getting a fairly amount of attention...

We ain't arguing about Doffy being among the top players, but just his return in one way or another and playing some kind of role down the line...Y'all disregarding even the possibility with everything taken into consideration is just silly tbh.

Someone needs to fight:
- CP0
- Remaining HK ( Iirc we saw 12 sillouhettes when Dragon was talking about them)
- 5 Elders
- Seraphim

And that's without counting the Navy.
Not saying Doffy will or has to fight any of them, but someone has to, so that alone implies the final war will require side characters to be brought back.

 

[Kiiro]

What?
Elbaph Just brought Back, Dory, Brogy and Saul, Egghead brought Back Lucci, Kaku, Kuma, Stussy and Sentomaru, Onigashima Had Marco and Perospero getting a fairly amount of attention...

We ain't arguing about Doffy being among the top players, but just his return in one way or another and playing some kind of role down the line...Y'all disregarding even the possibility with everything taken into consideration is just silly tbh.

Someone needs to fight:
- CP0
- Remaining HK ( Iirc we saw 12 sillouhettes when Dragon was talking about them)
- 5 Elders
- Seraphim

And that's without counting the Navy.
Not saying Doffy will or has to fight any of them, but someone has to, so that alone implies the final war will require side characters to be brought back.

Could be the seraphim. World Goverment and marines will still exist, they are needed imo.

So it could be actual WG vs Pirates which will make a new world. When Luffy becomes PK, evel wont disappear.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

What?
Elbaph Just brought Back, Dory, Brogy and Saul, Egghead brought Back Lucci, Kaku, Kuma, Stussy and Sentomaru, Onigashima Had Marco and Perospero getting a fairly amount of attention...

We ain't arguing about Doffy being among the top players, but just his return in one way or another and playing some kind of role down the line...Y'all disregarding even the possibility with everything taken into consideration is just silly tbh.

Someone needs to fight:
- CP0
- Remaining HK ( Iirc we saw 12 sillouhettes when Dragon was talking about them)
- 5 Elders
- Seraphim

And that's without counting the Navy.
Not saying Doffy will or has to fight any of them, but someone has to, so that alone implies the final war will require side characters to be brought back.

Doffy too hard to draw for Oda he’ll be offscreened.

 

[soupongo]

What?
Elbaph Just brought Back, Dory, Brogy and Saul, Egghead brought Back Lucci, Kaku, Kuma, Stussy and Sentomaru, Onigashima Had Marco and Perospero getting a fairly amount of attention...

How do you define "bring back"? Lucci and Kaku were part of unfinished plotlines from the pre TS cover story way back,Kuma was a mystery for like 15 years(and Oda has legit forgot he and Bonney exist this arc pretty much), stussy and Sentomaru were again...just around, they were never defeated or anything. Perospero was a Big Mom pirate, which is the second main antagonist group of Wano.......

That's obviously different from Doffy, who straight up got beaten by Luffy, his crew disbanded, and imprisoned.(also, I think it's notable that most of those characters you brought up legit got nothing, so should Oda really open a new plotline of Doffy escaping, to bring him back to....get DR'd for 2 chapters of action like Dorry and Broggy? He could just use anyone at that point)

Someone needs to fight:
- CP0
- Remaining HK ( Iirc we saw 12 sillouhettes when Dragon was talking about them)
- 5 Elders
- Seraphim

And that's without counting the Navy.
Not saying Doffy will or has to fight any of them, but someone has to, so that alone implies the final war will require side characters to be brought back.

Which is why the SHP have like 30 years of allies, including legit top tiers at this point like Loki. Do you really think Oda needs to bring back Doffy to fight CP0, Holy Frauds and Seraphim? That would just be disappointing.....

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

How do you define "bring back"? Lucci and Kaku were part of unfinished plotlines from the pre TS cover story way back,Kuma was a mystery for like 15 years(and Oda has legit forgot he and Bonney exist this arc pretty much), stussy and Sentomaru were again...just around, they were never defeated or anything. Perospero was a Big Mom pirate, which is the second main antagonist group of Wano.......

That's obviously different from Doffy, who straight up got beaten by Luffy, his crew disbanded, and imprisoned.(also, I think it's notable that most of those characters you brought up legit got nothing, so should Oda really open a new plotline of Doffy escaping, to bring him back to....get DR'd for 2 chapters of action like Dorry and Broggy? He could just use anyone at that point)


Which is why the SHP have like 30 years of allies, including legit top tiers at this point like Loki. Do you really think Oda needs to bring back Doffy to fight CP0, Holy Frauds and Seraphim? That would just be disappointing.....

Doffy can face Vice Admiral Red King in a extreme diff fight

6 powers plus his Steam Punch will give Doffy trouble forcing him to awaken and use God Thread on Red King, but Red King will avoid it with Soru and force Doffy to use 16 Holy Bullets which will finally end the fight after he’s bloodied and barely standing.

 

[John Akainu]

2.2b billion is fair

 

[Kiiro]

Doffy can face Vice Admiral Red King in a extreme diff fight

6 powers plus his Steam Punch will give Doffy trouble forcing him to awaken and use God Thread on Red King, but Red King will avoid it with Soru and force Doffy to use 16 Holy Bullets which will finally end the fight after he’s bloodied and barely standing.

