Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1194 Spoilers Discussion

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Oda likely wants to show how weak the HK actually are. Shamrock is the only special case

god this manga's gone down the gutter man

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Thats actually not true since all Emma does is pull from his haki. It doesn't decide what haki zoro should used at all

That is true since Zoro has no way to call upon the power himself as such the only one that can pull it out is Enma. When Zoros using KoH he’s letting Enma take whatever it wants

 

[Sir Yasheen]

god this manga's gone down the gutter man

The CDs were never meant to be strong imo this ain’t a shocker

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

See, the thing is, hasn't Sommers already tagged Zoro in CQC? We see him react to, clash with and smack down King of Hell Zoro earlier in the fight, then when we cut back to the fight Sommers is hyper confident, and Zoro seems ro have taken damage and lost his face mask (while also getting "trapped" in the thorns). So he SHOULD be capable of tagging Zoro, its just that Oda (for some God forsaken reason) felt the need to kill any hype he got for that by having what is SEEMINGLY a weaker Zoro than the one Sommers was handling quite well immediately overwhelm him. Lol.

Rather than Omen Sommers being too weak to do ANYTHING to Zoro, it just feels like Oda is in too much of a rush to hype up his protagonists quickly without giving the villains time to really dominate and make the fight feel interesting when the protagonist inevitably turns the tables. Its also something I noticed he has been doing weirdly consistently with Celesiral Dragons. Perhaps his own personal bias for kicking the shit out of these scumbags is getting the better of him, so he doesn't let them win for too long. 😅

And I'm semi-serious about that. Remember in Egghead, rhat one volume cover where his initial drawing was of spider demon Saturn chasing down Bonney and Kuma, and then partway through the time lapse we see hum totally switch gears and make it much more wholesome?
https://x.com/Eiichiro_Staff/status/1803352349093585404

Thats what I am explaining now. This confirms that koh that zoro has been using he has zero control over his coC. Which means in those instances when zoro was using koh agaisnt summers were not advanced coC attacks. They could have been regular coC amplifying his armament haki swords but not advanced coC coates on the blades itself.

Hence why zoro is trying to learn how to consciously coat his blades with advanced coC

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

The CDs were never meant to be strong imo this ain’t a shocker

they definitely were
oda is just a hack

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

That is true since Zoro has no way to call upon the power himself as such the only one that can pull it out is Enma. When Zoros using KoH he’s letting Enma take whatever it wants

Yes but that's still not enma CONTROLLING IT.

if Emma was able to control it he would be in situation where he can't call upon since he can simply have Emma do it. But its not the case.

Which is why every time zoro has used koh has not been him always using advanced coC. Im some instances it was him using regular coC to probably Amp his armament haki coated blades. As a result he is trying to actively coat his blades in advanced coC.

 

[TheD.]

Cant be this dumb bro. Zoro fans aren't saying that actually. It's a fact that even though zoro has it he did not use advanced coC against kaido.

He used on king but not the entire fight. Infact this chapter confirms that koh with green flames does not always mean that advanced cC is being used. It's when the sword has green flames PLUS the black lighting surrounding it is thick does it then mean that advanced coC is being used

I’m the dumb one yet the guy I was replying to was saying zoro didn’t fight anyone with conquerors Haki and wasn’t told he had it despite me giving in story evidence that he was.

???wtf

 

[NikaInParis]

Elbaph feels bad because of too many breaks and reading weekly sucks

Wano is still worst than Elbaph

This is the worst excuse I keep seeing for weekly manga, and particularly One Piece.

It is literally a weekly series. Written and planned for weekly releases. Its whole reason for existing is to be read/consumed weekly.

Is it more enjoyable to read in bulk? Duh. But that's not how it's meant to be read. It's meant to be read the way it's released: weekly.

 

[TheD.]

It's a fact that even though zoro has it he did not use advanced coC against kaido.

This is a very idiotic take .


Zoros previous attacks weren’t even able to cut kaido, until he used ashura which is a acoc attack and the only way he was able to cut hybrid kaido, kaido realized he was using it because of this.


If zoro wasn’t using acoc to cut hybrid kaido then why did he say he used all he had and why didn’t his previous attacks get it done???

 

[Juanpiz]

Haki is explained horrid. Especially when oda started adding lightning to regular armament haki.

So the only differentiating factor is the thickness or size of said lightning. Its extremely dumb but surprisingly accurate

Also These clouds some df guys have around them

 

[Sir Yasheen]

they definitely were
oda is just a hack

They weren’t. Doffy explained it well, they’re kids who’ve never known war. There’s no reason to assume they were ever going to be strong. Especially after the gorosei showings on egghead

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

That is true since Zoro has no way to call upon the power himself as such the only one that can pull it out is Enma. When Zoros using KoH he’s letting Enma take whatever it wants

KoH is literally the anime troping of powering up to 100% and having a hard timelimit, idk how people missed this in 1035

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

they definitely were
oda is just a hack

I’ll NEVER forgive Oda

 

[TheD.]

Though your point was still way off

No it was not

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

This is a very idiotic take .


Zoros previous attacks weren’t even able to cut kaido, until he used ashura which is a acoc attack and the only way he was able to cut hybrid kaido, kaido realized he was using it because of this.


If zoro wasn’t using acoc to cut hybrid kaido then why did he say he used all he had and why didn’t his previous attacks get it done???

Dumb response. How is it idiotic when the moment luffy used advanced coC against kaido, kaido himself stated that only a chosen few can even do that. Why would kaido be shocked at luffy using advanced coc if zoro in the same chapter used advanced coc against him before luffy?

Read people read. Having and using coc to amp your armament haki temporarily is different from coating your actual attacks in coC to fight (which is what is known as advanced coC).

Zoro in that moment against kaido never used ADVANCED COC.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Also These clouds some df guys have around them

Don't get me started on that. Based on this Yamamoto is definitely supposed to be an awakened zoan user

 

[TheD.]

they definitely were
oda is just a hack

Nah.

Cds have always been portrayed as weak cowards who have egos due to being cruel to the weak and enslaved.


even during egghead the gorosei looked like giant punching bags and even shanks considered holy knights as bums.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

No it was not

Oh shit. You right. Crap I ended responding to the wrong person. My apologies. Just reread your point and you were 100 percent correct in your response

 

[Juanpiz]

Nah.

Cds have always been portrayed as weak cowards who have egos due to being cruel to the weak and enslaved.


even during egghead the gorosei looked like giant punching bags and even shanks considered holy knights as bums.

Shanks No. 2 had to aurafarm by attacking a defenseless guy

 

[TheD.]

Dumb response. How is it idiotic when the moment luffy used advanced coC against kaido, kaido himself stated that only a chosen few can even do that. Why would kaido be shocked at luffy using advanced coc if zoro in the same chapter used advanced coc against him?

Read people read. Having and using coc to amp your armament haki temporarily is different from coating your actual attacks in coC to fight (which is what is known as advanced coC).

Zoro in that moment against kaido never used ADVANCED COC.

Enma was pulling out Zoros acoc.

Zoro couldn’t do it willingly until now because he’s now able to control his acoc without Enma pulling it out for him at times.


also please explain if zoro wasn’t using acoc to scar kaido how tf weren’t his previous attacks able to do the same?