Chapter Discussion Time to accept it for what it is: Enma forced out Zoro's conqueror haki and sped up his growth
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Xebec is the youngest ACoC user without having a mentor or captain who knew ACoC previously. Crazy Xebec IQ upscale
And depending on when Mihawk learned ACoC. That's upscale on him too if he had no master who knew ACoC prior
Most ACoC users are a bunch of nepotists. They have people who taught them haki beforehand or captains who already knew it. Only Xebec, Roger, and potentially Mihawk learned ACoC on their own before they turned mid-30s. When you consider a veteran like Chinjao who had CoA strong enough that even Garp chujo trained his CoA to beat it, yet Chinjao never had ACoC
How do you know it didn't affect his CoC for 30 years? If Enma was sucking up Oden's haki then it's likely it also took out his CoC when Oden let it go free reign too
Oden never fought a stronger opponent until WB came along, and their first clash was reminiscent of CoC clash
Oden only became aware of ACoC during his journey with Roger crew which is full of veteran ACoC users
And depending on when Mihawk learned ACoC. That's upscale on him too if he had no master who knew ACoC prior
Most ACoC users are a bunch of nepotists. They have people who taught them haki beforehand or captains who already knew it. Only Xebec, Roger, and potentially Mihawk learned ACoC on their own before they turned mid-30s. When you consider a veteran like Chinjao who had CoA strong enough that even Garp chujo trained his CoA to beat it, yet Chinjao never had ACoC
How do you know it didn't affect his CoC for 30 years? If Enma was sucking up Oden's haki then it's likely it also took out his CoC when Oden let it go free reign too
Oden never fought a stronger opponent until WB came along, and their first clash was reminiscent of CoC clash
Oden only became aware of ACoC during his journey with Roger crew which is full of veteran ACoC users
Oden saw ACoA emission AKA barrier haki. That wasn't ACoC specifically he was shocked about. And he was more amazed at the strength of their haki than anything else
Oden also didn't know how to coat ACoC in general until he went on board with Roger
What lie am I talking about? That Enma didn't force out Zoro's CoC and coated his swords with it? This is a confirmed fact at this point
Oden also didn't know how to coat ACoC in general until he went on board with Roger
What lie am I talking about? That Enma didn't force out Zoro's CoC and coated his swords with it? This is a confirmed fact at this point
You don’t ask “what is that” when being amazed by something you know
oden didn’t know what they were even doing
You’re literally arguing that Enma does this automatically For Zoro… But you admit it didn’t do this for Oden, FOR 30 YEARS?
Again you keep lying as if you can find a single panel in the manga that proves that Enma can affect CoC for either Oden or Zoro
oden didn’t know what they were even doing
You’re literally arguing that Enma does this automatically For Zoro… But you admit it didn’t do this for Oden, FOR 30 YEARS?
Again you keep lying as if you can find a single panel in the manga that proves that Enma can affect CoC for either Oden or Zoro
Hmm.. i am kinda ok with that but 1st you need to explain these @Ven437 :-
1- First Enma interaction only caused CoA to leak more than needed.
2- The second time the same situation when Zoro was training in the woods.
3- Every other situation Zoro was using Enma there was no indication of CoC.
---- When Zoro used Tatsumaki on Kaido he did cut him to save Luffy but there wasn't a big deal about it since i think its compared to what the scabbards did to Kaido.
4- Asura was the 1st time CoC was mentioned and in this scenario Zoro claimed "i put all my might into it".
5- Finally when Zoro was struggling with Enma and was thinking what to do. He again goes putting all he has to his swords which casued the CoC burst to knocking out the fodders.
So my understanding here is Enma is the reason Zoro had to use "everything" which resulted in CoC being used. And not that Enma forced it out of him.
1- First Enma interaction only caused CoA to leak more than needed.
2- The second time the same situation when Zoro was training in the woods.
3- Every other situation Zoro was using Enma there was no indication of CoC.
---- When Zoro used Tatsumaki on Kaido he did cut him to save Luffy but there wasn't a big deal about it since i think its compared to what the scabbards did to Kaido.
4- Asura was the 1st time CoC was mentioned and in this scenario Zoro claimed "i put all my might into it".
5- Finally when Zoro was struggling with Enma and was thinking what to do. He again goes putting all he has to his swords which casued the CoC burst to knocking out the fodders.
So my understanding here is Enma is the reason Zoro had to use "everything" which resulted in CoC being used. And not that Enma forced it out of him.