Chapter Discussion Why has most of Zoro Major PU been Haki related since he talked to Mihawk?

#21
Mihawk admitted Old WB > Mihawk, dumbass.

Mihawk Haki and WB Haki is far apart, dumbass.

Keep crying and keep editing your posts ZKK dumbass. :milaugh:
Show me Mihawk saying I am weaker than WB and stop trying to run from the main point cause it bodies anything you say. If Mihawk and Shanks fight. They are allowed to use everything in the arsenal to determine who the stronger Swordsman. No matter how many times you try to deflect to something else or talk about WB and joyboy. This don't change you said in a sword fight they have to use everything to determine who stronger.
 
#22
Show me Mihawk saying I am weaker than WB .
Literally he wanted to see the "power difference" :milaugh:



"the true distance", exact same thing Zolo said about Mihawk;



You got bodied again, but we know you always run away as you run away many times against me before, so whenever you read a Zolo chapter you think you can argue against me. :milaugh: Don't waste people's time as I told LA00, you clowns always run away.

If Mihawk and Shanks fight. They are allowed to use everything in the arsenal to determine who the stronger Swordsman.
That determines who is stronger overall, not stronger swordsman ZKKclown. Alber and Zolo conversation proves this.

No matter how many times you try to deflect to something else or talk about WB and joyboy. This don't change you said in a sword fight they have to use everything to determine who stronger.
Make the rankings then.

Mihawk wasn't even more powerful than Kaido.



WB > Kaido > Mihawk.

Of course there is a big Haki difference between WSM WB and WGS Mihawk.

WGS Mihawk literally being best swordsman but still being canonically weaker than WSM WB mean one thing; Mihawk's Haki wasn't even close to WB that's why WB is WSM over him.

If Mihawk's was close to WB, with WGS difference, WB wouldn't be called WSM over Mihawk since Mihawk would have WGS advantage, but even with WGS advantage, that WGS difference wasn't enough to close to big Haki gap with WSM WB.
 
#23
Since he asked Mihawk to teach him the Way of the Sword. All Zoro major PU has been Haki related. He learned Haki from Mihawk during his training. He learned to master Enma through haki. Now he is getting ACoC mastery. If Swordmanship is what matters most why isn't Oda concentrating on making Zoro footwork/wrist control or something. How are these fights helping him with Mihawk?
Because he needs to be a haki master to be the WSS.
He will use everything he got to beat Mihawk and it will not be enough, he will still need a haki power up in the end.
 
#24
Since he asked Mihawk to teach him the Way of the Sword. All Zoro major PU has been Haki related. He learned Haki from Mihawk during his training. He learned to master Enma through haki. Now he is getting ACoC mastery. If Swordmanship is what matters most why isn't Oda concentrating on making Zoro footwork/wrist control or something. How are these fights helping him with Mihawk?
obviously because Mihawk doesn't know Haki. Only Skills.

Next question.

:endthis:
 
#26
Literally he wanted to see the "power difference" :milaugh:



"the true distance", exact same thing Zolo said about Mihawk;



You got bodied again, but we know you always run away as you run away many times against me before, so whenever you read a Zolo chapter you think you can argue against me. :milaugh: Don't waste people's time as I told LA00, you clowns always run away.


That determines who is stronger overall, not stronger swordsman ZKKclown. Alber and Zolo conversation proves this.


Make the rankings then.

Mihawk wasn't even more powerful than Kaido.



WB > Kaido > Mihawk.

Of course there is a big Haki difference between WSM WB and WGS Mihawk.

WGS Mihawk literally being best swordsman but still being canonically weaker than WSM WB mean one thing; Mihawk's Haki wasn't even close to WB that's why WB is WSM over him.

If Mihawk's was close to WB, with WGS difference, WB wouldn't be called WSM over Mihawk since Mihawk would have WGS advantage, but even with WGS advantage, that WGS difference wasn't enough to close to big Haki gap with WSM WB.
I don't Mihawk saying he weaker than WB. Maybe the panel is in 2 piece.

2. So now your changing your stance again huh? So If two swordsman fight and use everything it won't determine who the stronger Swordsman is. So if Mihawk and Zoro fight with everything that means Zoro won't be the stronger Swordsman?
 
#27
I don't Mihawk saying he weaker than WB. Maybe the panel is in 2 piece.
1. Literally the same phrase:



"distance"

2. So now your changing your stance again huh? So If two swordsman fight and use everything it won't determine who the stronger Swordsman is. So if Mihawk and Zoro fight with everything that means Zoro won't be the stronger Swordsman?
My stance never changes ZKKrunner, you must be mistaken when you run away from me. I showed the exact quote you said 88 level Haki is needed to beat WGS Mihawk, now if you want to talk about what I said before, show me the exact quote, don't bullshit from your ZKK runner butt.

3. where is the 3rd answer? you gonna run away?

I said;

"Of course there is a big Haki difference between WSM WB and WGS Mihawk.

WGS Mihawk literally being best swordsman but still being canonically weaker than WSM WB mean one thing; Mihawk's Haki wasn't even close to WB that's why WB is WSM over him.

If Mihawk's was close to WB, with WGS difference, WB wouldn't be called WSM over Mihawk since Mihawk would have WGS advantage, but even with WGS advantage, that WGS difference wasn't enough to close to big Haki gap with WSM WB."


