Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1193: "I'm still practicing"

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#82
Above that, they don't have ACoC and forever stuck below HKs
Nope, not true regarding Zoro > Admirals even IF his AdCoC would be above theirs (I still have high hopes for Fujitora in this department).

Reasoning being Zoro has advantages but so do the admirals.

Zoro can't:
Fly
Move at speed of light
Easily dodge AoE attacks (Fujitoras meteors)
Easily dodge multiple attacks (Kizarus laser shower)
Grow out new bones (Ryukogyus bone crushing abilities)
Heal up a pierced or sliced body (All admirals)

So just because the Admirals might, or might not, lack the one tool to beat the HKs it doesn't mean that Zoro automatically beats the Admirals easily. The Admirals are all far better fighters than the HK. There are of course exceptions as I think Green Bull is quite crap and Shamrock is likely OP but generally speaking it doesn't work that way. In order for Zoro to beat Admirals he would need to somehow force them to fight his fight. On the ground, close to mid distance. King really should only have stayed far away and destroyed Zoros foothold to win, spamming fire attacks from a distance.
 
#83
Zoro is a beast.
He didn't even care about the thorns while thinking back to Harald's flashback.
Just look at the fact that he didn't even put on his bandana.
Zoro will finish Elbaf at the same level Luffy was at when he defeated Kaido.
 
#84
Zoro can't:
Fly
Move at speed of light
Easily dodge AoE attacks (Fujitoras meteors)
Easily dodge multiple attacks (Kizarus laser shower)
Grow out new bones (Ryukogyus bone crushing abilities)
Heal up a pierced or sliced body (All admirals)

So just because the Admirals might, or might not, lack the one tool to beat the HKs it doesn't mean that Zoro automatically beats the Admirals easily. The Admirals are all far better fighters than the HK. There are of course exceptions as I think Green Bull is quite crap and Shamrock is likely OP but generally speaking it doesn't work that way. In order for Zoro to beat Admirals he would need to somehow force them to fight his fight. On the ground, close to mid distance. King really should only have stayed far away and destroyed Zoros foothold to win, spamming fire attacks from a distance.
Wow
After all this time you brought the lamest argument. These same human limitations are applicable to all non DF haki based fighters. The kind of thing you said about King fight, the same could be said about any other fight. Kaido should have stayed up in the sky and rained down fire and slashes and tornadoes etc. Kizaru should have stayed away and spammed lasers etc.
 
#85
Wow
After all this time you brought the lamest argument. These same human limitations are applicable to all non DF haki based fighters. The kind of thing you said about King fight, the same could be said about any other fight. Kaido should have stayed up in the sky and rained down fire and slashes and tornadoes etc. Kizaru should have stayed away and spammed lasers etc.
1) Yes, they should have.
2) They couldn't. Luffy is insanely fast, agile, can fly, warp reality, conjure lightning, throw lightning and God knows what else.

Kizaru didnt take WB on 1 vs 1, that is suicide. Look at the hits Akainu took. And I bet you everything Kizaru would have died or at least been out of commission for weeks if he took those hits that Akainu ate. Smart move is to fight WB from a distance, he is very similar to Zoro in terms of his movement and from what we know lack of flight.
 
#87
Seem to remember some of the mandem going on about needing to learn "Ryou" to be able to use Conqueror's Haki coating to justify Sanji not being able to acquire it and why Zoro was able to learn how to use it so quickly on Wano and then when it became hard to argue Sanji awakening it, we transitioned to how Zoro's going to be at a much higher level that Sanji with regards to CoC coz he awakened an arc earlier :usoprice:how y'all doing? :risitameh:

:HoldThisL:



Anyways, all of that agenda nonsense aside, route Oda's going with for Zoro is interesting 🤔
Curios why Oda’s putting so much emphasis on intentionality with regards to CoC so will be interesting to see how his application changes once he finally learns how to utilize it properly as opposed to spamming it unconsciously as it’s implied he has a lot of volume.
 
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#90
1) Yes, they should have.
2) They couldn't. Luffy is insanely fast, agile, can fly, warp reality, conjure lightning, throw lightning and God knows what else.

Kizaru didnt take WB on 1 vs 1, that is suicide. Look at the hits Akainu took. And I bet you everything Kizaru would have died or at least been out of commission for weeks if he took those hits that Akainu ate. Smart move is to fight WB from a distance, he is very similar to Zoro in terms of his movement and from what we know lack of flight.
And King didnt try to do this? Which of Zoros opponents didnt have some sort of hax?
 
#94
After the time skip, Zoro simply defeats his opponents without difficulty.
Either Zoro fights strong opponents like Kaidou or Imu—whom he has no way of beating—or he faces opponents who won't pose much of a challenge.

Zoro should face Shamrock; he would be an opponent worthy of his strength, whereas Sommers wouldn't even serve to warm up the fight.
 
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