Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1193: "I'm still practicing"

[Sir Yasheen]

How's he treated as a peer of Franky? He beat a stronger opponent with easier difficulty.

He beat an equal opponent at the same difficulty. Remember oda had who’s who’s and Sasaki to be rivals. And just recently in Elbaf those two have been paired together again.

 

[Sanjiwillbeaking]

Its the prelude for luffys new power up

WHAT power up tho?

 

[ZooOnZou]

He beat an equal opponent at the same difficulty. Remember oda had who’s who’s and Sasaki to be rivals. And just recently in Elbaf those two have been paired together again.

Do you have any proof they're equal? Wano Franky is as strong as Punk Hazard Franky who's weaker than Vergo. Franky lost his armor. Had the fight continued, Franky lost. Jinbei would beat Who's Who again if Who's Who got up again.

Rival doesn't mean equal strength. Bege and Luffy are rivals for example. Shanks and Buggy have been paired together

 

[ZooOnZou]

He beat an equal opponent at the same difficulty. Remember oda had who’s who’s and Sasaki to be rivals. And just recently in Elbaf those two have been paired together again.

Funny how you mentioned Sasaki is paired with Who's Who but you forgot Jack is paired with Perospero.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Do you have any proof they're equal? Wano Franky is as strong as Punk Hazard Franky who's weaker than Vergo. Franky lost his armor. Had the fight continued, Franky lost. Jinbei would beat Who's Who again if Who's Who got up again.

Rival doesn't mean equal strength. Bege and Luffy are rivals for example. Shanks and Buggy have been paired together

Minor characters being treated in competition where they’re worried about falling behind the others is done intentionally by Oda to show relative power.

Franky only lost the armor to get a final hit on Sasaki. Sasaki was already one foot in the grave and was trying to force a draw, Franky blew him up instead and left that fight without a scratch.

Next arc when Franky and Jinbe get opponents, it’ll happen again

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Funny how you mentioned Sasaki is paired with Who's Who but you forgot Jack is paired with Perospero.

Because Pero was paired with critically wounded Jack who finished fighting an army of Sulong minks. Most of which were much stronger than Sulong carrot and Wanda who would’ve beaten Pero if not for Kaido covering the moon

 

[ZooOnZou]

Minor characters being treated in competition where they’re worried about falling behind the others is done intentionally by Oda to show relative power.

Franky only lost the armor to get a final hit on Sasaki. Sasaki was already one foot in the grave and was trying to force a draw, Franky blew him up instead and left that fight without a scratch.

Next arc when Franky and Jinbe get opponents, it’ll happen again

Shanks and Buggy are also treated in competition. I'm also asking do you think Wano Franky is stronger than Punk Hazard Franky who's way weaker than Vergo? Something you forgot to address.

The difference is if Sasaki got up again with 100% health, he'll beat Franky who lost his shogun armor while Jinbei will beat up 100% Who's Who again. Jinbe beat Who's Who much easier.

Because Pero was paired with critically wounded Jack who finished fighting an army of Sulong minks. Most of which were much stronger than Sulong carrot and Wanda who would’ve beaten Pero if not for Kaido covering the moon

So now you're talking about feat. Funny how you completely ignored the fact that feat wise, Wano Franky's as strong as Punk Hazard Franky who's weaker than Vergo who's way weaker than Jinbe but now somehow feats matter when it's about Perospero and Jack. This alone debunks the notion that Sasaki and Who's Who are equal.

Jack is better than Perospero offensively that's why he can beat 10 sulong minks. Where did you get that army number? Something you pull out of nowhere?

Perospero is better defensively that's why Jack with inferior defense got hit a lot by sulong Inu to the point he's on his last legs while Perospero with superior defense managed to hold off sulong Neko until the moon was covered.

Akainu easily blew WB face while Aokiji got matched by Ace who got 1 shot by Akainu. That doesn't mean Akainu is much stronger than Aokiji isn't it? Feat doesn't matter when put up against opponent with similar strength, both are portrayed equally strong.

 

[ZooOnZou]

Because Pero was paired with critically wounded Jack who finished fighting an army of Sulong minks. Most of which were much stronger than Sulong carrot and Wanda who would’ve beaten Pero if not for Kaido covering the moon

Btw Zoro has much better feats than Sanji in Wano from scarring Kaido to beating King but for some reasons you still put Zoro and Sanji in the same tier. Kind of a double standard isn't it?

Jack and Perospero being equal has more basis than Zoro and Sanji being equal

 

[Sanjiwillbeaking]

I think Luffy's next power up will be unlocking Joy Boys level of Haki.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Nah just a funny nickname for Jinbe because unironically race relations with the fishman was the gorosei biggest concern when Jinbe left the warlords.

