Chapter Discussion Time to accept it for what it is: Enma forced out Zoro's conqueror haki and sped up his growth

[ImmaIvanoM]

Oden was more inexperienced than Hyogoro in terms of advanced haki

What? I asked you why Hyogoro thinks the scabbards are the best samurai in Wano?

Is this supposed to be an answer to that question?

Oden wasn't aware of ACoA emission and the fact he never used it doesn't help your case.

What is this?

Is the above “Barrier haki” or is it AdvCoC?

Oden had no idea what Whitebeard and Roger were doing…. We’re Whitebeard and Roger doing “Barrier haki” or were they doing what Zoro is doing above?

 

[Ven437]

What? I asked you why Hyogoro thinks the scabbards are the best samurai in Wano?

Is this supposed to be an answer to that question?

You asked THIS:

If Hyogoro, who can already do the barriers is weaker than the scabbards before Oden even starts his journey with Whitebeard then what does that tell you?

in relation to barrier haki application

and I answered you in no unclear terms. You are implying erroneously that "stronger" = knowing more haki applications. All it tells me is Oden didn't know how to use emission barrier haki

What is this?

Is the above “Barrier haki” or is it AdvCoC?

Oden had no idea what Whitebeard and Roger were doing…. We’re Whitebeard and Roger doing “Barrier haki” or were they doing what Zoro is doing above?

Oden specifically questioned barrier haki. I already showed you Luffy explicitly saying it. You can try to argue all you want but fact is no-touch clash is due to ACoA, sky splitting is due to ACoC

What Zoro is doing above also looks like barrier haki. It could be him also releasing ACoC haki who tf knows. But it is irrelevant to the above and contradicts nothing to what I said. Zoro is in KoH mode when he pushes King away

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Oden specifically questioned barrier haki.

Oden doesnt say “Barrier haki” I have no idea why you think Oden was randomly so technically specific

anyway I’ve shown you that Zoro produces concussive force from his CoC without barrier haki so obviously Roger and Whitebeard can do it too

in relation to barrier haki application

and I answered you in no unclear terms. You are implying erroneously that "stronger" = knowing more haki applications. All it tells me is Oden didn't know how to use emission barrier haki

Except Hyogoro says that this “barrier haki” is the basis for ALL WANO samurai haki swordsmanship

it’s like the very basis of how Wano samurai use haki.

that’s why random no body fodder samurai like Zoro’s master in random EAST BLUE can do barrier haki… because Zoro’s master was from wano

are you saying that Oden and the scabbards don’t know a haki that is so common in Wano that Zoro’s master in east blue knows it?