Answer this ZKK runner.
 
#31
So you didnt say wss is skill only not haki ?
I said; you can't quantify how much Haki is needed, that's why I argued with another ZKK runner from this thread and he finally admitted 88 level only (out of JoyBoy's 100 level Haki) would be enough to beat Mihawk. :milaugh:

One thing is certain, WGS mean you won't have the best Haki, if you have the best Haki while being WGS that would easily make that person WSM level.

If you have little bit Anti-ZKK IQ, you could see how stupid this Haki discussion for WGS title.

WGS literally mean the guy's Haki wasn't strong enough to be WSM level, so they give him skill title WGS.

Imagine having WGS advantage, still being weaker since they declare WB as WSM. If Mihawk's Haki was remotely close to WB's Haki, WB wouldn't be called WSM over Mihawk.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#32
I said; you can't quantify how much Haki is needed, that's why I argued with another ZKK runner from this thread and he finally admitted 88 level only (out of JoyBoy's 100 level Haki) would be enough to beat Mihawk. :milaugh:

One thing is certain, WGS mean you won't have the best Haki, if you have the best Haki while being WGS that would easily make that person WSM level.

If you have little bit Anti-ZKK IQ, you could see how stupid this Haki discussion for WGS title.

WGS literally mean the guy's Haki wasn't strong enough to be WSM level, so they give him skill title WGS.

Imagine having WGS advantage, still being weaker since they declare WB as WSM. If Mihawk's Haki was remotely close to WB's Haki, WB wouldn't be called WSM over Mihawk.
No you said wss doesnt need haki
Got destroyed now are coping

If its a skill title then u dont need haki right lmfaoooo
 
#33
No you said wss doesnt need haki
Got destroyed now are coping

If its a skill title then u dont need haki right lmfaoooo
ZKKrunner is crying and running again. :milaugh: I said show me the exact quote then before you run away. You couldn't.

Are you gonna answer this or you gonna run again?

"One thing is certain, WGS mean you won't have the best Haki, if you have the best Haki while being WGS that would easily make that person WSM level.

If you have little bit Anti-ZKK IQ, you could see how stupid this Haki discussion for WGS title.

WGS literally mean the guy's Haki wasn't strong enough to be WSM level, so they give him skill title WGS.

Imagine having WGS advantage, still being weaker since they declare WB as WSM. If Mihawk's Haki was remotely close to WB's Haki, WB wouldn't be called WSM over Mihawk. "


Keep running.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#35
ZKKrunner is crying and running again. :milaugh: I said show me the exact quote then before you run away. You couldn't.

Are you gonna answer this or you gonna run again?

"One thing is certain, WGS mean you won't have the best Haki, if you have the best Haki while being WGS that would easily make that person WSM level.

If you have little bit Anti-ZKK IQ, you could see how stupid this Haki discussion for WGS title.

WGS literally mean the guy's Haki wasn't strong enough to be WSM level, so they give him skill title WGS.

Imagine having WGS advantage, still being weaker since they declare WB as WSM. If Mihawk's Haki was remotely close to WB's Haki, WB wouldn't be called WSM over Mihawk. "

Keep running.
Why do i need to answer your delusion ???

You for years said it was a skill title nothing to do with haki

Now youve been slapped up

Youre trying to put a cap on how much haki is involved
 
#36
It’s genuinely insane how much the very root of the argument gets twisted and distorted to the point where the entire discussion ends up being meaningless.

"Sword skill" here is not just or even mainly about how well you swing a sword or whatever.
The same kanji used for Shanks/Mihawk was also used by Kaido as a benchmark for AP when comparing Oden to the scabbards.
So “sword skills” can be used to measure the power of sword attacks and that obviously includes Haki since Haki directly enhances your swordsmanship.

Even without all that if you actually read the manga and follow Zoro you can see that most of his major fights are basically about pushing his AP higher and higher. Especially post-ts.

Even at Marineford Mihawk’s biggest highlights were cutting a massive iceberg which as Brook said back in Thriller Bark shows absurd physical strength and having his attack perceived as the “most powerful sword strike".

That doesn’t mean "traditional sword skills” have no place here but they’re definitely not the main focus or the deciding factor when it comes to WSS.
 
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#37
1. Literally the same phrase:



"distance"


My stance never changes ZKKrunner, you must be mistaken when you run away from me. I showed the exact quote you said 88 level Haki is needed to beat WGS Mihawk, now if you want to talk about what I said before, show me the exact quote, don't bullshit from your ZKK runner butt.

3. where is the 3rd answer? you gonna run away?

I said;

"Of course there is a big Haki difference between WSM WB and WGS Mihawk.

WGS Mihawk literally being best swordsman but still being canonically weaker than WSM WB mean one thing; Mihawk's Haki wasn't even close to WB that's why WB is WSM over him.

If Mihawk's was close to WB, with WGS difference, WB wouldn't be called WSM over Mihawk since Mihawk would have WGS advantage, but even with WGS advantage, that WGS difference wasn't enough to close to big Haki gap with WSM WB."

Answer this ZKK runner.
1. Literally doesn't say anything about being weaker.
2. Yes 88 which is stronger than Shanks 87 Haki 😁

3. Here you admit Haki and other things is included


4. So now your swordman fight includes haki which determine the stronger Swordsman. Now you saying it doesn't?
 
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