Questions & Mysteries So KOH is not AdvCoC attack. Did King lose to CoA attack?

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#61
Where does it say letting out all his haki = flowing CoC into your sword which you call AdvCoC?
Where does it say leaking CoC causing fodders to faint = flowing CoC into your sword which you call AdvCoC?

If KoH is AdvCoC attack then in this chapter Zoro shouldn't be wondering how to use AdvCoC.
Are you retarded ?

Zoro says hes putting all his haki into his swords.

WE KNOW this includes coc because fodders are fainting

Which means zoro is putting coc into his swords too.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#62
I'm anti fanfiction retard. Maybe you're addicted to it.

Where does it say those haki include CoC? Why can't those haki only CoA?
Fodders fainted because Zoro leaked CoC unconsciously.
Show me a panel where fodders fainted when CoC is flowed into your attacks.

This chapters debunk KoH=AdvCoC. Zoro is not pouring all his haki into KoH in this chapter but Zoro's still wondering how to use AdvCoC.
Holy shit can you not fucking read ????

Moron

ZORO IS PUTTING ALL HIS HAKI INTO HIS SWORDS !!!
Is this too much for your pea brain to understand ???

If zoro is putting EVERYTHING into his swords

And WE KNOW hes using coc

It means coc is going into his swords too.
 
#64
Holy shit can you not fucking read ????

Moron

ZORO IS PUTTING ALL HIS HAKI INTO HIS SWORDS !!!
Is this too much for your pea brain to understand ???

If zoro is putting EVERYTHING into his swords

And WE KNOW hes using coc

It means coc is going into his swords too.
I'm asking again retard show me a panel where it says those haki include CoC too. This chapter debunks KoH=AdvCoC. If you want to be angry go complain to Oda for creating this chapter :endthis:
 
#66
KOH is ACoC it's just totally unconscious and therefore weak and uncontrolled. Zoro doesn't know that it's CoC, he just goes all out with his CoA and the CoC leaks out.

He knows he needs to use ACoC to beat Sommers and doesn't know how to consciously use or recognise CoC. KOH won't help him here as he doesn't know KOH is CoC, everytime he imbues with haki he thinks he's using CoA and the CoC ends up leaking.

What he's learning now is conscious usage of CoC and control. It's basically like SSJ which has a huge energy drain vs full power SSJ which is much stronger, much more efficient and has no energy drain.

And mastering this allows him to keep ascending.
 
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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#67
I'm asking again retard show me a panel where it says those haki include CoC too. This chapter debunks KoH=AdvCoC. If you want to be angry go complain to Oda for creating this chapter :endthis:
Fodders fainted because Zoro leaked CoC. Gaban already told Zoro that he leaked CoC unconsciously.
Again for the last time

ZORO IS PUTTING EVERYTHING INTO HIS SWORDS.

EVERYTHING

So if hes using coc even accidentally its going into his swords too.
 
#69
Again for the last time

ZORO IS PUTTING EVERYTHING INTO HIS SWORDS.

EVERYTHING

So if hes using coc even accidentally its going into his swords too.
Zoro never said he poured out all his haki.


The keyword here is keep exuding. That doesn't necessarily mean in this panel, Zoro is pouring all his haki. Character in One Piece would die if their haki tank is zero.

I can grant you that Zoro poured out ALL his haki then how come these fodders are getting up in this panel?


if the CoC is active on Zoro's sword, the fodders should be still unconscious due to the CoC emitted from Zoro's sword. All this shows is the fodders fainted because of Zoro's CoC burst not because of the CoC on Zoro's sword.:DeepThink:
 
#70
KOH is ACoC it's just totally unconscious and therefore weak and uncontrolled. Zoro doesn't know that it's CoC, he just goes all out with his CoA and the CoC leaks out.

He knows he needs to use ACoC to beat Sommers and doesn't know how to consciously use or recognise CoC. KOH won't help him here as he doesn't know KOH is CoC, everytime he imbues with haki he thinks he's using CoA and the CoC ends up leaking.

What he's learning now is conscious usage of CoC and control. It's basically like SSJ which has a huge energy drain vs full power SSJ which is much stronger, much more efficient and has no energy drain.

And mastering this allows him to keep ascending.
Your SSJ example perfectly explains it because by the end of the fight Zoro will most likely rip Through a stronger Attavk from Sommers woth his conscious ACoC which KOH couldn't do. Which means him being aware and it not leaking means he got way stronger.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#71
Zoro never said he poured out all his haki.


The keyword here is keep exuding. That doesn't necessarily mean in this panel, Zoro is pouring all his haki. Character in One Piece would die if their haki tank is zero.

I can grant you that Zoro poured out ALL his haki then how come these fodders are getting up in this panel?


if the CoC is active on Zoro's sword, the fodders should be still unconscious due to the CoC emitted from Zoro's sword. All this shows is the fodders fainted because of Zoro's CoC burst not because of the CoC on Zoro's sword.:DeepThink:
1. Zoro literally says mid fight its killing him

2. Zoro only uses coc when he uses king of hell
And no fodders were around then.
 
#72
Using CoC without knowing, not AdCoC.. That's why Zoro's asking himself.. You can't use AdCoC uncionciously without any concept of CoC Control, since it's an application of Haki..
Yet again your being blinded by your agenda... using it unconsciously has happened many times over in the series.. take Luffy first uses of CoC .. without knowing of any haki at all he did them..

Alabasta Zoro also says hi.. flowing your haki into objects is not a basic tech too..

What Zoro is going through now is exactly the same thing in his fight against King.. at that moment Zoro just said i will use everything i have .. that resulted in him coating CoC in his swords. Hence why the lightning on his swords happened after the fodders passed out.

so yea unconsciously using haki/advanced is not new here.
 
#75
He's learning to use it consciously here.

Right now it only leaks in unconsciously when he's tapping into the state, he was in when feeding Enma his haki.

Will the conscious use be stronger than KoH p4p? I doubt it and that's probably where most people have their fair share of problems with, when trying to grasp what's up.
Because a PU most of the time makes someone flat out stronger.

Here it's more of a heightened baseline, stamina saving PU.
In a real prolonged top tier fight like Kaido vs Luffy f.e. clashes happened 50+ times. Zoro could not allow himself to burn out there, which would happen, when an actual top tier can handle KoH, similar to the Gram Sommers scene.
Imo it wasn't an obvious problem yet, because he could hang with Lucci in "base" for most of the fight. A luxury he does not have against Mihawk or anyone else for that matter.
 
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