Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1193 Spoilers Discussion

[Senfret]

source?

Do you remember the Holy knight [Satchels Maffey] firing laser beams in God valley? I suspect she used to use pika pika no mi, and since Kizaru has it now it's quite probable she's dead

 

[AER15]

Worstgen tweets in the summary thread? It's actually over.

 

[John Akainu]

The box contains a Void Century Rumble Ball that will transform Chopper in the Forest God

 

[Zoinks52]

Kizaru might get nerfed by the sword

Kizaru uses a fooking lightsaber called The Sword Of The Gathering Clouds of Heaven, ofc any other blade is a nerf

 

[John Akainu]

Close the Lingdom section

Finished manga

 

[John Akainu]

They excluded Raphinha from top 30 in the balon dor ranking lmao absolute joke of an award these days

Raphinha is a joke

 

[gz89]

@RayanOO can you win the league title this year or will you spend a fortune in January to beat the mighty Monaco

 

[RayanOO]

@RayanOO can you win the league title this year or will you spend a fortune in January to beat the mighty Monaco

Let’s change side real quick

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

I don't think the inclined-to-dodge argument works given that Imu chose to dodge the most sauceless punch from Goofy imaginable.

Imu dodged Luffy so that he could counter attack. There was no counter attack against Woki, Imu was full on Gold Roger style dodging, he wanted absolutely nothing to do with Woki for fear of getting one shot

 

[Juanpiz]

@RayanOO can you win the league title this year or will you spend a fortune in January to beat the mighty Monaco

monaco>p$g

 

[Sanjiwillbeaking]

The box contains a Void Century Rumble Ball that will transform Chopper in the Forest God

I WISH

 

[Crow]

Do you remember the Holy knight [Satchels Maffey] firing laser beams in God valley? I suspect she used to use pika pika no mi, and since Kizaru has it now it's quite probable she's dead

Just saw this

 

[Juanpiz]

Do you remember the Holy knight [Satchels Maffey] firing laser beams in God valley? I suspect she used to use pika pika no mi, and since Kizaru has it now it's quite probable she's dead

And ..kaido can pull of Shit Like This too

 

[Sanjiwillbeaking]

And ..kaido can pull of Shit Like This too

Can he?

 

[Juanpiz]

Can he?

Boro breath

 

[Wh1p]

I hope Oda actually elaborates on how Zoro is improving his haki usage, these brief spoilers make it seem like there is no elaboration on how or why Zoro has suddenly turned the tide, and what differentiates this version of his CoC from what he was using before (besides the usage now being conscious).

 

[Veku]

No but you’re saying he has no reason to be in awakening. He also doesn’t have any reason to use his fruit. So it’s a moot point, he’s already being unnecessary from the get-go. Oda is showing off his fruit and the very identical design that zoan awakenings have. That’s the purpose.

You have to explain, how and why beyond a show - of moment (for whatever reason Oda should do that) is it reasonable to believe that Killingham remains in a state, meant as power up - that puts a strain on the user, for entirity of the Elbaph Arc since his introduction.

No, I think you’re just hung up on trying to put a very clear cut visual design through layers of skepticism because you dislike the Knights of God.

Luffy has stamina issues, Lucci & Kaku displayed none of those.

Kidd/Law had stamina issues as a recently awakened fruit users, Katakuri seemingly had none of those.

the idea Killingham can’t be awakened because he should have the same draw backs as Luffy, to me, is a leap.

I don't even benefit from that.
Killingham is a confirmed bum, so if he would be awakened and still a bum, that would actually help me lol.

I mean… I don’t know the significance of the colors of the Hagoromo, Luffy could be the only character to ever have a white one we see. Considering we have very few examples of awakened zoans, I’m not going to make that verdict though.

it’s possible mythical zoans that are awakened have the white Hagoromo. Not saying it is but that’s one thing we can’t say until we get more verifiable zoans either way

Ultimately Oda hasn't fully elaborated on the concept of Zoan Awakening and on top we have examples of characters with White Hagomoros , that haven't been awakened at that time (G4 Luffy) or confirmed to be just a design choice (Yamato), so just saying the White Hagomoro itself isn't proof at all for Killingham to be awakened Tac, no bias at all here.

Besides that:
Shaka made a generalizing statement about the Awakening of a Zoan user usually overwhelming it's User, with that in mind, it makes sense you don't see Kaku, Lucci or any other awakened Zoan user running around 24/7 in that state:

And Killingham hasn't received any specific portrayal of a rare specimen that surpasses even Lucci in that regard, to pretend he mastered Awakening, that he can just use it 24/7 to flex.

It's the exact opposite really, Shanks remarked how CD's are usually bums, God Valley etablished HK hunt for innocent weaklings and Elbaph etablished they relie on Imu's powers for the most part.

Doub't we'll ever find out by Killingham himself, especially with Omen in play, but if it still turns Out Killingham has been awakened all along it's all fine.

 

[gz89]

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I hope Oda actually elaborates on how Zoro is improving his haki usage, these brief spoilers make it seem like there is no elaboration on how or why Zoro has suddenly turned the tide, and what differentiates this version of his CoC from what he was using before (besides the usage now being conscious).

Probably active usage. Zoro may not know how to actively use his CoC and can only use it now when he allows Enma to suck haki out of him.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

You have to explain, how and why beyond a show - of moment (for whatever reason Oda should do that) is it reasonable to believe that Killingham remains in a state, meant as power up - that puts a strain on the user, for entirity of the Elbaph Arc since his introduction.

Because it has only been shown to be a strain to new awakened characters. Luffy, Law & Kidd.

Katakuri, Kaku & Lucci do not have any visible stamina issues or statements.

Considering that the Knights of God have gotten 2x power ups better than awakening this arc, so it’s entirely reasonable to assume he starts with that or shows it off (as that’s what it appears) with higher power ups waiting.

Ultimately Oda hasn't fully elaborated on the concept of Zoan Awakening and on top we have examples of characters with White Hagomoros , that haven't been awakened at that time (G4 Luffy) or confirmed to be just a design choice (Yamato), so just saying the White Hagomoro itself isn't proof at all for Killingham to be awakened Tac, no bias at all here.

Well it’s a visual manga and his Hagoromo looks identical to awakenings. We have evidence Yamato isn’t, so we need that for Killingham to say he isn’t awakened. Oda draws him that way and we don’t have anything to suggest otherwise.

so far we’ve seen 3 types of these hagoramos too, Omen, Awakening & Yamato’s so the verdict right now is between a special case Oda verified in Vc (Yamato) or what were seen 3x times (awakening).