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What difficulty will Zoro v. SSJ2 Sommers be?


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Interesting.. Definitely means something.. That something new would have been born, brought forward into existence from the destruction.. Imu at the end took what Saturn was saying seriously, that he would not let this happen.. I think that's completely unrelated to God Valley disappearing though..
It's probably the rises of new threats a.k.a the remnants of Rocks a.k.a the Yonko
 
All Admirals have AdCoC so we’re good. Besides, you don’t need AdCoC to defeat these bums:


Kind of like how you don’t even need Haki to defeat Kaido’s equal Big Mom, lol

Keep in mind Kaido can be one shot by Elizabello who has zero Haki at all. The same Elizabello is powerless in the face of Logia supremacy
None of the Admirals have ACoC or an Awakening.

The Holy Knights’ immortality is so damn confusing. One minute you cut them up and they regenerate, the next they don’t. Zoro sliced Super Sommers up multiple times and the dude just kept coming back every single time. You really do need ACoC if you want to put them down for good.

Nobody wants to spend the entire war holding onto some dude’s body part or literally sitting on his corpse just because they can’t permanently finish off a Holy Knight. 😂 That’s basically Kizaru and the Admirals.

“Yo Kizaru, go fight X.”

Kizaru: “Can’t. I gotta keep holding Super Sommers’ body or this mf is gonna come back again. 😂😂😂 I can’t even put this dude down for good.”
 

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None of the Admirals have ACoC or an Awakening.

The Holy Knights’ immortality is so damn confusing. One minute you cut them up and they regenerate, the next they don’t. Zoro sliced Super Sommers up multiple times and the dude just kept coming back every single time. You really do need ACoC if you want to put them down for good.

Nobody wants to spend the entire war holding onto some dude’s body part or literally sitting on his corpse just because they can’t permanently finish off a Holy Knight. 😂 That’s basically Kizaru and the Admirals.

“Yo Kizaru, go fight X.”

Kizaru: “Can’t. I gotta keep holding Super Sommers’ body or this mf is gonna come back again. 😂😂😂 I can’t even put this dude down for good.”
You don’t need to concern yourself with the final war seeing as how Crydo was defeated midseries by a hakiless rookie. Lol

Leave the final war to characters who are actually strong enough to participate, continue begging people to acknowledge the post timeskip Moriah. Lol
 
We don't know that yet.
In fact, that panel of Nika facing the God of War and his squirrel kinda looks to scale.



Granted, Oda and scale don't go well together, but most fans do think that Joyboy was either a buccaneer or a half giant, so Nika, who preceded him by who knows how much, might not have been a human either.
TBF, Luffy while in Gear 5 (Nika Form) can roughly seemingly turn into a super giant, so who´s to say that Nika User didn´t gigantified hhimself agains the GoW of Elbaph to be an "Even Fight"
 
TBF, Luffy while in Gear 5 (Nika Form) can roughly seemingly turn into a super giant, so who´s to say that Nika User didn´t gigantified hhimself agains the GoW of Elbaph to be an "Even Fight"
It's plausible, but given that we see multiple characters overpower or match giants despite not being nearly as tall as them (i.e Xebec and Harald), I'm not sure if Nika would really need to do that.
 
Zoro's final opponents path is gonna be
Shiryu --> Fujitora --> Natsujurou/Mihawk (interchangable)
The problem for me is how Oda is gonna justify Zoro (or even Sanji) fighting a Admiral and a Gorosei in two separate occassions, since the WG and the Marines kinda go hand in hand
Considering how weak the God´s Fodders are (Sommers is like Saturn rn ironically, he is jobbing HARD) I´ll just put mihawk alone for now but considering how warcury was actually competent & actually had insane toughness to the point even G5 Luffy couldn´t penetrate it. then maybe he could be comparable. Now, shiryu & fujitora should be interchangable as well.

The Moss Brute about to be chipped to death by Shiryu of the rain if he doesn´t use all of his 3 IQ together to beat what is essentially a fake swordsman with a fruit that Pre-timeskip Sanji defeated, and then made useless.
 
Sommers has been wholely dissapointing but proof was in the pudding tbf.
Thought Omen & the Ancient weapons were gonna be able to salvage the Holy Knights but doesn't seem like even that is enough.
Granted jury is still out on Kiringham but Sommers has been incredibly underwhelming and the fact that he still chooses to remain cocky and incompetent even though he's getting sliced up is wild to me. Not sure what Oda's tryna to do here with him to be honest he just comes across as an incredibliy incompetent villian irregardless of how cynical he is.

Also on this Zoro CoC ting, even though I see the loophole Oda's tryna take advantage of here it is yet another instance of this sickness that he has of him trying to eat his cake and have it hence why it feels so underwhelming for most. The least he could do imo is at least upgrade the way KOH looks to make a disctinction btw Zoro intentionally coating his CoC as opposed to Enma just going ham with it.
I just hope that this whole "intentionality" angle with CoC that Oda's been banging on about since Gaban in the Underworld actually leads to something tangible. Coz Gaban's advice wasn't directed to just the wings but also Luffy and Loki who are able to coat their attacks in CoC.

So hopefully this whole being able to coat your attacks in CoC ting is just a baseline or rather a foundation for whatever it is that Oda's potentially cooking up with CoC for the boys going forward.
 
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