Warlord tax and normal oda bounty gag. He did the same thing in DR with Usopps bounty

Yeah, Jinbe having been a Shichibukai is what got him over a bounty comparable to Franky's, but his reputation as a Shichibukai was maintained by his inability to get cornered by anyone less than a Yonko or Admiral. He's probably not one crumb stronger than he was at Marineford but that's enough

 

[centurion]

 

[StocksInMihawk]

9/11 for Mihawk haters

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yeah, Jinbe having been a Shichibukai is what got him over a bounty comparable to Franky's, but his reputation as a Shichibukai was maintained by his inability to get cornered by anyone less than a Yonko or Admiral. He's probably not one crumb stronger than he was at Marineford but that's enough

I don’t think Jinbe grew stronger since he and Ace fought to that draw which… not a great look

 

[Fn Lucci]

I don’t think Jinbe grew stronger since he and Ace fought to that draw which… not a great look

The necessity is arguable but I don't see One Piece as a series with a universally high ceiling for all characters. Hajrudin for one is older than Gaban and as hard as he really does try, we saw Luffy knock him out with Gear 2.

And yet he's also getting in Imu's face. Jinbe protected Loki from Imu's attack and that's very respectable. Not like anyone else can straight up beat this guy either

 

[Sanjiwillbeaking]

Anyone any idea what Usopps plan is?

 

[milluki]

zoro is finished... if you attack the king, you better not miss.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Will give to Sommers though, the man is hilarious
Not sure I quite like the characteristic ability of Gram being Fury though, feels a bit limited tbh. Plus it doesn't really fit Sommer's comical nature. I mean he was mad at Kiringham but then he just wasted that rage on a bloody branch. Woud've been more interesting to see him get more and more irritated by Kiringham being late as he fights Zoro instead. Maybe we get to see him angry constantly when something changes with Imu that displeases him (i.e. his master overstrainning himself for example)

Things aren't looking so hot for him but onus is on him to up the ante coz he's gonna get merked otherwise.
He's already seen the pearly gates once already in this fight

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Will give to Sommers though, the man is hilarious
Not sure I quite like the characteristic ability of Gram being Fury though, feels a bit limited tbh. Plus it doesn't really fit Sommer's comical character. I mean he was mad at Kiringham but then he just wasted that rage on a boody branch. Woud've been more interesting to see him get more and more irritated by Kiringham being late as a fights Zoro instead. Maybe we get to see him angry constantly when something changes with Imu that displeases him (i.e. his master overstrainning himself for example)

Things aren't looking so hot for him but onus is on him not to up the ante coz he's gonna get merked otherwise.
He's already seen the pearly gates once already in this fight

Sommers creating an invisible trap of thorns = Great Move

Sommers then turning the thorns visible so Zoro could see them = god damn this guys dumb

 

[donidk]

Adam tree : come nika joy boy here take fruit as treat

Didn’t the giants give him some crazy type of power food on egghead ?

 

[JEK892]

Will give to Sommers though, the man is hilarious
Not sure I quite like the characteristic ability of Gram being Fury though, feels a bit limited tbh. Plus it doesn't really fit Sommer's comical character. I mean he was mad at Kiringham but then he just wasted that rage on a boody branch. Woud've been more interesting to see him get more and more irritated by Kiringham being late as a fights Zoro instead. Maybe we get to see him angry constantly when something changes with Imu that displeases him (i.e. his master overstrainning himself for example)

Things aren't looking so hot for him but onus is on him not to up the ante coz he's gonna get merked otherwise.
He's already seen the pearly gates once already in this fight

I mean, Sommers is an emotional guy in general. Lol. Having a weapon tied to his emotions should be fine. I can easily see him getting angrier and more frustrated as time passes here. .. And yeah, this whole thing was very on brand for him. He's a huge sadist, and he likes toying with his victims. We didn't get to see HOW it happened, but he clearly thought he had trapped Zoro (and did some damage? Zoro lost his mask, and had blood on his face at least), so as per his usual MO he decided to start fucking with him rather than fighting seriously anymore. 😅

Brother was treating Zoro like he did to Robin. Did NOT work out for him. Lmao.Though he'll probably pull his shit together next time we see him. Its not the first time we've seen him seemingly freaked out, and then almost immediately switch up and start being Sommers again. Like with Gaban, or when he got punched by Luffy.......and then started talking shit 0.5 seconds later because he heard people talking about Nika (AS he was falling to the ground after getting absolutely obliterated).