Wtf

 

[Veku]

How do you define "bring back"? Lucci and Kaku were part of unfinished plotlines from the pre TS cover story way back,Kuma was a mystery for like 15 years(and Oda has legit forgot he and Bonney exist this arc pretty much), stussy and Sentomaru were again...just around, they were never defeated or anything. Perospero was a Big Mom pirate, which is the second main antagonist group of Wano.......

That's obviously different from Doffy, who straight up got beaten by Luffy, his crew disbanded, and imprisoned.(also, I think it's notable that most of those characters you brought up legit got nothing, so should Oda really open a new plotline of Doffy escaping, to bring him back to....get DR'd for 2 chapters of action like Dorry and Broggy? He could just use anyone at that point)

Baseline is, Oda brought back characters for no important or narratively strong reason, but Just because he wanted to have them participate in a certain Arc. Like Lucci legitimately was just Fan service, he hasn't changed as a character at all and just fought the Strawhats all over again.

Really no reason to overcomplicate things.

Which is why the SHP have like 30 years of allies, including legit top tiers at this point like Loki. Do you really think Oda needs to bring back Doffy to fight CP0, Holy Frauds and Seraphim? That would just be disappointing.....

Doffy taking on any notable opposing opponent would be disappointing, but one of the dozens of already explored and defeated - or characters we have seen in full fledged fights, would have you excited?

I'd rather watch characters like Katakuri, Enel Doffy and co etc fight, than the Fodderfleet members, Off Panel revo bro's Like Koala and Lindbergh, or Sword members I can't even remember their names of lol.

Besides, personal preferences is one thing, each to their own, main point is, it's anything but unrealistic for Doffy to return.

 

[Kiiro]

Baseline is, Oda brought back characters for no important or narratively strong reason, but Just because he wanted to have them participate in a certain Arc. Like Lucci legitimately was just Fan service, he hasn't changed as a character at all and just fought the Strawhats all over again.

Really no reason to overcomplicate things.


Doffy taking on any notable opposing opponent would be disappointing, but one of the dozens of already explored and defeated - or characters we have seen in full fledged fights, would have you excited?

I'd rather watch characters like Katakuri, Enel Doffy and co etc fight, than the Fodderfleet members, Off Panel revo bro's Like Koala and Lindbergh, or Sword members I can't even remember their names of lol.

Besides, personal preferences is one thing, each to their own, main point is, it's anything but unrealistic for Doffy to return.

Hope Enel returns

 

[MUUGEN]

Hope Enel returns

same

 

[sanjikun]

Because Sanjikun is trying to make a point about frozen bounties which is dumb since we know Doffy was an active pirate for decades prior to his bounty being frozen unlike Croc who canonically had his bounty frozen “early on”

Dude, Oda literally talked about this. He said Croc's active bounty would be at least 2x higher than his frozen, but still not on DD's level.

Even Doffy's frozen would mog Croc's active. There is no chance in fuck Croc was getting a 340 mill frozen bounty like Doffy.

Portrayal wise both Doffy and Kuma were higher than Croc. Kuma even showed this by neg diffing all the SHs.

 

[MUUGEN]

Dude, Oda literally talked about this. He said Croc's active bounty would be at least 2x higher than his frozen, but still not on DD's level.

Even Doffy's frozen would mog Croc's active. There is no chance in fuck Croc was getting a 340 mill frozen bounty like Doffy.

Portrayal wise both Doffy and Kuma were higher than Croc. Kuma even showed this by neg diffing all the SHs.

what exactly did joker do portrayal wise that would mog croc, dude was literally protecting Nico Robin, ran an underground organization that ran the 1st half of the grandline, took over a country of 1 of the original kings of the WG with the sole purpose of fidning the ancient weapon pluton through poneglyphs in order to gain enough military power in order to rival the WG..... he was basically a Revolutionary.

Now he got Lihawk the lone wolf to join him as an EQUAL partner and is now running one of the largest orgs with the purpose of hunting down WG/Marines under the banner of a Yonko.....

 

[Kiiro]

what exactly did joker do portrayal wise that would mog croc, dude was literally protecting Nico Robin, ran an underground organization that ran the 1st half of the grandline, took over a country of 1 of the original kings of the WG with the sole purpose of fidning the ancient weapon pluton through poneglyphs in order to gain enough military power in order to rival the WG..... he was basically a Revolutionary.

Now he got Lihawk the lone wolf to join him as an EQUAL partner and is now running one of the largest orgs with the purpose of hunting down WG/Marines under the banner of a Yonko.....

😓 So thats basically Croc best?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Dude, Oda literally talked about this. He said Croc's active bounty would be at least 2x higher than his frozen, but still not on DD's level.

Even Doffy's frozen would mog Croc's active. There is no chance in fuck Croc was getting a 340 mill frozen bounty like Doffy.

Portrayal wise both Doffy and Kuma were higher than Croc. Kuma even showed this by neg diffing all the SHs.

yet oda giving doffy a bounty below 1B isn't valid because "that was years ago"