Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1193 Spoilers Discussion

People who honestly believed Oda rigged the last popularity poll for Luffy make me laugh as this chapter is just the latest of proof that Zoro has always been his favorite.
Not at all. I'm pretty sure he's said as much if not just implied several times. As the creator obviously he likes Zoro, but we have emphatically learned that this isn't Zoro Piece.

The best we can even hope is that the inconvenience that stops Zoro from reaching Imu again isn't too shameful
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Casually ignoring the fact Awakening requires extreme mastery and put's a strain on the user's psyche and pretending it's no big deal at all that Killingham is seemingly running around 24/7 with Awakening for no reason at all lol
Chronologically speaking we’ve seen him for maybe a few hours at most? Not much time has passed since their arrival


If characters like Lucci, Kaku and If you wanna insist Yamato don't run around using it 24/7, even outside of combat, with Oda explicitly highlighting a Zoan user usually get's overwhelmed by the Zoan's personality, Ima need need Oda to clarify, why out of all people, this spoiled bum does, what nobody is capable of and for no reason at all on top of that.
Idk this doesn’t really impact that Oda has drawn him with the awakening Hagoromo and this is a visual medium. If he wasn’t awakened I’d expect more negative confirmation to disprove what we see visually
 
Chronologically speaking we’ve seen him for maybe a few hours at most? Not much time has passed since their arrival
A few hours is a massive amount of time, all things considered, but even more so when there is no logical reason for Killingham to use it outside of combat, remember, they have even been pulled into Elbaph via surprise iirc and the Hagoromo was seen from the very start If I'm not mistaken, so he's been running around with ity even prior to vistting Elbaph.

Idk this doesn’t really impact that Oda has drawn him with the awakening Hagoromo and this is a visual medium. If he wasn’t awakened I’d expect more negative confirmation to disprove what we see visually
The fact Oda hasn't even clarified on the Zoan's Awakening's design already provides enough reason to be sceptical, all the above makes it just unlikely for Killingham to be awakened outside of Omen.
 
Chronologically speaking we’ve seen him for maybe a few hours at most? Not much time has passed since their arrival



Idk this doesn’t really impact that Oda has drawn him with the awakening Hagoromo and this is a visual medium. If he wasn’t awakened I’d expect more negative confirmation to disprove what we see visually
Do you think Yamato was awakened when she was 8? Cause she has the Hagoromo at that agr
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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few hours is a massive amount of time, all things considered, but even more so when there is no logical reason for Killingham to use it outside of combat, remember, they have even been pulled into Elbaph via surprise iirc and the Hagoromo was seen from the very start If I'm not mistaken, so he's been running around with ity even prior to vistting Elbaph.
There’s no reason for him to use his fruit right off rip either but he did. That’s not the deal breaker you think it is
The fact Oda hasn't even clarified on the Zoan's Awakening's designy already provides enough reason to be sceptical, all the above makes it just unlikely for Killingham to be awakened.
ah no, I think that’s just your bias. There’s no reason to think he isn’t awakened when Oda draws him identically to awakening. I need confirmation that Oda’s visual language isn’t what it’s abundantly portraying
 
There’s no reason for him to use his fruit right off rip either but he did. That’s not the deal breaker you think it is
Fruit usage doesn't come with a limiting factor and pre requirements unlike Awakening.

ah no, I think that’s just your bias. There’s no reason to think he isn’t awakened when Oda draws him identically to awakening. I need confirmation that Oda’s visual language isn’t what it’s abundantly portraying
Tac, you're disregarding every logical reason to be at least sceptical, because of you blatant bias.
Only User with a white Hagomoro is the legendary White Warrior aka G5, Yamato's was confirmed not to be related to Awakening, the only two other confirmed awakened Zoan user have black Hagomoros and the mode is treated as power up that comes with limiting factors and pre-requirments, it's not treated as a Fashion Accessoire you can simple run around with all the time for no reason at all..

It's not Impossible, but we have more reason to believe that he is not awakened than vice versa.

Following your logic, 5 elders are confirmed to be awakened btw, which would be then 7 Users with a black Hagoromo vs one User with a white Hagoromo..
 

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Conqueror of the Stars
Gabans attacks were too fast for Imu to dodge that’s why he had to try and block but failed
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You mean when Imu was distracted by killing Luffy and having a flashback? When did Imu attempt to dodge Gabum?

Gabum only struck Imu when he was x2 distracted, no attempt to dodge was made lmfao. Meanwhile against Woki, form 2 Imu is dodging harder than Gabum’s captain for fear of getting killed in one strike by fruitless Woki
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Fruit usage doesn't come with a limiting factor unlike Awakening.
No but you’re saying he has no reason to be in awakening. He also doesn’t have any reason to use his fruit. So it’s a moot point, he’s already being unnecessary from the get-go. Oda is showing off his fruit and the very identical design that zoan awakenings have. That’s the purpose.


Tac, you're disregarding every logical reason to be at least sceptical, because of you blatant bias.
No, I think you’re just hung up on trying to put a very clear cut visual design through layers of skepticism because you dislike the Knights of God.

Luffy has stamina issues, Lucci & Kaku displayed none of those.

Kidd/Law had stamina issues as a recently awakened fruit users, Katakuri seemingly had none of those.

the idea Killingham can’t be awakened because he should have the same draw backs as Luffy, to me, is a leap.


Only User with a white Hagomoro is the legendary White Warrior
I mean… I don’t know the significance of the colors of the Hagoromo, Luffy could be the only character to ever have a white one we see. Considering we have very few examples of awakened zoans, I’m not going to make that verdict though.

it’s possible mythical zoans that are awakened have the white Hagoromo. Not saying it is but that’s one thing we can’t say until we get more verifiable zoans either way
 
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